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Current Films that will be Classics

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They will be Blood and The Tree of Life are my choices for the movies of the last ten years that are most likely to survive.  I think that in time A Christmas Story and The Shawshank Redemption will be viewed the way From Here to Eternity and The Ten Commandments:  popular movies but not really considered the best of their time.

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They will be Blood and The Tree of Life are my choices for the movies of the last ten years that are most likely to survive.  I think that in time A Christmas Story and The Shawshank Redemption will be viewed the way From Here to Eternity and The Ten Commandments:  popular movies but not really considered the best of their time.

Don't know if I mentioned Tree of Life up above, but it is a masterful film that will be fondly remembered by film scholars everywhere.

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I would agree that judging the movies from this decade is a tad foolhardy, as these are too recent and mentally, it is difficult to predict which ones will end up being perceived as "classics." That being said, I would say that select films from the 1980s and 1990s have become "cult classics" among many, not to mention among millennials. E.g. The Breakfast Club (& every single other John Hughes teen flick). 

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On 11/15/2017 at 7:06 PM, skimpole said:

They will be Blood and The Tree of Life are my choices for the movies of the last ten years that are most likely to survive.  I think that in time A Christmas Story and The Shawshank Redemption will be viewed the way From Here to Eternity and The Ten Commandments:  popular movies but not really considered the best of their time.

As I recall, Shawshank grossed about $50 million and was a multiple Oscar nominee, including a Best Picture nod, so it certainly had a respectable theatrical run, but it REALLY had one of the most amazing afterlives in film history in terms of TV airings and DVD sales/rentals. Can't tell you how many men I've heard say if they stumble across it on TV, they stick with it until it's over. For men, it seems to be like The Godfather in that regard. I don't now how much women care about it. I'm not even sure how great I think it is (I do love the ending), but it is highly re-watchable: heck, I've probably seen it 10 times over the years.

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And much to the chagrin of several people in here you gotta know that FORREST GUMP is likely to be considered a "classic" in coming years.  

APOLLO 13 will likely make the cut

But MY hope is that both SHINE and Will Smith's THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS get included.

Look at the list of those already considered "classics" and you'll notice many have that "feel good" and happy ending vibe to 'em.

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On 11/17/2017 at 6:06 AM, Sepiatone said:

 

 

APOLLO 13 will likely make the cut

But MY hope is that both SHINE and Will Smith's THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS get included.

Look at the list of those already considered "classics" and you'll notice many have that "feel good" and happy ending vibe to 'em.

Sepiatone

(1) I strongly suspect that Apollo 13 will be viewed as little more than a competent blockbuster, and it will never get out of the shadow of The Right Stuff.

(2) I must have missed the happy ending vibe of Citizen Kane or Vertigo.

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41 minutes ago, skimpole said:

(1) I strongly suspect that Apollo 13 will be viewed as little more than a competent blockbuster, and it will never get out of the shadow of The Right Stuff.

Yes, Apollo 13 didn't get much cultural exposure apart from its Oscar fast-tracking in the 90's for having Ron Howard and Tom Hanks in it, and everyone being so obnoxious about trying to make "Houston..." jokes.  It was basically seen as "One MORE 90's Hanks classic", and as such, can't escape Forrest Gump's bigger shadow.

The Right Stuff already escaped Terms of Endearment's Oscar shadow as an official 80's Epic, and it's got the appeal of what immortal 3-hr. roadshow epics are made.  (As in, why we still watch Lawrence of Arabia, but not A Passage to India.)

On 11/17/2017 at 8:06 AM, Sepiatone said:

But MY hope is that both SHINE and Will Smith's THE PURSUIT OF HAPPYNESS get included.

Happyness?...Oh, good lord, no.  :blink: Seven Pounds threw the last shovelful of earth on Will Smith's attempt (every other film, between action blockbusters) to be a soulful, messianic serious character punishing himself for the social street-redemption of mankind, and everything else he's done since then to push Jaden's career has buried his own even further.  Will's lucky if the first Men in Black remains the 90's classic it is.

Shine, however, came out the same Oscar year as The English Patient, and is forever linked with the birth of the "Miramax bribe" Oscar Monster (even though it was a New Line release)--Which Mr. Weinstein has now since dragged down with him in history, and not that anyone was sorry to see it go.    It was also our first exposure to Geoffrey Rush, and Rush has had no shortage of better films since to be permanently associated with--Even the original Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl will be remembered longer than the Babbling Pianist.

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Every movie will have its admirers and detractors.....just as many people hate Forrest Gump (as I do) as those who love it....same with Titanic (which I love).

One's person classic will be another person's piece of garbage and vice versa.

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I mention "Happynes" Eric because it's the better example of Smith's movies that proves he's more than the "mugging" and wisecracking action character that sadly too many like him for.  Denzel Washington too, suffered this fate, as critics and some other movie buffs hailed his outstanding performance in TRAINING DAY.  But because his character in that one was generally unlikable, many long time African-American fans didn't like it.  He wasn't THEIR Denzel, the guy who always did good, triumphed over bad and was heroic.  And That Smith portrayed an actual individual and the story was based on fact made the movie and the individual's story even more compelling.  And I thought Smith did a masterful job on it.

As for SHINE, if you ever saw and heard the actual DAVID  HELFGOTT (which was hard NOT to at the time) you'd see how precise Rush's characterization was and WHY it was "Oscar-worthy".  And why I think the story too, also deftly crafted, makes this film a "classic".

BTW:  Many of the films TCM shows and promotes as "classics" have been long forgotten by most people.  That people remember a movie or are more familiar with it doesn't necessarily  make it a "classic".

SKIMPOLE:  Although Apollo 13 will be in THE RIGHT STUFF's shadow doesn't mean it's NOT deserving of "classic" designation.  

And I NEVER claimed that ALL "classic" films have that "feel good" and happy ending vibe.  Had you any reading comprehension you'd have noticed I stated "many" do.  Remember....

The FIRST rule in being a "smart-azz"  is in being smart to begin with.   ;)

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14 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:

 Denzel Washington too, suffered this fate, as critics and some other movie buffs hailed his outstanding performance in TRAINING DAY.  But because his character in that one was generally unlikable, many long time African-American fans didn't like it.  He wasn't THEIR Denzel, the guy who always did good, triumphed over bad and was heroic.  

Oh, I LOVED Denzel in Training Day, precisely because it was a departure from his good guy roles. He's great in just about everything he does, but he proved he could be downright frightening when he wanted to be as Alonso Harris.

There are truly good and truly evil people of every race and gender, it's dishonest to try and pretend otherwise.

 

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I too, thought Denzel's performance in that movie was great.  And I read somewhere that he claimed he wanted to do it because he was tired of always playing the "good guy" roles.  He felt he was getting stale and typecast.

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