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Seeking copy of Hollywood Revuew of 1929

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DizzyVertigo, welcome to our thread!

 

I very much appreciated you putting in a youtube link! In the course of researching the sheet music-referenced films, I found out that even some of the so called "lost" films have snatches on youtube. I was thinking of a retro-edit, but perhaps you could help out here by posting a few more yourself. Youtube links would be a bomb, and help us all here to appreciate and remember these films much more. Any technicolor parts of these 1920's films, especially the musicals, that are on youtube would be very relevant and entertaining.

 

"You Were Meant for Me" became Anita Page's signature song throughout her life. Yes, she was gorgeous.

 

Thelma

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Hi Fred- The sheet music covers really are a form of film poster art! What I want to get to is to include sound files on what the music sounded like, so I envision film posters that come with-music!

 

To your knowledge Fred, has anyone ever loaded sound files to this message board? Would it be any different than the syntax used for loading pictures? I think one would have to load the sound file to a url address.

 

Animating this thread with vintage, authentic 1920's film music would be awesome!

 

I will load a few more film sheet music exhibits today!

 

Thelma

 

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Hi gagman,

 

Thanks for telling me about *Toll Of the Sea* and *Old San Francisco*! I didn't know these films were color. I did have a chance to acquire some sheet music from Old San Francisco recently, and given your information, I will make it a priority to obtain it. I am very eager to preserve the memory of any 20's film made with color.

 

Just one of the reasons 1920's color is important to preserve, is because the art, design and fashion sense of that time was markedly different from our own, as we recently discussed regarding the Vilma Banky graphic.

 

Thelma

 

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Drednm, Scottman and gagman have raised the music issue re silent films, and their posts reminded me to express certain concerns that I have had.

 

At a time when TCM is soliciting composers to step forward and compose music for several hundred silent films in their library, we have to be aware that music may ALREADY have been composed for these films at the time they were made! It might well take a lot of research in some cases to piece it all together, not unlike making a master restored print. It would be necessary to track down any and all commercial sheet music associated with the film as well. (Not always an easy thing to do!) Historical authenticity and respect for the film as cultural artifact would demand no less.

 

I think my friends are taking exception to the work of some modern composer- as well they should. The music and expression of a modern musician/composer should ALWAYS take a backseat to any historical materials available. Modern composition music is OK when there is no surviving original music.

 

Assuming you obtain original music- the next question that goes to authenticity is orchestration. They did everything a little differently back then, and so one would have to take considerable pains to assemble an orchestra and to provide an arrangement that makes it all sound like the 20's. A few years back, a group in the Netherlands recorded a full and accurate recreation of the music in Hal Roach films. Even for clever, talented and well financed Dutchmen, recreating the sound of a 30 piece Hollywood studio orchestra, circa 1930, was no walk in the park! It wasn't easy for them, but that is the sort of spirit one would have to bring to this kind of endeavor.

 

Imagine for a second, if we allowed such liberties with artifacts in the world of art and archeology! Suppose the Director of the Berlin Museum became tired of the color of Nefertiti's hat, or felt it was horribly out of style- and got out the paint spray can? Shouldn't Mona Lisa be getting a new 'do? We don't do these things in the world of art or with antiques.

 

Those who wish to compose for silent films need take my concerns seriously.

 

One of the objectives with my own involvement here is to help preserve the music as well, and to heighten awareness and appreciation for the orginal style and work of the films' creators.

 

Thelma

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*_EXHIBIT 16_*

 

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(from my sheet music collection)

 

Features a female character named "Jazzbo Gans"! Musical, B & W. Film is shown as released in 1930, but the sheet music is copyright 1929. Not the first time I have noticed this; makes me wonder if the music was released ahead of the film as part of a build-up.

 

Thelma

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*_EXHIBIT 17_*

 

cuckoos.jpg

 

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What a picture! *The Cuckoos* was released in 1930; sheet music out in 1929. Comedy Musical featuring Wheeler and Woolsey. Also included 2 Technicolor sequences.

 

This film was a follow up to *Rio Rita*, For me at least, Wheeler and Woolsey were an acquired taste; over time I came to appreciate the profound cynicism and intellect behind their humor.

 

On the backside we have reference to a blockbuster hit of the time- "*Vagabond Lover*"(1929), featuring heart throb Rudy Vallee. A comedy musical, all talking film. This film featured many hit songs by it's superstar performer.

 

Vallee was most fortunate. Dropping out of Yale to join a band is seldom a plan for prosperity and security, but he was one of the rare exceptions!

 

*Some clips from Cuckoos from youtube:*

 

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*Dancing The devil Away (1930)*

 

 

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*I Love You So Much (1930)*

 

 

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DTS Hollywood Musical Moment - *"I'm A Gypsy"*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwQO8-H3ukI

 

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DTS Hollywood Musical Moment - *"How We Love Our Alma Mater"*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6Xg3EvSvP0

 

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DTS Hollywood Musical Moment - *"All Alone Monday"*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fkHUJHyzcQ

 

 

Thelma

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Thanks, ThelmaTodd! :D

 

I'll try to find some more YouTube links, and I'll be sure to post them here!

 

By the way, thanks for posting all of your sheet music. Those are so fun to see. :)

 

Dizzy

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Thelma,

 

I have a few Silents filmed entierly in 2-Strip Technicolor. THE TOLL OF THE SEA (1922), STAGE STRUCK (1925), THE BLACK PIRATE (1926), THE VIKING (1928), BROADWAY (1929), and REDSKIN (1929). I have several other titles with Technicolor sequences.

 

THE TOLL OF THE SEA is a simple, but highly moving story of lost love, and sacrifice. Anna May Wong at age 17, has not as yet evolved into the arrestingly beautiful young woman that she was to become. However, she gives a truly magnificent performance. This is a film that you are not likely to forget once seeing it. Sadly the final reel is lost.

 

I sure hope TCM didn't tack on some new fangled score to this movie too, as they did with BROKEN BLOSSOMS!

 

There is no Technicolor in OLD SAN FRANCISCO (1927), only tinted scenens. Though there may have been Technicolor at one time? The transfer is good, but not great. Rather dark at times. It could due with some re-mastering. It gives you a much better idea of a proper Silent film score from this period.

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Thank you so much ThelmaTodd! Wow that really means a lot. :D I'm glad you are enjoying the links.

 

I'll check out those recommendations and see if they're on youtube or anywhere on the internet. If I find anything I'll post it.

 

Dizzy(Queenie Mahoney)

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Wow gagman66! You've got a copy of 1929's "Broadway" directed by Paul Fejos??? I thought this was a lost film and only existed in fragments! Wherever did you get it and how can I get a copy?

 

I know there were silent and sound versions released, and I thought the only sound version stlll in existence had Hungarian intertitles. I've only seen the "Hitting the Ceiling" number, the introduction, and a couple of other scenes here and there. Here's all I've found on youtube for "Broadway":

 

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A metallic giant roams the streets of Broadway and invites everyone to join in the revelry.

 

[broadway Intro Sequence|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0ug_OdNC0Y]

 

 

 

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A fuzzy view of a scene from the 2-strip Technicolor number "Hitting the Ceiling".

 

[broadway - Hitting the Ceiing|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arvQNZuQhLY&feature=related]

 

Some more images of the cast of Broadway in costume:

 

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Here's a clip from the Gold Diggers of Broadway:

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure these next two clips are from The Show of Shows (1929), but please correct me if I'm wrong, as it didn't exactly state that anywhere on the site:

 

 

 

 

I'll post more soon!

 

ThelmaTodd- I think I have a few photos that might work for still art.

Good idea! I do adore the BM...I might just change my username now, so if anyone sees a 'QueenieMahoney' around here its me! :)

 

Dizzy(Queenie Mahoney)

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Here are some screen caps I took of The Broadway Melody:

 

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If anyone wants me to make more, don't to hesitate to ask! :)

 

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That is indeed the finale to the Show of Shows. The best part of this film is the Singin in the Bathtub number by Winnie Lightner:

[singin in the Bathtub|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ee-mRrqV6g]

 

Another song by Lightner:

[ Pingo Pongo|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0Nobl7IAnA]

She had poor vision in later years due to her exposure to all of the bright lighting necessary to make these two-strip Technicolor films. (Show of Shows was originally shot in 2-Strip Technicolor).

 

This is the only remnant of Show of Shows that survives in color:

[Li Po Li|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieIUqWRr1KQ]

 

Then there is Shakespeare by John Barrymore:

[intro to Shakespeare|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J8dnh2kye4]

[barrymore performing Shakespeare|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdy2sUKxfDE]

 

A sister act including the Costello sisters and Viola Dana:

[sister Act|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMNOXXPRD8E]

 

Finally, a holdover from the silent era in Show of Shows:

[The Florodora Boys|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvW_n9nE0wc]

The emcee for Show of Shows was Frank Faye. If you've seen Hollywood Revue, it is obvious Frank is no Jack Benny.

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Its my first post under my new name! :)

 

Anyway,

 

More Broadway Melody caps:

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And, more youtube videos:

 

 

 

 

MUCH more to come!

 

Queenie

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Another clip from 1929's Syncopation:

 

[Jericho|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4n6F_dcu1Y]

 

And the finale from the Gold Diggers of Broadway. This and the previously posted "Tiptoe through the Tulips" number are all that survive of the film.

 

[Gold Diggers of Broadway Finale|http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfomcfVGqCQ]

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