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Kristin Anderson

Allegation: While she was at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s, Trump slid his fingers under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear.

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Kelly Stedman, a friend. She said she was told about the incident at a women’s brunch a few days later. The women found themselves “laughing at how pathetic it was” on Trump’s part.
Brad Trent, a New York photographer. He says he heard the story from Anderson at a dinner in 2007. “It was just girls saying stories about how they got hit on by creepy old guys,” Trent said of the conversation around the table.

Response: The Trump campaign, in an emailed statement, said Anderson had fabricated the story: “Mr. Trump strongly denies this phony allegation by someone looking to get some free publicity. It is totally ridiculous.”

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4 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

Kristin Anderson

Allegation: While she was at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s, Trump slid his fingers under her miniskirt, moved up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear.

Corroborators: 
Kelly Stedman, a friend. She said she was told about the incident at a women’s brunch a few days later. The women found themselves “laughing at how pathetic it was” on Trump’s part.
Brad Trent, a New York photographer. He says he heard the story from Anderson at a dinner in 2007. “It was just girls saying stories about how they got hit on by creepy old guys,” Trent said of the conversation around the table.

Response: The Trump campaign, in an emailed statement, said Anderson had fabricated the story: “Mr. Trump strongly denies this phony allegation by someone looking to get some free publicity. It is totally ridiculous.”

 

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Summer Zervos

Allegation: Trump kissed Zervos on the lips when he met her in his New York office, which upset Zervos, who had been a contestant on Season 5 of Trump’s “The Apprentice.” She then met Trump at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 2007 for what she thought would be dinner; instead, she was escorted to his private bungalow. “I stood up and he came to me and started kissing me open-mouthed as he was pulling me toward him,” she said. “He then grabbed my shoulder and started kissing me again very aggressively and placed his hand on my breast.” He kept pursuing her, she said, at one point “thrusting his genitals” against her as he tried to kiss her. She said she again rebuffed him.

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Ann Russo, friend: She said that Zervos told her in 2010 that Trump had been “verbally, physically, and sexually aggressive with her” but that she had rebuffed his advances. “It was apparent she was conflicted with what Mr. Trump had done to her,” she said, adding that Zervos was torn between her admiration for Trump and Trump’s behavior.

(In her lawsuit against Trump, Zervos says that in 2007 she “spoke to a friend and her parents about [the initial kiss], all of whom concluded that this must just be the way that Mr. Trump greeted people.” She then told her father about the hotel incident, the lawsuit says.)

Response: Trump issued a statement by John Barry, a cousin of Zervos’s: “I think Summer wishes she could still be on reality TV, and in an effort to get that back she’s saying all of these negative things about Mr. Trump. That’s not how she talked about him before. I can only imagine that Summer’s actions today are nothing more than an attempt to regain the spotlight at Mr. Trump’s expense, and I don’t think it reflects well.”

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Mindy McGillivray

Allegation: McGillivray said she was groped by Trump at Mar-a-Lago in 2003, when she was 23, at a photo shoot during a concert by Ray Charles.  “All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned.’’ She told the Palm Beach Post she was certain it was not an accident. “This was a pretty good nudge. More of a grab,’’ she said. “It was pretty close to the center of my butt. I was startled. I jumped.’’

Corroborator:
Ken Davidoff, photographer: He vividly remembers when McGillivray pulled him aside moments after the alleged incident and told him, “Donald just grabbed my ****!’’ He did not witness the incident himself.

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Jill Harth 

Allegation: In the early 1990s, Jill Harth and her boyfriend at the time, George Houraney, worked with Trump on a beauty pageant in Atlantic City, and later accused Trump of inappropriate behavior toward Harth during their business dealings. She said that Trump pursued her and groped her; she alleged attempted rape in a sexual harassment suit that was withdrawn as a condition for settling a contract dispute. (We are including her account here because she gave interviews making these charges even after the lawsuit was withdrawn.) Trump had “his hands all over me,” Harth told the New York Times. “He was trying to kiss me. I was freaking out.”

Corroborator:
George Houraney, her boyfriend and later husband. The two are divorced but he confirmed her account in an interview with Nicholas Kristof: “Houraney and Harth haven’t spoken in years, but they offered almost identical accounts when I interviewed them separately, and their stories match Harth’s deposition and her sexual harassment lawsuit from the time.”

Response: Trump said it was Harth who had pursued him, and his office shared email messages in which Harth thanked Trump for helping her personally and professionally. The campaign said she was a “pawn” in a lawsuit created by her ex-husband.

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Jessica Leeds

Allegation: Trump attacked her while seated next to her on an airline flight. More than three decades ago, when she was a traveling business executive at a paper company, Leeds told the New York Times in 2016, she sat beside Trump in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York. They had never met before. About 45 minutes after takeoff, Trump lifted the armrest and began to touch her. Trump grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt. “He was like an octopus,” Leeds said. “His hands were everywhere.” She fled to the back of the plane. “It was an assault,” she said.

Corroborator: Leeds told the story to at least four people close to her, who also spoke with the New York Times. But most appear to have heard about it more recently. Linda Ross, a neighbor and friend, heard about it six months before Leeds went public, for instance.

Reaction: The Trump campaign offered the perspective of a British man who claimed to have sat near the two on the plane and three decades later remembered the incident in detail. “She was the one being flirtatious,” he said.

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Have any of these women filed a civil lawsuit against Trump (either after the event occurred or years later)?  There are many lawyers that would take their case for 'free'. 

For those that didn't were any settlements made?   (it appears NOT since they would have been non-disclosure settlements).

Trump has been sued for many things and plaintiffs have won settlements  (e.g. housing discrimination,  Trump U) so it isn't like winning against Trump is impossible.  

 

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57 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Have any of these women filed a civil lawsuit against Trump (either after the event occurred or years later)?  There are many lawyers that would take their case for 'free'. 

For those that didn't were any settlements made?   (it appears NOT since they would have been non-disclosure settlements).

Trump has been sued for many things and plaintiffs have won settlements  (e.g. housing discrimination,  Trump U) so it isn't like winning against Trump is impossible.  

 

You gotta wonder how much money they stand to lose if they file. They are probably livin' high on the hog.

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1 minute ago, cigarjoe said:

You gotta wonder how much money they stand to lose if they file. They are probably livin' high on the hog.

Say what?????       Why would they lose money if they filed a civil lawsuit since there are thousands of attorneys willing to take such a case for 'free'? 

If you're being a wiseguy,  please use an emoticon (or change your nickname to Robert Mitchum).    :lol:

 

  

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1 hour ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Say what?????       Why would they lose money if they filed a civil lawsuit since there are thousands of attorneys willing to take such a case for 'free'? 

If you're being a wiseguy,  please use an emoticon (or change your nickname to Robert Mitchum).    :lol:

 

  

No not money for lawyers......

Say Trump paid them off with a huge sum of money that's in an account that they have access to indefinitely but only if they honor the non disclosure statement that they signed. Once they file a civil lawsuit it's 

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and back to the rat race.

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4 minutes ago, cigarjoe said:

No not money for lawyers......

Say Trump paid them off with a huge sum of money that's in an account that they have access to indefinitely but only if they honor the non disclosure statement that they signed. Once they file a civil lawsuit it's back to the rat race.

I guess you didn't see that I already addressed that in my prior post:  "For those that didn't were any settlements made?   (it appears NOT since there would have been non-disclosure settlements).".

I.e. if there were non-disclosure settlement those women that have come out and had them,  would be sued by Trump and Trump would win (case law on violating non-disclosure agreements are well established).

So it is clear to me none of the women that have made public accusations against Trump had a non-disclosure settlement. 

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27 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

So it is clear to me none of the women that have made public accusations against Trump had a non-disclosure settlement. 

If that is the case, then speculate for us why none of the women have not sued then?

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12 minutes ago, cigarjoe said:

If that is the case, then speculate for us why none of the women have not sued then?

I really don't know why they haven't sued but I don't think it can be because they have non-disclosure agreements since they have clearly disclosed their accusations.   (but maybe Trump didn't wish to sue them for violating the non-disclosure because it would only reveal more details????).

One reason is that it is difficult to win these civil 'she said \ he said' cases  (and telling someone, even shortly have the alleged occurrence, is still 'she said that she said').    Of course the common reasons given  are due to shame and fear of retaliation.    

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3 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Have any of these women filed a civil lawsuit against Trump (either after the event occurred or years later)?  There are many lawyers that would take their case for 'free'. 

For those that didn't were any settlements made?   (it appears NOT since they would have been non-disclosure settlements).

Trump has been sued for many things and plaintiffs have won settlements  (e.g. housing discrimination,  Trump U) so it isn't like winning against Trump is impossible.  

 

Didn't you ask this very question a few weeks ago and I answered that yes, one woman is suing Trump right now for defamation of character.  This was due to the nasty things he said about her on the campaign trail.  Everything else has a statute of limitations I think.  Anyway she is suing him for a pittance which she is willing to drop for a public apology and admittance of the molestation.  The WH is trying to hide behind his presidential immunity but as he slandered her before the election that has not worked.

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18 minutes ago, Bogie56 said:

Didn't you ask this very question a few weeks ago and I answered that yes, one woman is suing Trump right now for defamation of character.  This was due to the nasty things he said about her on the campaign trail.  Everything else has a statute of limitations I think.  Anyway she is suing him for a pittance which she is willing to drop for a public apology and admittance of the molestation.  The WH is trying to hide behind his presidential immunity but as he slandered her before the election that has not worked.

Sorry I must have missed that.    Wow,  filing a defamation case is interesting from a legal angle.

Truth is always a defense of defamation of character but I believe the plaintive has to prove their case;  I.e. that Trump knowingly said lies to defame her character.     IF that is the case the defense doesn't have to even put up a defense if the plaintive can't prove their case.   

If the defense must prove that what they said about the plaintive is the truth,  Trump is toast.    

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Temple Taggart McDowell: The 1997 Miss Utah USA said Trump kissed her directly on the lips, at a time he was married to Marla Maples and McDowell was 21. Later, when she visited Trump Tower to discuss a modeling contract, she says Trump again embraced and kissed her on the lips, this time in front of two pageant chaperones and a receptionist. The New York encounter made one of the chaperones so “uncomfortable” that she advised McDowell not to go into any rooms with Trump alone, McDowell told NBC News.

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Karena Virginia: A yoga instructor said Trump harassed and groped her during a chance encounter at the U.S. Open in 1998. Virginia said Trump, a total stranger, then grabbed her arm and touched her breast. “I was in shock,” Virginia said. “I flinched. He said, ‘Don’t you know who I am?’ I felt intimidated and powerless. I said ‘yes.’”

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Jennifer Murphy: A former Apprentice contestant said Trump in 2004 kissed her on the lips. “He walked me to the elevator, and I said goodbye. I was thinking ‘oh, he’s going to hug me,’ but … he pulled my face in and gave me a smooch.”

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Ninni Laaksonen: A former Miss Finland said Trump in 2006 grabbed her bottom shortly after he had married Melania. “Trump stood right next to me and suddenly he squeezed my butt. He really grabbed my butt.”

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1 hour ago, jakeem said:

"I did try & **** her. She was married. I moved on her like a ****. She’s now got the big phony **** and everything. I just start kissing [women], I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the ****." - @realDonaldTrump

 

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From a WP article on Lewandowski's new book ...

It was Hicks who, on Oct. 7, took a call from a Washington Post reporter about a video from “Access Hollywood” in which Trump boasted about how he could “grab” women “by the p---y.” Trump looked at a transcript and said “that doesn’t sound like something I would say.” It was Bossie, who served as the deputy campaign manager, who played the video for Trump on his iPad. The campaign came up with the response that it was “locker room” talk.

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how about some truth around here. you trump haters doan give a rat's behind about trump bothering babes. it is the fact that he is in the white house, is president and is siding with conservative forces...

 

you guys lost! grow up and start living with it.

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35 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:

how about some truth around here. you trump haters doan give a rat's behind about trump bothering babes. it is the fact that he is in the white house, is president and is siding with conservative forces...

 

you guys lost! grow up and start living with it.

 

Well at least you admit that Trump gropes babes.   For a while there I believed you were in denial.   :P

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Jessica Drake: A porn star and sex educator said that during a 2006 golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Trump “grabbed” her and two other unnamed women tightly and kissed them on the lips “without asking permission.” He then offered Drake $10,000 and the use of his private plane, she said, if she would agree to come back to his room and accompany him to a party.

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5 minutes ago, Bogie56 said:

Jessica Drake: A porn star and sex educator said that during a 2006 golf tournament in Lake Tahoe, Trump “grabbed” her and two other unnamed women tightly and kissed them on the lips “without asking permission.” He then offered Drake $10,000 and the use of his private plane, she said, if she would agree to come back to his room and accompany him to a party.

As I can recall, trump married the Slovenian model in 2005.

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