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The first Hollywood horror film where evil tirumphs

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Movies such as The Omen, Rosemary's Baby, and The Fearless Vampire Killers are noticeable for evil winning.  Can anyone suggest the first Hollywood movie where this happens?

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It wasn't an intentional horror film, but how about John Huston's tale of overpowering greed -- "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" (1948)?

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The Day Mars Invaded Earth ends with the Martians having killed and replaced an entire family.

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A case could be made for The Mummy’s Ghost (1944) since the movie ends with Kharis reunited with Ananka. Sounds like a win from his point of view.

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14 hours ago, skimpole said:

Movies such as The Omen, Rosemary's Baby, and The Fearless Vampire Killers are noticeable for evil winning.  Can anyone suggest the first Hollywood movie where this happens?

"The Omen" was intended as a trilogy, evil did not triumph in "Omen III - The Final Conflict".  Damian was stabbed by DeCarlo's Megiddo dagger and died.

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"No Country For Old Men" (2007)

Anton Chigurh, a hitman bribed  2 witnesses for their silence, and flees near the end.

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These are not really horror but -

The Florentine Dagger (1935) is an early production code film in which a man believes that he is haunted by the spirit of Cesare Borgia. It is actually a murder mystery, and the person responsible does get away with it, mainly aided by others because that person turns out to be a tragic figure. Still, odd for the production code era to allow mitigating circumstances to be permitted.

Love At First Bite (1979) - A comedy more than a horror, but Count Dracula does get away and gets what he came to New York for. Of course, arguments could be made that Richard Benjamin is really playing the villain here.

Night Watch (1973) - This was on TCM just a little while ago. A woman thinks she sees a murder in a boarded up house next door, but everybody thinks she is just having a nervous breakdown. I won't spoil the ending for you, but the villain does get away.

Your best chance at seeing villains win out are in British films because they never had a production code. Basically if the film did not have profanity or nudity you could exhibit your film. The American production code had all kinds of prohibitions in it that had nothing to do with "common decency".

 

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On 10/11/2018 at 6:25 PM, Gershwin fan said:

The Day Mars Invaded Earth ends with the Martians having killed and replaced an entire family.

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Predating this one by some seven years and where an invasion by some extraterrestrial entity seems to have had succeeded in its goals as "The End" appears on screen, would be Invasion of the Body Snatchers

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(...I'm sure we all remember Kevin McCarthy's dire warnings to his surrounding motorists as we fade to black here, don't we?!)

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On 10/11/2018 at 6:21 PM, jakeem said:

It wasn't an intentional horror film, but how about John Huston's tale of overpowering greed -- "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre" (1948)?

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Sorry jakeem, but horror or not, I don't see how "evil triumphs at the end" in this film?

By the end of this one, the one character who would be the closest to being called "evil", Bogart, DOES get his just desserts, remember.

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8 minutes ago, Dargo said:

Sorry jakeem, but horror or not, I don't see how "evil triumphs at the end" in this film?

By the end of this one, the one character who would be the closest to being called "evil", Bogart, DOES get his just desserts, remember.

Sorry Dargo. You who eschew the innocent extra "u" should not use an expression that has an extra "s!"

"The expression meaning that which is deserved was originally just deserts. The phrase is the last refuge of an obsolete meaning of desert—namely, something that is deserved or merited. But because most modern English speakers are unfamiliar with that old sense of desert, the phrase is often understandably written just desserts."

Perhaps you mean that Bogart gets a creme brûlée at the end?

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7 minutes ago, Swithin said:

Sorry Dargo. You who eschew the innocent extra "u" should not use an expression that has an extra "s!"

"The expression meaning that which is deserved was originally just deserts. The phrase is the last refuge of an obsolete meaning of desert—namely, something that is deserved or merited. But because most modern English speakers are unfamiliar with that old sense of desert, the phrase is often understandably written just desserts."

Unless you mean that Bogart gets a creme brûlée at the end.

LOL

Well Swithin, IF there'd be anybody who'd know about archaic methods of English spellings, it sure would be YOU, alright!!! ;)

(...but thanks for the etymology lesson here anyway, ol' boy) 

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32 minutes ago, Dargo said:

Sorry jakeem, but horror or not, I don't see how "evil triumphs at the end" in this film?

By the end of this one, the one character who would be the closest to being called "evil", Bogart, DOES get his just desserts, remember.

Did you miss the part when the three prospectors were going to kill the newcomer (played by Bruce Bennett, the onetime movie Tarzan) because he wanted a cut? They were all consumed by greed -- which is one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

But you may have a point because the mountain range was a clear winner. It reclaimed its own property.

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3 minutes ago, jakeem said:

Did you miss the part when the three prospectors were going to kill the newcomer (played by Bruce Bennett, the onetime movie Tarzan) because he wanted a cut? They were all consumed by greed -- which is one of the Seven Deadly Sins.

But you may have a point because the mountain range was a clear winner. It reclaimed its own property.

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Yeah, well, I'll STILL only admit that Bogie treats Bruce Bennett a heck of a lot worse in THIS flick than he does in Sahara, anyway.  ;)

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In Night of Terror ( 1933) the Maniac is not caught at the end of the movie he warns the audience not to reveal the ending or else he'll hurt them.

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3 hours ago, Marysara1 said:

In Night of Terror ( 1933) the Maniac is not caught at the end of the movie he warns the audience not to reveal the ending or else he'll hurt them.

Isn't The Bat Whispers (1930) ending similar? I'm not sure how the silent (1926) version, called The Bat, ends. Though these are not really horror films, they're sort of part of the genre.

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