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The "When was the last time a movie played on TCM?" thread

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On 6/5/2018 at 7:11 PM, LawrenceA said:

 

 

Hot Spell was on earlier today. It was an unannounced replacement. Oh, well...

 

 

AH HA HA HAHAHHAAAA!!!! I imagine Nipkow just sprawled flat out on the floor, having fainted after reading your post and realizing he missed it.

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We've got a conversation going on in another thread about race and films. I was wondering if and when the following played on TCM:

Birth of a Nation (1915)

Watermelon Man (1970)

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Here's four more that played/are playing on TCM that I'd like "last played on" dates for:

Another Face (1935)
Man Who Found Himself (1937)
Bullet Scars (1942)
Never The Twain Shall Meet (1931)

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In August my theme on the Essentials thread is going to be Republic Pictures Classics. I will be reviewing the following films. I don't think they've ever aired on TCM. Correct me if I'm wrong.

ATLANTIC CITY (1944)
THE FABULOUS SUZANNE (1946)
ANGEL ON THE AMAZON (1948)
BRIMSTONE (1949)

 

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1 hour ago, calvinnme said:

We've got a conversation going on in another thread about race and films. I was wondering if and when the following played on TCM:

Birth of a Nation (1915) - has played 8+ times, last on September of 2013

Watermelon Man (1970) - has played 3+ times, last on January of 2012, will play again in September of this year

 

1 hour ago, calvinnme said:

Here's four more that played/are playing on TCM that I'd like "last played on" dates for:

Another Face (1935) - May 2016
Man Who Found Himself (1937) - September 2017
Bullet Scars (1942) - September 2014
Never The Twain Shall Meet (1931) - July 2016

 

48 minutes ago, TopBilled said:

In August my theme on the Essentials thread is going to be Republic Pictures Classics. I will be reviewing the following films. I don't think they've ever aired on TCM. Correct me if I'm wrong.

ATLANTIC CITY (1944) - none
THE FABULOUS SUZANNE (1946) - none
ANGEL ON THE AMAZON (1948) - none
BRIMSTONE (1949) - none

 

 

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11 minutes ago, TopBilled said:

Thank you Larry!

Don't thank me yet...I screwed up!

I looked up the 1980 Atlantic City

The 1944 version has not been shown on TCM.

I edited my previous post to reflect this.

Sorry about the confusion.

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Just now, LawrenceA said:

Don't thank me yet...I screwed up!

I looked up the 1980 Atlantic City

The 1944 version has not been shown on TCM.

Sorry about the confusion.

No worries. I figured none of those Republic films had ever aired. 

I wanted to pick four films from different genres, ones that TCM had probably never shown, and ones that Martin Scorsese is not covering when he does a night of Republic films in late July. 

Maybe if we generate more awareness about Republic Pictures, TCM will partner with Paramount to start showing them. Paramount owns the entire Republic library (about 1000 features including serials) and they've digitally restored almost all of them. 

One thing that worked in Paramount's favor was many of the nitrate prints had been kept in good condition in a film museum in Britain. So the output from this great studio is now preserved for generations to come. It's time for TCM to show more of them.

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I know that Al Jolson's movies are rarely shown on TCM due to the racial stereotyping. I have an old VHS copy of Wonder Bar taped from TCM many years ago. I don't even have a VHS copy of Mammy from TCM. 

Can anyone tell me when TCM last showed Wonder Bar and Mammy?

 

 

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1 hour ago, midnight08 said:

Can anyone tell me when TCM last showed Wonder Bar and Mammy?

According to my notes the last time Wonder Bar played was June 6th 2007. 

While it's possible Mammy played at some point I show no record of it playing anytime after Dec. 2006.

Both Mammy and Wonder Bar are available on DVD from Warner Archive.

Wonder Bar has that outrageous number headed by both Jolson and Hal LeRoy in blackface called "Goin to Heaven on A Mule".

It's completely indescribable. What can you say when Hal LeRoy emerges tap dancing from a watermelon? Yes, it certainly was a different time!!!

 

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And Jolson reading a Yiddish newspaper in blackface!

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4 hours ago, Fedya said:

And Jolson reading a Yiddish newspaper in blackface!

The whole thing is very surreal to say the least! It had to be even then, maybe more so.

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Has TCM ever shown Beyond The Forest with Bette Davis? I think there is legal trouble {some kind of rights issue, don't know with whom}, so I'm not sure the channel has EVER aired it.

 

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1 hour ago, cinemanut said:

Has TCM ever shown Beyond The Forest with Bette Davis? I think there is legal trouble {some kind of rights issue, don't know with whom}, so I'm not sure the channel has EVER aired it.

 

Yes, it is possibly tied up.  I have it shown in Nov 1994.  My listing is in the link below.  Ever since they did away with this forum's signature area in all their infinite wisdom, I haven't had this prominently displayed.
http://moviecollector.us/reports/TCM_SCHEDULES_SUMMARY_alpha.htm

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Thank you "MovieCollector" for your link to the films. I see that "The Trial Of Mary Dugan" was shown once on TCM back in 01/95. I believe it also has a 'rights issue" which is why TCM has never shown it since. I wonder if this one and only showing was in error.

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9 hours ago, MovieCollectorOH said:

Yes, it is possibly tied up.  I have it shown in Nov 1994.  My listing is in the link below.  Ever since they did away with this forum's signature area in all their infinite wisdom, I haven't had this prominently displayed.
http://moviecollector.us/reports/TCM_SCHEDULES_SUMMARY_alpha.htm

Over the years, I've tried to look up most of the seemingly lost and buried movies on your site out of curiosity, but I guess I never actually looked up Beyond the Forest, which has such a rep as a "disappeared" movie, I just assumed it had never aired on TCM without ever checking. Well, congrats to those lucky folks who happened to be watching that one time in 1994! TCM's first year on the air.

Can't recall this happening much lately, but once in a blue moon, TCM toots its own horn when it's able to show some film that has been buried for many years. One example that immediately springs to mind is The Iron Petticoat, which I'm not going to pretend is any great movie now that I've seen it, but it was a once-in-a-lifetime pairing of Bob Hope and Katharine Hepburn and is interesting for that reason alone. I know TopBilled is also excited about the upcoming Republic Pictures spotlight night, as I'm not sure TCM has shown much of anything from Republic besides The Quiet Man in ten years or more. Not even John Wayne movies. A quick check of your site, and I see Sands of Iwo Jima last played in 2010 and Wake of the Red Witch in 2008. And every time TCM plays The Quiet Man, Ben M. or whoever the host is will always mention that Ford, Wayne and O'Hara all had to another pic for Republic first before they could make it, but has TCM ever played that movie?

Anyway, I was starting to ramble there. My point, and I do have one, is I'm always quietly holding out hope that TCM is aware that part of their fan base is longing for an occasional airing of such rarities and accommodate us when they're able.

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1 hour ago, sewhite2000 said:

Over the years, I've tried to look up most of the seemingly lost and buried movies on your site out of curiosity, but I guess I never actually looked up Beyond the Forest, which has such a rep as a "disappeared" movie, I just assumed it had never aired on TCM without ever checking. Well, congrats to those lucky folks who happened to be watching that one time in 1994! TCM's first year on the air.

Can't recall this happening much lately, but once in a blue moon, TCM toots its own horn when it's able to show some film that has been buried for many years. One example that immediately springs to mind is The Iron Petticoat, which I'm not going to pretend is any great movie now that I've seen it, but it was a once-in-a-lifetime pairing of Bob Hope and Katharine Hepburn and is interesting for that reason alone. I know TopBilled is also excited about the upcoming Republic Pictures spotlight night, as I'm not sure TCM has shown much of anything from Republic besides The Quiet Man in ten years or more. Not even John Wayne movies. A quick check of your site, and I see Sands of Iwo Jima last played in 2010 and Wake of the Red Witch in 2008. And every time TCM plays The Quiet Man, Ben M. or whoever the host is will always mention that Ford, Wayne and O'Hara all had to another pic for Republic first before they could make it, but has TCM ever played that movie?

Anyway, I was starting to ramble there. My point, and I do have one, is I'm always quietly holding out hope that TCM is aware that part of their fan base is longing for an occasional airing of such rarities and accommodate us when they're able.

Hi, I just wanted to confirm that there have been many improvements to my data over the last year. 

The first few years of TCM were only added into the project early last year.  So those first years were completely missing before that.

Also there were numerous other pre-2001 parts filled in last year, some of it provided by fellow poster @yanceycravat  Now there just remains a total of about 1.5 years pre-2001 missing.  That is for the whole TCM history.

I am fortunate to have someone else helping now, someone else who is computer-savy, to archive the month-ending data on an ongoing basis as well as provide me a one time set of his data from this decade.  This is something he happened to be doing already on his own, so only some minor adjustments on each of our ends was necessary.  I appreciate his help very much. 

I still do the future months, normalization (data matching across different data sources), error tests, and reports.  All of that now takes me about 2-3 hours a month.

It is only possible through the help of these other people, chipping in as they could (now up to about 6-7 other people total), that I was able to put all this together.

Yes, long live TCM.

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By the way, looks like that other picture Wayne/Ford/O'Hara did for Republic as payment to be allowed to make The Quiet Man was Rio Grande, which has actually played quite a bit on TCM, though somehow I've never seen it. It last aired in July, 2014.

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On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 10:27 AM, calvinnme said:

We've got a conversation going on in another thread about race and films. I was wondering if and when the following played on TCM:

Birth of a Nation (1915)

Watermelon Man (1970)

Funny jazz,  ironically I was only writing about 1970's very un pc nowadays anyway WATERMELON MAN  It may never play again o any network in this era again though???

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1 hour ago, sewhite2000 said:

By the way, looks like that other picture Wayne/Ford/O'Hara did for Republic as payment to be allowed to make The Quiet Man was Rio Grande, which has actually played quite a bit on TCM, though somehow I've never seen it. It last aired in July, 2014.

THE QUIET MAN IS TO ST. PAT'S DAY WHAT IT'S A WOINDERFUL LIFE IS TO  CHRISTMAS!

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14 hours ago, cinemanut said:

Has TCM ever shown Beyond The Forest with Bette Davis? I think there is legal trouble {some kind of rights issue, don't know with whom}, so I'm not sure the channel has EVER aired it.

 

Where she uttered the immortal line "WHAT A DUMP"

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On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 12:19 PM, TopBilled said:

No worries. I figured none of those Republic films had ever aired. 

I wanted to pick four films from different genres, ones that TCM had probably never shown, and ones that Martin Scorsese is not covering when he does a night of Republic films in late July. 

Maybe if we generate more awareness about Republic Pictures, TCM will partner with Paramount to start showing them. Paramount owns the entire Republic library (about 1000 features including serials) and they've digitally restored almost all of them. 

One thing that worked in Paramount's favor was many of the nitrate prints had been kept in good condition in a film museum in Britain. So the output from this great studio is now preserved for generations to come. It's time for TCM to show more of them.

TopBilled, 1981's AC has a kinda personal note for me & my mother. She was working security for another company after getting axed by playboy casino & actually had to work on the exact same street where that club was that *Lancaster went into & that rotating car garage was there then. People said they had only left Atlantic city weeks before we got there & several recalled even seeing *Burt & 1 guy said he looked small & thin though? *Lancaster always did have a system when filming,  probably from his days in the circus   He'd go off to himself when not in a scene & rest in a corner or something, pacing himself. He had just come down with Cancer a couple yrs before filming that superb film, but obviously beat it for yrs.  LOU PASCO & I sound un pc in this era, but *Sarandon is still very hot at age 72!   But back to the funny pt  BB King was playing in that club & my mother had his limo towed!

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2 hours ago, spence said:

TopBilled, 1981's AC has a kinda personal note for me & my mother. She was working security for another company after getting axed by playboy casino & actually had to work on the exact same street where that club was that *Lancaster went into & that rotating car garage was there then. People said they had only left Atlantic city weeks before we got there & several recalled even seeing *Burt & 1 guy said he looked small & thin though? *Lancaster always did have a system when filming,  probably from his days in the circus   He'd go off to himself when not in a scene & rest in a corner or something, pacing himself. He had just come down with Cancer a couple yrs before filming that superb film, but obviously beat it for yrs.  LOU PASCO & I sound un pc in this era, but *Sarandon is still very hot at age 72!   But back to the funny pt  BB King was playing in that club & my mother had his limo towed!

Funny. I'm sure you know B.B. King had his own clubs and restaurants. I went to one of B.B.'s joints in Universal City, California.

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TCM did begin showing "Night Flight" a 1933 film with Clark Gable that was out of circulation for decades due to some copyright complications. I wish more of these films would see the light of day. All these litigation and issue rights on 80+ year old films seems so petty.

I wish that TCM would be able to obtain the rights to show "Christopher Bean." It was Marie Dressler's last film, an MGM film to boot. It would be nice to see her in her farewell performance. 

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1 hour ago, midnight08 said:

TCM did begin showing "Night Flight" a 1933 film with Clark Gable that was out of circulation for decades due to some copyright complications. I wish more of these films would see the light of day. All these litigation and issue rights on 80+ year old films seems so petty.

I wish that TCM would be able to obtain the rights to show "Christopher Bean." It was Marie Dressler's last film, an MGM film to boot. It would be nice to see her in her farewell performance. 

Yes, when Dressler was Star of the Month two summers ago, CHRISTOPHER BEAN was conspicuously absent from the schedule. It also has Lionel Barrymore in it...and I think it would be a hoot to see Dressler & Barrymore act opposite each other.

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