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Bernie Sanders Joins the 2020 Presidential Race

Senator Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent and 2016 Democratic primary runner-up whose populist policy agenda has helped push the party to the left, announced on Tuesday that he was running for president again, embarking on a bid that would test whether he could retain the anti-establishment appeal he enjoyed with many liberal voters three years ago.

A self-styled democratic socialist whose calls for “Medicare for all,” a $15 minimum wage and tuition-free public colleges have become pillars of the party’s left wing, Mr. Sanders is among the best-known politicians to join an already crowded Democratic field and one of the most outspoken against President Trump, whom he has repeatedly called a “pathological liar” and a “racist.”

“Three years ago, during our 2016 campaign, when we brought forth our progressive agenda we were told that our ideas were ‘radical’ and ‘extreme,’” Mr. Sanders said on Tuesday in an early-morning email to supporters, citing those health, economic and education policies as well as combating climate change and raising taxes on wealthy Americans.

“Well, three years have come and gone. And, as result of millions of Americans standing up and fighting back, all of these policies and more are now supported by a majority of Americans,” he said.

Mr. Sanders did not immediately announce where he would campaign first, nor did he disclose any staffing decisions for his political operation. His senior advisers have been spending the weeks leading up to the announcement attempting to recruit a more diverse array of aides than were on his earlier campaign.

A sensation in 2016, Mr. Sanders is facing a far different electoral landscape this time around. Unlike his last bid for the White House, when he was the only liberal challenger to an establishment-backed front-runner, he will be contending with a crowded and diverse field of candidates, including popular Democrats like Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts who have adopted his populist mantle.

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Bernie is running again on the same issues? Good luck with that one.

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If he chooses Tulsi Gabbard as his running mate, they could possibly generate the kind of excitement he did last time.

That's a ticket that could give Trump a run.

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This geriatric twit won't stop, will he? Yeah, I'm sure he'll totally win this time around! :lol: 

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2 minutes ago, Gershwin fan said:

This geriatric twit won't stop, will he? Yeah, I'm sure he'll totally win this time around! :lol: 

Sanders has had a major influence on the Dem party;  The Dem candidate that wins the nomination will likely have run on a platform very similar to what is listed above as Sanders' 2020 agenda.   

   

 

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1 minute ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Sanders has had a major influence on the Dem party;  The Dem candidate that wins the nomination will likely have run on a platform very similar to what is listed above as Sanders' 2020 agenda.   

   

 

Unlikely and even if the nominee did that, the rest of the established Dems would oppose it.

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the msm surely won't run his last campaign rally the nite Hillary clinched it and sanders prophetically proclaimed that "Donald Trump will never be president".

lets hear that one again.

:lol:

 

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Natalie ShureVerified account @nataliesurely 8h8 hours ago

 
 

Bernie has his problems as a candidate, and I really would love a woman president!

 

But his politics are substantively better than the rest of the field

and he has by far the most credible commitment to class struggle and leftist reforms this country indisputably needs right now

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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8 hours ago, NipkowDisc said:

the msm surely won't run his last campaign rally the nite Hillary clinched it and sanders prophetically proclaimed that "Donald Trump will never be president".

lets hear that one again.

:lol:

 

First I want to hear the progress that Mitch McConnell has made on making Obama a one-term president.

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17 hours ago, darkblue said:

If he chooses Tulsi Gabbard as his running mate, they could possibly generate the kind of excitement he did last time.

That's a ticket that could give Trump a run.

Unfortunately for the Democrats, by the time the 2020 election comes around, there probably won't be a whole lot of people who are not ashamed to vote Democrat.

Not enough, anyway.

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1 hour ago, darkblue said:

Unfortunately for the Democrats, by the time the 2020 election comes around, there probably won't be a whole lot of people who are not ashamed to vote Democrat.

Not enough, anyway.

Yeh, just like last year.

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19 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Jeff SteinVerified account @JStein_WaPo 8h8 hours ago

 
 

Sanders' 2020 agenda, per aides:

 

- Medicare 4 All - Green New Deal/climate - $15 min wage - Criminal justice reform - Free college

- Break up biggest banks - Gender pay equity - Paid leave - ⬇ Drug prices - Expand Social Security - Save unions - DREAM Act

That should easily get Trump re-elected.  As a life-long Democrat, it sure scares the hell out of me.

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1 hour ago, TheCid said:

That should easily get Trump re-elected.  As a life-long Democrat, it sure scares the hell out of me.

A President can't implement these polices using an executive order.   Therefore I see little to fear.   I don't see the Dems getting to 60 Senators anytime soon (if ever).     Therefore any actual legislation would be toned-down  (or more likely NOT even passed).

But what does scare the hell out of me is the POV you stated that you would rather have Trump as President than any of what you call far-left-of-Obama Dems.     I find you to be reasonable and intelligent,  but if you have that POV it should be easy for Trump to convince voters that lack your wisdom in those battleground states that will again decide the outcome.

 

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5 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

A President can't implement these polices using an executive order.   Therefore I see little to fear.   I don't see the Dems getting to 60 Senators anytime soon (if ever).     Therefore any actual legislation would be toned-down  (or more likely NOT even passed).

But what does scare the hell out of me is the POV you stated that you would rather have Trump as President than any of what you call far-left-of-Obama Dems.     I find you to be reasonable and intelligent,  but if you have that POV it should be easy for Trump to convince voters that lack your wisdom in those battleground states that will again decide the outcome.

 

What scares me and would cause me to hold my nose and vote for Trump is that a far left president, Sanders or one of the others, would so disrupt the political process and government as to enable it even less effective than it is now.

While you are correct about how many Senators and Representatives would have to vote for these extreme policies, a lot of time would be wasted that could be better spent on something else.  In addition, what few moderate Republicans remain and the moderate Democrats in Congress would be caught in the cross hairs of doing what is right for America and the people vs. protecting the idiot in the White House.  Sort of like what we have with Trump.

"but if you have that POV it should be easy for Trump to convince voters that lack your wisdom in those battleground states that will again decide the outcome."  Exactly my point.

Incidentally, it doesn't take 60 Senators, only 50+the veep. As we have seen, the majority leader can easily do away with the 60 vote requirement.  Regardless, you have more  faith in the wisdom of Dems in the House and Senate than I do at this time.  After all the argument was that the GOPers in the House and Senate would restrain Trump.  Well, we know what happened with that.

The old adage about voting for the idiot we know vs. the idiot we don't know may apply. 

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17 minutes ago, TheCid said:

What scares me and would cause me to hold my nose and vote for Trump is that a far left president, Sanders or one of the others, would so disrupt the political process and government as to enable it even less effective than it is now.

I agree that someone like Klobuchar leading the executive branch would be more likely to get things done with Congress.     

But I don't see how the political process and government could be less effective then it is now with Trump leading the executive branch.     As for Dems in the House and Senate;  most of the newcomers,  and almost everyone that defeated a GOP incumbent are 'moderate' or just lean-left;  I.e. they are NOT self described democratic socialist, like AOC (who defeated a moderate Dem in the primary).

What members of Congress care about most is winning the next election,  and I believe there will be enough 'I can't support something so radical and win the next election' Dems in Congress  in 2020 to control a too-far-left Dem President.

PS:  I still find it funny that you define the items that Sanders, Harris,  etc.. support as extreme politics (it appears you agree with Trump's talking point here).   Just another example of how were we live influences how we label such policies (because here is super-blue CA,  these ideas have been kicked around for decades).

   

 

 

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"James said:  "What members of Congress care about most is winning the next election,  and I believe there will be enough 'I can't support something so radical and win the next election' Dems in Congress  in 2020 to control a too-far-left Dem President."

Where are they now?  I haven't heard any Dems. in office saying they can't support the proposals extreme left of center Dems. running for president are espousing.

 

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8 minutes ago, TheCid said:

"James said:  "What members of Congress care about most is winning the next election,  and I believe there will be enough 'I can't support something so radical and win the next election' Dems in Congress  in 2020 to control a too-far-left Dem President."

Where are they now?  I haven't heard any Dems. in office saying they can't support the proposals extreme left of center Dems. running for president are espousing.

 

Come on Cid,  you really don't know the answer to your own question?????    What good (or value),  would it be for a Dem in Congress to call-out Warren,  Harris,  etc..  TODAY,  as being too radical?    The main goal for all members of the Dem  party is to defeat Trump.   Throwing a Dem candidate under the bus, that might end up being the Dem nominee, only assist Trump and the GOP  (as well as supporting the narrative that the Dems have moved too far to the left).

 

   

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1 minute ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Come on Cid,  you really don't know the answer to your own question?????    What good (or value),  would it be for a Dem in Congress to call-out Warren,  Harris,  etc..  TODAY,  as being too radical?    The main goal for all members of the Dem  party is to defeat Trump.   Throwing a Dem candidate under the bus, that might end up being the Dem nominee, only assist Trump and the GOP  (as well as supporting the narrative that the Dems have moved too far to the left).

 

   

But where are they now?  You seem to be inferring that it is OK for Dems in power to remain quiet and thereby not question the extremist Dems. thereby lending support to the GOP argument that the Dem party will be the ruination of America by creating a socialist nation and bankrupting the government.  Not my opinion, but it would be fodder for lots and lots of GOP ads.

If one of the extremist Dems wins the nomination, the voters will decide that the Dem party has moved too far to the left.  That argument has worked in countless GOP vs. Dem elections throughout the nation.  2016 being one.

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14 minutes ago, TheCid said:

But where are they now?  You seem to be inferring that it is OK for Dems in power to remain quiet and thereby not question the extremist Dems. thereby lending support to the GOP argument that the Dem party will be the ruination of America by creating a socialist nation and bankrupting the government.  Not my opinion, but it would be fodder for lots and lots of GOP ads.

If one of the extremist Dems wins the nomination, the voters will decide that the Dem party has moved too far to the left.  That argument has worked in countless GOP vs. Dem elections throughout the nation.  2016 being one.

I answered 'where are they now';   remaining silent and on the sidelines since they don't wish to contribute to the narrative that the Dems are a fractured party.     It looks like were we see things differently is that you believe by questioning the extremist Dems NOW,  it helps undo the GOP narrative of 'creating a socialist nation etc....   My view is that if "moderate" Dems spoke up NOW it would cause Harris,  Sander, Warren, etc...  to fight back and that would just seal-the-deal that these politicians are indeed far-left and that the Dem party is indeed fractured.

I agree with your last paragraph: Like I said before the way the Dems changed the primary (no super delegates, CA moved up to March,   proportional allocation of delegates),  increases the odds an 'extremist' Dem will win the nomination and that Trump pulls off another close contest (losing the popular vote by an even wider margin).

Note that CNN has run a few articles about Klobuchar;   Most imply that while she is the most likely to beat Trump (by being moderate,  mid-westerner etc...)  she doesn't represent the majority of Dem voters and therefore is a sellout candidate.       

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