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Do You Watch TCM Underground Often?

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23 minutes ago, Hepburn Fan said:

This is a link to the 1968 version. I am guessing that is what you want. Just Watch is a great website to search with. Based on the title alone, I'm sure it would open my eyes, and keep them open all night and into the morning.

https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/night-of-the-living-dead

 

Night of the Living Dead is not Return of the Living Dead. The former is a serious horror film, the latter is a horror comedy. ROTLD is only tangentially connected to NOTLD. However, there was a direct remake of NOTLD in 1990, as well as sequels including Dawn of the DeadDay of the Dead, and remakes of those, too. Return of the Living Dead also has sequels. Confused yet? :lol:

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Return of the Living Dead is available in several different DVD and Blu-ray editions. I recommend the Scream Factory version:

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On ‎9‎/‎17‎/‎2018 at 2:09 PM, Hepburn Fan said:

They either like what TCM does or not.

But TCM does Undergound. A couple of hours once a week for about 42 weeks each year.

And we who like it are attracted to it. And some of us are young.

If TCM appealed only to old people, it'd be out of business by now.

Old people tend to die a lot, ay.

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13 minutes ago, lydecker said:

I must ask:  Has "Attack of the Killer Tomatoes" every made it to TCM Underground? Seems like a perfect film for TU.

I don't see it in there.

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Just now, MovieCollectorOH said:

I don't see it in there.

Well, you would know!  How did they miss getting their hands on a "classic" like that???

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25 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:

Night of the Living Dead is not Return of the Living Dead. The former is a serious horror film, the latter is a horror comedy. ROTLD is only tangentially connected to NOTLD. However, there was a direct remake of NOTLD in 1990, as well as sequels including Dawn of the DeadDay of the Dead, and remakes of those, too. Return of the Living Dead also has sequels. Confused yet? :lol:

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Return of the Living Dead is available in several different DVD and Blu-ray editions. I recommend the Scream Factory version:

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ZOMBIE ON POLICE SCANNER: “....send....more....cops.”

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How does one find what's on TCM Underground? I'd never heard of it before now. I went to the link on the web site, but it the information wasn't current. I understand it comes on at 2:00AM EDT (or EST).

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6 minutes ago, Hoganman1 said:

How does one find what's on TCM Underground? I'd never heard of it before now. I went to the link on the web site, but it the information wasn't current. I understand it comes on at 2:00AM EDT (or EST).

At the very top of this page, you will see an option to click on a link to the schedule which will take you to the full schedule for what is playing on TCM today. Within that schedule there’s a calendar that you can click on days in advance to see what’s coming up.At the very top of this page, you will see an option to click on a link to the schedule which will take you to the full schedule for was playing on TCM today. Within the cat schedule there’s an a but a calendar that you can click on days in advance to see what’s coming up.

god damnit, my phone did that twice.

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10 minutes ago, Hoganman1 said:

How does one find what's on TCM Underground? I'd never heard of it before now. I went to the link on the web site, but it the information wasn't current. I understand it comes on at 2:00AM EDT (or EST).

Just look at the schedules. TCM Underground is on every Friday late night, usually at 2:00 AM ET, but sometimes a little earlier or later. I posted the lineup and dates for the next 10 weeks or so earlier in the thread.

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Do you wanna party? 

Ps- I watched This whole trailer and there’s nothing too terribly disturbing or offensive in it for any of you who are interested.

 

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3 hours ago, LawrenceA said:

Return of the Living Dead also has sequels.

(Although some might distinctly dispute that point.  ? )

I do forego most of the disco movies.

I must ask:  They've had disco movies on TCMU?

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52 minutes ago, EricJ said:

 I must ask:  They've had disco movies on TCMU?

Probably about half a dozen. Maybe more.

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5 hours ago, lydecker said:

Well, you would know!  How did they miss getting their hands on a "classic" like that???

There's a brand new movie out which I saw in the theaters within just the last couple of weeks where the characters are shown watching Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. I'm trying to force out of my long-term memory banks what that movie was.

Aggh!!! I can remember, I will come back and post.

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18 hours ago, cigarjoe said:

Please do.....

A couple of titles treat taboo subject matters with a delicate, subdue, almost lyrical hand; and though they were not masterpieces, I was impressed with both:

I'm not sure TCM has aired this or not: the 1996 Canadian film Kissed, about an embalmer in a funeral home engaging in **** with the corpses there.  I haven't seen this in a long time.  Here is a DVD review with screen captures.  The protagonist, a young woman, has a lifelong fascination with dead people and animals, and she is sensitively, almost sympathetically portrayed in the film.

I recently discovered the films by Polish filmmaker Walerian Borowczyk, who made a series of exotic period dramas in the 60s and 70s that often caused controversies -- none more so than his 1974 film Immoral Tales, which I'm pretty sure TCM has never aired and probably will never do.  It comprises of 4 short stories: (1) a young couple go to the seashore to experiment sex as a game; (2) in probably the most controversial of the four stories, a young Catholic girl is locked in a room to repent, but instead, she pleasures herself by using all the religious items in the room (crosses, figurines, food offerings, furniture, etc.) as **** facilitators; (3) a countess abducts young virgins and bathes in their blood; (4) in the cinematically weakest segment, the daughter of Pope Alexander VI has sex with her male relatives.  Erotic subject matters minus art often becomes pornography, and that last segment is closest to that; whereas the other three do offer something about the human condition, albeit one that involves forbidden thoughts and acts.  The screen captures here of the Blu-ray edition don't really show much, but they give you a glimpse of the director's visual style, which can be called quite elegant.  The Blu-ray supplements contain a similarly salacious short film by the director called Private Collection (1979), in which we see a collection of vintage sex toys and demonstrations of how they work.

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On 9/18/2018 at 10:28 AM, DVDPhreak said:

I watch TCM Underground pretty often but it is not "underground enough" for me.  A lot of films in the 60s and 70s pushed the envelope further than what even today's jaded viewers could imagine, especially in the Italian giallo and exploitation genres.  So I have to look for these films some other ways, such as Blu-rays, even imported ones. 

I recently watched for the first time the 1972 Italian giallo mystery film Don't Torture a Duckling.  It has a scene with a beautiful naked woman seducing a young boy, and a scene of a witch being brutally beaten to death.  Either scene would give the typical TCM viewers heart attacks.  TCM still strikes me as a "polite" film station that would never show a film like this. 

Though TCM has shown Hitchcock's Psycho and its brutal shower scene many times, it would never show the 1964 horror-mystery classic Blood and Black Lace, which has several scenes of brutal violence, such as a woman having her face pressed against a boiler.  This is a film that many of today's filmmakers have cited as a big influence, but sadly TCM viewers may never get to see it.

I agree that TCM is by and large a "polite" channel that certainly doesn't cater much to hardcore gorehounds.  However, they have occasionally shown some relatively explicit fare on TCM Underground.  As was pointed out earlier, they've shown Blood and Black Lace, and it was definitely the restored, uncut version that was recently released on Blu-ray by Arrow Video.  They've also shown Dario Argento's The Cat o' Nine Tails and I believe Lucio Fulci's The Beyond.  Not to mention occasional airings of A Clockwork Orange in prime time.  Granted, that's not a particularly bloody film, but it's certainly still a disturbing and controversial work.

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19 hours ago, darkblue said:

But TCM does Undergound. A couple of hours once a week for about 42 weeks each year.

And we who like it are attracted to it. And some of us are young.

If TCM appealed only to old people, it'd be out of business by now.

Old people tend to die a lot, ay.

White Flag. I surrender any more opinions on TCM Underground. On the other hand:

All people tend to die. It isn't always age related.

TCM does appeal to younger people, since you claim to be one of them. The biggest target audience is probably older.

It would be difficult for TCM to fail. Cable TV and satellite customers pay for TCM in a package with other channels. Last time I checked, if you have DirecTV, you also have TCM in all packages. It costs extra with Dish Network. In my case it requires paying Comcast more, but it is for a package of maybe 30 channels. If you are paying to watch TCM, they too are getting paid.

FilmStruck is different. You are paying for one service. They are owned, to the best of my knowledge, by Turner Classic Movies Inc. - WarnerMedia - AT&T. FilmStruck should survive because the sister/parent companies see it as the future.

My point, I really believe and hope TCM is too big to fail. It is way more than just a movie channel. If TCM failed, a ton of extras goes with it. There is no other replacement channel.

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On 9/17/2018 at 9:30 AM, lydecker said:

While I think I know the rationale for TCM having added TCM Underground a few years ago  -- Get "younger demos!!!" Acquire films for a cheaper price than you would pay for "classic films," etc.  --   I must confess that I rarely, rarely watch it.  Most of the offerings seem to me to be less underground and more drive-in/went-straight-to-home-video rejects. I mean titles like Motel Hell and Eye of the Devil do not exactly inspire me to tune in.  Which makes me wonder . . . do other people on the boards consider TCM Underground "Must See TV?"

I watch it religiously, Lydecker. I do miss the intro where it would show the clip with Tommy Rettig from "The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. T" film and also the bit with Peter Lorre in "Mad Love" although the current graphics are fun for sure.

Now you are a classy person, as we know from your name relating to that famous dancing sophisticate, so these lurid melodramatic entities that show up on TCM Underground might infect your mind. I tend to watch them as I like the contrast between high art and low art. As you know from the legendary book, "The Tastemakers" highbrow art can change places with lowbrow art, and both can move upward and downward on a graph, but Middlebrow Art remains static forever. Hence, I only watch the high and the low ends, and enjoy seeing them change places intermittently. If you decide to become an adherent of the Highbrow and Lowbrow Admiration Consortium, you will need to start watching some TCM Underground flicks. If not, that's okay too.

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On 9/17/2018 at 10:26 AM, laffite said:

Motel Hell sounds interesting.

That's Motel Hello to you, Laffite!

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On 9/17/2018 at 1:13 PM, LawrenceA said:

Upcoming TCM Underground features include:

  • Macon County Line (1974) and Return to Macon County (1975) on 9/21
  • Alone in the Dark (1982) and Eye of the Devil (1966) on 9/28
  • Deadly Friend (1986) and Demon Seed (1977) on 10/5
  • Funeral Parade of Roses (1970)** and Portrait of Jason (1967) on 10/12
  • Dreamscape (1984) and Dead Sleep (1990)** on 10/19
  • The Hand (1981) and The Beast with Five Fingers (1946) on 10/26
  • The Lawnmower Man (1992) and The Terminal Man (1974)** on 11/2
  • Lady Street Fighter (1981) and Sister Street Fighter (1975) on 11/9
  • Sisters (1973) and Eyes of a Stranger (1981) on 11/16
  • River's Edge (1986) and In Cold Blood (1967) on 11/23
  • Mary Jane's Not a Virgin Anymore (1996)** and I Was a Teenage Serial Killer (1993)** on 11/30

 

**I have not seen these, and will most likely be recording/watching them.

 

In the interest of saying that some TCM Underground films are definitely not cheesy, there are some actually fine movies in that list, albeit a bit offbeat like "River's Edge", "In Cold Blood" obviously, "Sisters", "The Beast with Five Fingers" and "Demon Seed". 

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On 9/17/2018 at 1:29 PM, Det Jim McLeod said:

I do, I have seen some really entertaining though weird films on there.

 

The Baby (1973) A bizarre thriller about a grown man still treated as a baby by his nasty mother (Ruth Roman). A social worker (Anjenette Comer) tries to save him.

The Town That Dreaded Sundown (1977) A killer in a sack mask terrorizes a Texarkana town, based on a true story. Ben Johnson is the Texas Ranger on the case. Directed by Charles Pierce (Legend Of Boggy Creek)

Willard (1971) a cult classic with an excellent performance by Bruce Davison as a young man who trains an army of rats. Ernest Borgnine is his mean boss and Elsa Lanchester his eccentric mother.

T'is true, that "The Town That Dreaded Sundown" is an interesting movie. I had just read a book about the crimes it was based on before I saw it, and it was interesting to see the big screen version. "The Baby" is just off the wall, and "Willard" of course is a bonafide classic of rodent appeal, with some great acting by the rodents and with a fab revenge plot.

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6 minutes ago, CaveGirl said:

In the interest of saying that some TCM Underground films are definitely not cheesy, there are some actually fine movies in that list, albeit a bit offbeat like "River's Edge", "In Cold Blood" obviously, "Sisters", "The Beast with Five Fingers" and "Demon Seed". 

Yes, I thought In Cold Blood was an odd choice for Underground, but I guess they needed something to pair with River's Edge (which itself isn't exactly a fringe movie, although it has a cult following) for a "true crime" double-header.

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On 9/17/2018 at 6:30 PM, CinemaInternational said:

As far as I know, I've only seen one film that ever aired on Underground and it wasn't on TCM, it was on a DVD. That film was Martin Scorsese's Kafkaesque dark comedy After Hours from 1985. It was a very offbeat  film with formidably flaky and eccentric supporting turns from Teri Garr, Catherine O'Hara, Roseanna Arquette, and Linda Fiorentino. There was one  time I took a peek at Underground, but the film seemed so unhinged from the first few minutes that I turned it off. That film was Scenes from the Class Struggle in Beverly Hills.

"After Hours" is one of the best darkly comedic films of all time. The part where he is trying to remember a phone number and Teri Garr keeps repeating other numbers, when his twenty dollar bill flies out of the taxi cab, the sign in the apartment saying "Dead Body this way" or whatever. It is a great movie, but definitely belongs on an Underground slot.

Let's just be honest. Films are films and just like people, one has to take some good with some bad. Now I do choose to be around people mostly who are not toxic, but every once in a while, meet someone who I would have rejected but find they might be a really fine person, full of fun and interest, and I'm glad I did not immediately relegate them to the undesirable heap. That's the way I feel about TCM Underground. Is every film gonna be a classic like "The Third Man"? No, probably not but often there is a gem that it worth more than it's reputation.

Even when this doesn't happen, some films are just fun in all their inane situations and I like to laugh. Just like I would not want only to watch Pavarotti sing opera but would occasionally also want to hear Tab Hunter try to sing something like "Young Love" even if he butchers it. There is no good without the occasional bad to compare...

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On 9/17/2018 at 7:04 PM, LornaHansonForbes said:

Well, it WAS better than NIGHT OF THE LEPUS...

also also, and this is the sort of thing only *i* would complain about but...a detriment to MOTEL HELL was they had a very rich orchestral score. Seriously I think a 32 piece symphony recorded the soundtrack, which had a sweeping kind of Merchant Ivoryish Thing going- It was decidedly out of place for a low-budget horror movie about psychotic cannibal sausage makers

Seriously.

Bunny Hater!

Lorna, I only watched TNOTL to hear Stuart Whitman speak with that incredibly rich and amazing voice.

Ya know, speaking of musical scores, do you know the difference between a Spice Girls movie and a porno movie?

The porno movie has better music! Okay, I stole that from someone but it still plays.

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