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Bogus Biopics

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1 hour ago, Fedya said:

Artists like to say that art should be "challenging" and "transgressive", but they hate when another artist creates work that challenges them, like Truffaut did to Godard with Day for Night

Yes, the doc "Two in the Wave" tells this story well. Getting history from a bio-pic has never been my aim when I'm watching them. Think of "Gandhi" and "Lincoln"--good movies but don't expect to skip the REAL history of these epic figures by just watching movies about them. READ a book. Bio-graphy is one thing; bio-pic (as in motion PIC-ture) automatically means to me that it won't be true historical facts, but an interpretation, presented in more or less two hours and can't include an entire history of anyone's life.

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7 hours ago, Fedya said:

A bunch of expletive-deleted whining about how the movies don't have the political view the critic wants.

Artists like to say that art should be "challenging" and "transgressive", but they hate when another artist creates work that challenges them, like Truffaut did to Godard with Day for Night.

Subjective political views are one thing -- deliberately whitewashing  a topic is is an altogether different subject.

 

I always thought that Godard's work was challenging and transgressive, yet somewhat of an extended ego trip with little thought of anyone else, including the audience. He split the Critic Community Wide Open.

Truffaut certainly expressed  his own views, at times, even life experience in his Cinema. However,  I never felt he forgot about me, or everyone else in the audience, while he was working.

Watching a Truffaut movie makes me feel like I'm living alongside the director--viewing things from his vantage point.

 While he's not entirely oblivious to my existence, he makes allowances for my knowledge and comic relief, but he never loses sight of his goal or waters down his intentions to suit convention or commercialism.

 

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21 hours ago, mr6666 said:

'The Greatest Showman' reviews are in — and critics say Hugh Jackman's awful musical whitewashes the terrible history of 'circus freaks'

Ie., by turning into the usual-suspect "Gay metaphor", from another Australian director who dreamed of following in local-boy Baz Luhrmann's "Moulin Rouge" and "Great Gatsby" footsteps...We don't need TWO of them, thank you.  It took long enough for us to get rid of the one we already had.  (Remember, "Australia" is now the all-time #1 film down under, we're guaranteed to get a few career-fanboys surfacing.)

For those naive enough to pay money thinking they'll learn some actual biographical fact about the real PT, the 00's TV-movie with Beau Bridges relished in its own neato "Stuff you didn't know" facts about all the things you probably never realized PT invented.  (The raincheck?  The "middle class"?  Madison Square Garden?), even if they're stretching the bio and he probably didn't.

Unless you're one of the people suckered into thinking they were doing the 1979 Broadway musical, which Michael Crawford already filmed for cable, and surfaced on DVD if you look for it:

(It...doesn't get much better than that, unfortunately.)

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On 12/19/2017 at 5:00 PM, Palmerin said:

The cake story is a fable from BEFORE MA was even born; check it out, and you'll see.

That bit about Marie asking pardon for stepping on the executioners foot, seems like Hollywood lore but probably is true. Great and sumptuous film to watch even with the silliness of the script.

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