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Det Jim McLeod

Goldfinger, the best Bond film?

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It certainly is my favorite. I just re watched for the upteenth time yesterday. It's great with a good sound system, especially when Shirley Bassey is belting out Gold-FINGAAAAA.

It has the best Bond actor (Sean Connery), best villain (Gert Frobe as Goldfinger), best henchman (Harold Sakata as Oddjob), one of the top 3 Bond girls (Honor Blackman as **** Galore), best Song, best car (Aston Martin DB5).

This was the film that perfected the 007 formula and it has continued to this day. I was also comparing it to today's action films, "Goldfinger" (will refer to it as GF after this)will give you action as well as suspense and some jokes. I used to think GF was non stop action but it does give you time to breathe in between action scenes. There is the entertaining golf game and the scene where GF talks of his nefarious but clever plan about Fort Knox, while drinking mint juleps with Bond. Today's movies assault you with the action and nearly every line of dialogue is a wisecrack, whereas in GF you get a joke to give a punch line to a scene. (Remember "positively shocking" in the pre credit scene?).

What is your opinions of GF or what is your favorite Bond film?

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I agree with you for many of the reasons you cited.

But I've also begun to appreciate the films that bookended "Goldfinger" -- "From Russia with Love" (1963) and "Thunderball" (1965) -- for their merits. 

The Orient Express section of "FRWL" is riveting.

"Thunderball" was so nice, they filmed it twice. In 1983, Connery returned to the role of Bond after a 12-year absence in "Never Say Never Again."

And ya gotta love how Tom Jones sings the hell out of the "Thunderball" theme song by John Barry and Don Black.

 

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GOLDFINGER and 20 other classic Bond films are now available for streaming on Starz. This includes all the ones with Connery, Moore, Dalton and Brosnan.

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imagine auric goldfinger and Donald trump as golfing buddies.

both appreciate gold.

:DImage result for trump goldfinger

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I think I can agree.  I love so many of them, but there is something to be said for the 007 formula aspect Det Jim McLeod mentioned.  GF really established that Bond wasn't just going to be about espionage. 

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I suppose it could be argued that Goldfinger established the move torwards dependence on gadgetry in the future bond films.

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I will always revere "From Russia, With Love" - because it introduced me to James Bond - and his very particular world - surreal, fevered, spellbinding. 

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My favorite (and only Bond DVD I own) is From Russia With Love.  I think I read somewhere that this was Sean Connery's favorite of the ones he made.  Would have to say though that Goldfinger is probably the best one made.  I remember serving at Ft. Knox, KY and it is interesting comparing my knowledge of it to the movie.  Don't know about now, but used to be able to just drive on the post and down the road in front of the depository.

No doubt, Connery was the best Bond, but then he defined the role.  

Ironic that so many of the cable channels show Bond movie marathons, especially the Connery through Roger Moore ones.

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I like Goldfinger a lot. I also really like:

Dr. No - The first in the series is rough around the edges but that's part of its appeal, as things hadn't become formulaic yet. Joseph Wiseman as the metal-handed title villain, and Ursula Andress as Honey Rider, are highlights of the series. Connery is also at his most cold-blooded.

From Russia with Love - Arguably the best from a filmmaking stand point. The train fight with Robert Shaw is justly famous, as is Lotte Lenya's poisoned-knife shoe. I also enjoy Pedro Armendariz in his last role as a sympathetic Turkish attache. 

You Only Live Twice - The most outrageous of the Connery's Bonds takes place largely in Japan, and while it features the cringe-worthy sight of Connery made up in yellowface, it also features the first full appearance of Bond's arch-nemesis Blofeld, played here by Donald Pleasence in the look that would later inspire Dr. Evil in the Austin Powers comedies. The massive volcano lair set-piece at the end is a series highlight.

On Her Majesty's Secret Service - If Connery had stuck around, this would be the best in the series, hands down. It goes places no other Bond film does, while still featuring the scenic locations and outlandish villains one's come to expect. 

The Spy Who Loved Me - My favorite of the Roger Moore Bonds features a lovely Barbara Bach as Bond's Soviet counterpart, Egyptian locations, and the first of appearance of Jaws.

GoldenEye - The series returned from a 6 year hiatus with Pierce Brosnan's first outing, and a farewell of sorts to the Cold War. I like the tank-driving scene, and the mid-90's big-budget action film aesthetic.

Casino Royale - Bond gets rebooted with Daniel Craig as a different sort of Bond. I expected to hate this one, but it instead ranks among my favorites. Tough, exciting, and with excellent performances from Craig, Mads Mikkelsen as the villain, and Eva Green as the chief Bond Girl.

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1 hour ago, jakeem said:

But I've also begun to appreciate the films that bookended "Goldfinger" -- "From Russia with Love" (1963) and "Thunderball" (1965) -- for their merits. 

The Orient Express section of "FRWL" is riveting.

I agree on "From Russia With Love" and the Orient express fight scene. Whereas henchman like Oddjob and Jaws were great, they were more exaggerated but fun. Robert Shaw's Red Grant was more realistic and downright scary in his cold bloodiness. 

I am one of the few who enjoyed the "Thunderball" remake "Never Say Never Again". Connery was older and showed an "old pro" way about him in this one. Barbara Carrera is the sexiest of the "bad" Bond girls.

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11 minutes ago, TheCid said:

My favorite (and only Bond DVD I own) is From Russia With Love.  I think I read somewhere that this was Sean Connery's favorite of the ones he made.  Would have to say though that Goldfinger is probably the best one made.  I remember serving at Ft. Knox, KY and it is interesting comparing my knowledge of it to the movie.  Don't know about now, but used to be able to just drive on the post and down the road in front of the depository.

No doubt, Connery was the best Bond, but then he defined the role.  

Ironic that so many of the cable channels show Bond movie marathons, especially the Connery through Roger Moore ones.

When it came to the production of "Goldfinger," there was no way that the United States government would permit filmmakers to see the actual vaults in Fort Knox where the gold reserves are stored. So production designer Sir Ken Adam had to use his imagination to come up with something believable. The result was pure gold!

 

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While I enjoy the Moore ones, they are far more humorous than others.  Never liked Pierce Brosnan and have seen his Bond movies, but don't like them.

Daniel Craig does well, but the "new" Bond movies are different from the earlier ones.  Of course, everything is and movie making has changed.

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13 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:

I like Goldfinger a lot. I also really like:

Dr No is my second favorite. Ursula Andress will always be most stunning of the Bond girls. It also contains the full version of James Bond theme, the best Bond...James Bond scene and Jack Lord is by far the best Felix Leiter, looking and acting nearly as cool as Bond.

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4 minutes ago, Det Jim McLeod said:

Ursula Andress will always be most stunning of the Bond girls.

Or Ursala Undress as Phyllis Diller called her.

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17 minutes ago, TheCid said:

While I enjoy the Moore ones, they are far more humorous than others.  Never liked Pierce Brosnan and have seen his Bond movies, but don't like them.

"Diamonds Are Forever" (1971) -- which was Connery's comeback as Bond after passing up the 1969 thriller "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" -- set the stage for the Moore series. It has a lot in common with the films that followed it, especially in the humor department.

 

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11 minutes ago, TheCid said:

While I enjoy the Moore ones, they are far more humorous than others.  Never liked Pierce Brosnan and have seen his Bond movies, but don't like them.

Daniel Craig does well, but the "new" Bond movies are different from the earlier ones.  Of course, everything is and movie making has changed.

I have enjoyed some of the Moore ones also, "Octopussy" is my favorite. While it gets silly, it moves so fast, that is hard not to be entertained. However Moore was in two of the worst in my opinion "Moonraker" and "A View To A Kill"

I like Bronsnan, my favorite of his was "Tomorrow Never Dies" with a great villain (who is a media expert) played by Jonathan Pryce. Michelle Yeoh is the only Bond girl who is believable in fight scenes.

The recent "Spectre" is my favorite of the Craig ones. It was most reminiscent of the early Connery ones with a great gadget in his new watch and a fight scene with a hulking henchman, we know Bond won't be able to beat him one on one in a fist fight so he needs to find another way to defeat him.

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14 minutes ago, Det Jim McLeod said:

I have enjoyed some of the Moore ones also, "Octopussy" is my favorite. While it gets silly, it moves so fast, that is hard not to be entertained. However Moore was in two of the worst in my opinion "Moonraker" and "A View To A Kill"

Musically speaking, "Moonraker" (1979) and "A View to a Kill" (1985) rule! 

The former features one of John Barry's best scores for a Bond film.

The theme for the latter -- performed by Duran Duran -- became the first song from a Bond film to reach the No. 1 spot on the Billboard pop chart.

 

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42 minutes ago, jakeem said:

Musically speaking, "Moonraker" (1979) and "A View to a Kill" (1985) rule!

I have to agree on the Duran Duran song "A View To A Kill", it was a great explosive 1980s rocker, too bad the film did not live up to it.

I was not impressed by the "Moonraker" theme song, though it was sung by the great Shirley Bassey who previously gave us the brassy "Goldfinger" and the shimmering "Diamonds Are Forever"

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20 minutes ago, Det Jim McLeod said:

I was not impressed by the "Moonraker" theme song, though it was sung by the great Shirley Bassey who previously gave us the brassy "Goldfinger" and the shimmering "Diamonds Are Forever"

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Bassey's theme for "Moonraker" is lovely -- and I really like the disco version at the end of the movie.

 

 

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On 7/5/2018 at 1:17 PM, jakeem said:

We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Bassey's theme for "Moonraker" is lovely -- and I really like the disco version at the end of the movie.

Like Thunderball, Licence to Kill and Man with the Golden Gun, Moonraker stretched the envelope limits of the occasional "CAN the songwriter actually write a plausible theme with that title?" challenges...Octopussy, OTOH, graciously conceded.  ?

On 7/5/2018 at 12:10 PM, Det Jim McLeod said:

I have enjoyed some of the Moore ones also, "Octopussy" is my favorite. While it gets silly, it moves so fast, that is hard not to be entertained. However Moore was in two of the worst in my opinion "Moonraker" and "A View To A Kill"

I like Bronsnan, my favorite of his was "Tomorrow Never Dies" with a great villain (who is a media expert) played by Jonathan Pryce. Michelle Yeoh is the only Bond girl who is believable in fight scenes.

And I also wanted to believe that Octopussy was the "fun" answer to the gritty action of For Your Eyes Only and before the geriatric goofiness of View to a Kill.  But I watched it again just a year or two ago and..yes:  Too silly, in the truest Graham Chapman definition of the word.  And I didn't even mind Moore dressing up like a clown when I first saw the movie in theaters.

A View to a Kill is funnier if you look at Christopher Walken's villain as literally an SNL sketch of "Christopher Walken auditions as a 007 villain".  I guarantee it will be impossible to keep a straight face at Walken deliveries like "Oh...you do amuse me...Mr. BOND."

And TND is my pick for the "essential" Pierce Brosnan 007, not least because of Pryce's villain.  Yes, a British poke at Rupert Murdoch, but given that Ted Turner's channels were having seemingly non-stop "Bond Week" monopolies, the obvious CNN karma was there too.

Musically, I never learned to recognize John Barry's soaring string-sections and blaring french-horns until the 007 scores--And while any true 007 song should have Shirley Bassey and "Goldfinger"'s brass-blares, you know you're listening to Barry on "You Only Live Twice": 

(Now that's the future composer of "Out of Africa" and "Dances With Wolves".)

But, we all digress:  Is Goldfinger the definitive 007 film?:
Connery.  Gert Frobe.  Harold Sakata.  Honor Blackman.  The Aston Martin, with gadgets and ejection seat.  Fort Knox.  "Why no, Mr. Bond..."

Answer:  YES.

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While I would agree that Goldfinger is the most satisfactory Bond film (with From Russia With Love No. 2), here is one of the reasons why which no one has mentioned:

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1 hour ago, TomJH said:

While I would agree that Goldfinger is the most satisfactory Bond film (with From Russia With Love No. 2), here is one of the reasons why which no one has mentioned:

ShirleyEaton-Goldfingermontage.jpg

Oh, yes the wonderful Shirley Eaton. Her scene become the symbol for the film.

I met her several years ago at an autograph show. I told her my name was James and she said in her delightful British accent "Ohhhh, James, how luv-lee" There was no smoking allowed but I saw her sneak a cigarette while she was at her table. She was very personable and a lot of fun.

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2 minutes ago, Det Jim McLeod said:

Oh, yes the wonderful Shirley Eaton. Her scene become the symbol for the film.

I met her several years ago at an autograph show. I told her my name was James and she said in her delightful British accent "Ohhhh, James, how luv-lee" There was no smoking allowed but I saw her sneak a cigarette while she was at her table. She was very personable and a lot of fun.

I have to say that with Goldfinger having both Eaton AND Honor Blackman's **** Galore, that one film has my two favourite Bond girls. Tough to top that duo.

I saw Eaton appear in an episode of The Saint, with Roger Moore recently. It was nice to see her working with a future Bond.

Sorry to hear the lady is a smoker. I hope she doesn't pay a price for it.

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