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Is Criticizing Israel Anti-Semitic.?

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- part of Kushner's Mid-East Peace Plan??  :blink:

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US officials vow support for Israel at AIPAC conference

Gathering takes place at a time when there is a widening political divide in the US over the Israel-Palestine conflict.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/officials-vow-support-israel-aipac-conference-190326012020961.html?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c998b449ebbef0001f24b97&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

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Israeli group says network of bots is stumping for Netanyahu-

"... they uncovered hundreds of fake accounts spreading messages in support of Netanyahu’s Likud party and smearing his opponents. ....

“One person might be operating tens or hundreds of accounts at the same time,” he told The Associated Press. “All these accounts are pushing their political agenda, not only that but also inciting hate speech, attacking very specific people who are opposed to their political agenda.”

He said this appeared to be a violation of Twitter’s terms of use......

 

Israelis head to the polls in eight days in a close race between Netanyahu and his main rival, former army chief of staff Benny Gantz. Netanyahu is seeking a fifth term in office under the shadow of corruption charges....

The campaign has focused largely on personal attacks between the two front-runners, with Gantz taking aim at Netanyahu’s alleged ethical lapses, and Netanyahu painting Gantz as a weak “leftist.”....

https://apnews.com/52022c0fcf35460fbd6299edd05366a7?utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter

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Netanyahu, Trump and Putin: A love story -

The Israeli prime minister has worked hard to grow his political bromance with the presidents of Russia and the US.

"....It was an easy alliance on a personal level. Benjamin, Donald and Vladimir actually seem to like one another and are on the record praising each other. They may have different pasts and different styles, but they are made of the same fabric.

The three old white men are macho populist nationalists with a mean streak. They're widely seen as deceptive, polarising figures, with a knack for acting with impunity. They also dislike free press and an active independent judiciary.

The trio's original rallying cause, their ultimate nemesis, the man they hated most is none other than Barack Obama and everything he represented: be it multiculturalism, liberal ideals or liberal foreign policy.......

 

Netanyahu on the occupied Syrian Golan Heights and called on the Trump administration to recognise the Israeli annexation. 

Trump obliged happily, disregarding international law and traditional US policy in the process. In response, Putin did nothing and apparently said nothing about it during his last summit meeting with Netanyahu.

Russia might have needed some courting, but Netanyahu couldn't have dreamt of a better partner at the White House. Trump has totally embraced Israel's position on Iran, and the occupation of Jerusalem and the Golan Heights.

Next comes the West Bank. Netanyahu promised last week that he will begin the annexation of the occupied Palestinian territories if he wins the elections. And again, expect Trump to lend his support, and Putin to lend his silence.

In sum, Netanyahu might have failed so far to get the US and Russia to work together to reshape the Middle East, but he has clearly succeeded in getting Trump and Putin to work for Israel as it reshapes the Eastern Mediterranean.

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/netanyahu-trump-putin-love-story-190408095633979.html?fbclid=IwAR1IKLTNXrl-Ngz67ZvfqfwjWxwsW5-r5Zb7VDnDYO_G9x776VK1vmP0c8M

 

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Ilhan OmarVerified account @IlhanMN

Stephen Miller is a white nationalist.

The fact that he still has influence on policy and political appointments is an outrage.

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Lee ZeldinVerified account @RepLeeZeldin

 

During my time in Congress before @IlhanOmar got here, I didn't once witness another Member target Jewish people like this with the name calling & other personal attacks. In 2019 though, for @IlhanOmar, this is just called Monday.

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Mehdi HasanVerified account @mehdirhasan 10h10 hours ago

 

Not a word from Zeldin about the Trump fan arrested last week for trying to kill Omar.

Not a word from Zeldin about the president telling US Jews that Netanyahu is their prime minister.

Not a word from Zeldin about the president calling Adam Schiff, who is Jewish, Adam Schitt.

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Donald Trump Jr.Verified account @DonaldJTrumpJr

 

I see that the head of the Farrakhan Fan Club, @IlhanMN, took a short break from spewing her usual anti-semitic bigotry today to accuse a Jewish man of being a “white nationalist” because she apparently has no shame.

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Qasim Rashid, Esq.Verified account @QasimRashid 7h7 hours ago

 
 

Is Stephen Miller racist?

Miller’s classmates: Yes •MAGAs: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Miller’s Rabbi: Yes •MAGAs: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Miller’s Uncle: Yes •MAGAs: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Rep Ilhan Omer: Yes •MAGAs:🤬HOW DARE YOU?! 🤔

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The InterceptVerified account @theintercept 57m57 minutes ago

 
 

On the eve of the election, Benjamin Netanyahu had appealed to ultranationalist voters

by promising to annex large parts of the occupied West Bank, where more than 400,000 Israelis live in Jewish-only settlements

that are illegal under international law.

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Netanyahu Set for Victory as Israelis Vote for Never-Ending Military Rule of Palestinians

 

https://theintercept.com/2019/04/10/netanyahu-set-victory-israelis-vote-never-ending-military-rule-palestinians/

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Right-Wing Israeli Author Writes “The Virtue of Nationalism” — and Accidentally Exposes Its Pitfalls

".... Nationalism has a reputation for starting wars, a painful historical legacy that caused the idea to fall out of favor. But “The Virtue of Nationalism” makes the case for embracing it again as a positive force. Hazony argues that nationalism is the only defense against “imperialism” — defined today, by Hazony and some other nationalists, as the tyranny of universal values and liberal international organizations like the United Nations, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and the International Criminal Court. The book is a rallying cry against a world of universal rights and laws.

It calls instead for each individual nation to govern itself as it sees fit. Such an arrangement will bring greater peace to the world, Hazony suggests, as each country focuses on tending its own garden instead of going on ideological adventures abroad. ...

 

Despite the incredible international support extended to Israel over the years, Hazony feels that recent criticisms of its abuses amount to “a shaming campaign of a kind that few nations have historically experienced.”

For this insult, he’s ready to cast all the liberal institutions of the world — the ones that have been sustaining and defending Israel for decades — as its mortal enemies. He appears positively gleeful about the potential destruction of liberal internationalism at the hands of the new nationalist vanguard. .......

 

.... This version of anti-imperialism is distinct from its left-wing variant. Right-wing anti-imperialism holds that outsiders have no legitimate interest in what countries do within their own borders. Unlike liberals and leftists, they recoil from the idea of global standards for human rights and governance. In their worldview, the major imperialists of today are the international institutions that seek to impose such standards — notably the EU and the U.N. .......

Alongside Israel, there are two other countries Hazony claims have been similarly victimized by the shaming campaigns of liberals and globalists: apartheid South Africa and Serbia under the dictatorship of Slobodan Milosevic. .....

It’s a monumental irony, however, to see people in small, isolated countries like Israel now openly express nostalgia for the old world of nationalism. If history is any guide, they should be careful what they wish for. "

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/05/israel-virture-of-nationalism-book/

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Six GOP House Members Who Need to Resign for Anti-Semitism Before Ilhan Omar

".......Trump said that “anti-Semitism has no place in the United States Congress.” I agree with him.

But here’s his problem: The modern GOP is riddled with bigots, Islamophobes, and anti-Semites.

If the president wants Omar to resign from Congress over alleged anti-Semitism, here are six Republican members of the House, including the two most senior members of the GOP leadership, who need to resign first.....

 

“the furor over @IlhanMN’s tweets isn’t about policing bigotry or even anti-Semitism.

It’s about policing the American debate over Israel.”

I would go further: It’s also about smearing and demonizing women of color, especially Muslim women of color, in the Democratic Party. .........

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/15/ilhan-omar-aipac-republicans-anti-semitism/

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1 hour ago, mr6666 said:

Six GOP House Members Who Need to Resign for Anti-Semitism Before Ilhan Omar

".......Trump said that “anti-Semitism has no place in the United States Congress.” I agree with him.

But here’s his problem: The modern GOP is riddled with bigots, Islamophobes, and anti-Semites.

If the president wants Omar to resign from Congress over alleged anti-Semitism, here are six Republican members of the House, including the two most senior members of the GOP leadership, who need to resign first.....

 

“the furor over @IlhanMN’s tweets isn’t about policing bigotry or even anti-Semitism.

It’s about policing the American debate over Israel.”

I would go further: It’s also about smearing and demonizing women of color, especially Muslim women of color, in the Democratic Party. .........

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/15/ilhan-omar-aipac-republicans-anti-semitism/

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why should debate regarding Israel be policed at all?

and who decides the policing? liberal democrats?

why? 

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11 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:

why should debate regarding Israel be policed at all?

and who decides the policing? liberal democrats?

why? 

Are you kidding? Nearly all of the accusations of Antisemitism leveled have been from Republicans attacking the Democrats for daring to criticize anything Israel's government says or does. Look to your own house for those doing the "policing".

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https://www.rt.com/op-ed/460228-anti-semitic-bds-israel-zizek/

Zizek: Labeling BDS ‘anti-Semitic’ desecrates the Holocaust in order to legitimize apartheid

The (rather clumsy) irony of the ad is clear: Shaked’s left-liberal critics attack her for (what they perceive as) the fascist elements in her program (and in the measures enforced by her ministry). But in her reply to these critics, she ironically assumes the term ‘fascist,’ while the voice lists her actual measures which are democratic.

Although Shaked tried to overcome Netanyahu from the right, Netanyahu took the same path in his statements on Instagram where, after asserting that all citizens of Israel, including Arabs, had equal rights, he added: “Israel is not a state of all its citizens.” This referred to the controversial law passed last year declaring Israel to be the nation state of the Jewish people.

Yet, we would come closer to truth if we simply turned Shaked’s ad on its head – she instead sprays herself with a perfume called “democracy” while a narrator enumerates her achievements: the apartheid system with second-class citizens, leaving more than a million of Palestinians in a legal limbo, bombings of civilians… and then a passer-by (not Shaked herself) comments: “Smells like Fascism to me.

The true political goal of the ongoing campaign against BDS is to legitimize the stance shared by Shaked and Netanyahu. Our answer to all those who support this campaign should thus be: those who are not ready to criticize the apartheid politics of the state of Israel should also keep silent about the possible excesses of BDS.    

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referencing/ criticizing this Israeli political ad

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Gershom Gorenberg @GershomG 2h2 hours ago

 
 

Shock new election in #Israel : It's all about the graft charges against Netanyahu and his increasingly desperate effort to evade them. My latest @theprospect - https://prospect.org/article/netanyahus-desperation-one-certainty-left-israel  @lrozen

 

Netanyahu's Desperation Is the One Certainty Left in Israel

The surprise new election shows just how unpredictable a legally cornered leader can be.

......the threat of three major indictments for graft hanging over Netanyahu. Less than two months after Netanyahu's apparent election victory, his attempts to form a coalition failed either because of personal animosities or because of a crack-up in the usual alliance of secular rightists and clerical parties. 

In reality, though, Netanyahu's legal problems explain both his failure to form a government and his rush to new elections...........

https://prospect.org/article/netanyahus-desperation-one-certainty-left-israel

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Ron DeSantis signs bill banning anti-Semitism in schools

The first bill signed in Florida history on foreign soil.

 

JERUSALEM — Gov. Ron DeSantis signed legislation Wednesday in Jerusalem banning anti-Semitism in Florida’s public schools.

The legislation was effective upon signing, the first bill in Florida history signed on foreign soil.

The Governor was flanked by leading legislators and Cabinet members, a symbol of the enthusiastic support for this legislation among elected officials.

By his side while he signed the bill was state Rep. Randy Fine, the House sponsor of the legislation whose efforts were key to the bill becoming law.

Fine, who is Jewish, told a story about how he was in seventh grade and failed algebra because he missed a test on Yom Kippur, which his teacher said wasn’t a real holiday.

“I swore when my boys were born that wouldn’t happen to them,” Fine said before recounting stories of anti-Semitic words and deeds in public schools today.

“Every single member voted for this without a no vote,” Fine said, “because of the men and women they are.

DeSantis noted that there was “uniform agreement” in standing against anti-Semitism.

“This bill is very clear about what we’re talking about,” DeSantis said, regarding use of tax dollars in public education institutions.

“I think it sends a strong statement about where Florida is,” the Governor added, noting security funding in the new budget.

The bill was framed as a deterrent measure by the Governor, against institutions or rogue instructors “trying to spew anti-Semitism.”

“Maybe it dissuades … offers a course correction,” DeSantis said.

“It is limited to the K-20 context … it’s got to be administered consistent with the First Amendment,” the Governor added.

Added Fine: “Whatever the policy is regarding race, [schools] have to treat anti-Semitism the same way,” regarding such content in classrooms.

Fine also noted the bill does not ban criticism of Israel, but “when you single out Israel … or use anti-Semitic quotes, that is anti-Semitic.”

Holocaust denial is another example of anti-Semitism: “What interest does a Florida education institution have in hiring somebody who denies the Holocaust,” the Governor added.

Lawmakers passed the bill (HB 741) unanimously last month and sent it to DeSantis’ desk last week. He has long been expected to sign the bill during the Israel trip.

The law adds religion as a protected class in the state education system. It requires any religious discrimination against students or employees to be treated in the same manner as other protected classes.

Prior to DeSantis’ signature, those protected classes were race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, marital status and disability.

Most lawmakers agreed with the core of the bill, sponsored by Fine, though it was not without controversy.

Notably, Senate Democratic Leader Audrey Gibson of Jacksonville voted against the measure in committee, citing the bill’s focus on anti-Semitism rather than broader religious discrimination. She later reversed her stance, though others have echoed those concerns since the bill’s passage.

In late April, a group of about 30 prominent Jewish Floridians sent a letter to DeSantis saying the bill goes too far by equating criticism of the Israeli government with anti-Semitism.

Their opposition is based on the examples of anti-Semitism included in the legislation, such as “[a]pplying a double standard to Israel by requiring behavior of Israel that is not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation, or focusing peace or human rights investigations only on Israel.”

Fine has brushed those concerns aside: “There are 700,000 Jews in Florida. The fact that 32 don’t want to ensure their own children and grandchildren be protected in school is disappointing, but not news,” he said at the time.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/297275-desantis-signs-anti-semitism-bill

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On 5/30/2019 at 5:57 PM, LawrenceA said:

Ron DeSantis signs bill banning anti-Semitism in schools

The first bill signed in Florida history on foreign soil.

 

JERUSALEM — Gov. Ron DeSantis signed legislation Wednesday in Jerusalem banning anti-Semitism in Florida’s public schools.

The legislation was effective upon signing, the first bill in Florida history signed on foreign soil.

The Governor was flanked by leading legislators and Cabinet members, a symbol of the enthusiastic support for this legislation among elected officials.

By his side while he signed the bill was state Rep. Randy Fine, the House sponsor of the legislation whose efforts were key to the bill becoming law.

Fine, who is Jewish, told a story about how he was in seventh grade and failed algebra because he missed a test on Yom Kippur, which his teacher said wasn’t a real holiday.

“I swore when my boys were born that wouldn’t happen to them,” Fine said before recounting stories of anti-Semitic words and deeds in public schools today.

“Every single member voted for this without a no vote,” Fine said, “because of the men and women they are.

DeSantis noted that there was “uniform agreement” in standing against anti-Semitism.

“This bill is very clear about what we’re talking about,” DeSantis said, regarding use of tax dollars in public education institutions.

“I think it sends a strong statement about where Florida is,” the Governor added, noting security funding in the new budget.

The bill was framed as a deterrent measure by the Governor, against institutions or rogue instructors “trying to spew anti-Semitism.”

“Maybe it dissuades … offers a course correction,” DeSantis said.

“It is limited to the K-20 context … it’s got to be administered consistent with the First Amendment,” the Governor added.

Added Fine: “Whatever the policy is regarding race, [schools] have to treat anti-Semitism the same way,” regarding such content in classrooms.

Fine also noted the bill does not ban criticism of Israel, but “when you single out Israel … or use anti-Semitic quotes, that is anti-Semitic.”

Holocaust denial is another example of anti-Semitism: “What interest does a Florida education institution have in hiring somebody who denies the Holocaust,” the Governor added.

Lawmakers passed the bill (HB 741) unanimously last month and sent it to DeSantis’ desk last week. He has long been expected to sign the bill during the Israel trip.

The law adds religion as a protected class in the state education system. It requires any religious discrimination against students or employees to be treated in the same manner as other protected classes.

Prior to DeSantis’ signature, those protected classes were race, ethnicity, national origin, gender, marital status and disability.

Most lawmakers agreed with the core of the bill, sponsored by Fine, though it was not without controversy.

Notably, Senate Democratic Leader Audrey Gibson of Jacksonville voted against the measure in committee, citing the bill’s focus on anti-Semitism rather than broader religious discrimination. She later reversed her stance, though others have echoed those concerns since the bill’s passage.

In late April, a group of about 30 prominent Jewish Floridians sent a letter to DeSantis saying the bill goes too far by equating criticism of the Israeli government with anti-Semitism.

Their opposition is based on the examples of anti-Semitism included in the legislation, such as “[a]pplying a double standard to Israel by requiring behavior of Israel that is not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation, or focusing peace or human rights investigations only on Israel.”

Fine has brushed those concerns aside: “There are 700,000 Jews in Florida. The fact that 32 don’t want to ensure their own children and grandchildren be protected in school is disappointing, but not news,” he said at the time.

https://floridapolitics.com/archives/297275-desantis-signs-anti-semitism-bill

Who paid for them to go to Israel to sign the bill?

More importantly, does the bill specifically only cover antisemitism against Jews and/or Israel?  Or does it cover all religious discrimination, to include Muslim, Satanist, Wicca, etc.?

Not sure, but I believe technically Arabs (and most Muslims) are considered Semites as it refers to an ethnic or geographic origin and not necessarily a religious one.

Can see lots of court cases over this one.

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Barak RavidVerified account @BarakRavid

 

BREAKING: Netanyahu reveals in his defeat speech: "I proposed to Trump & Putin to form a U.S.-Russia-Israel trilateral committee that will meet in Jerusalem to discuss the security situation in the Middle East & both of them agreed. This is unprecedented"

2:27 PM - 29 May 2019
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Seth AbramsonVerified account @SethAbramson 12h12 hours ago
 
 

In 2016 a man from Netanyahu's office introduced Trump's campaign to an Israeli business intel expert who

offered a digital disinformation scheme to Trump that was identical to what Russia had done, was doing, and would do.

Don Jr. said yes.

Think now that that was a coincidence?

see: https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1134432853293457409

 

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God, Gas, and Cash: How Texas Fell in Love With Israel

— and Then Trampled on the Constitution

 

"....The May 2018 trip to Israel would not be Texas politicians’ first — Gov. Greg Abbott, for one, flew to Israel on casino magnate Sheldon Adelson’s private jet in 2016.

But it was unique in at least one crucial way: The trip was organized by the American Legislative Exchange Council, or ALEC, according to records obtained by the Center for Media and Democracy and reviewed by The Intercept. The right-wing group of over 2,000 state legislators, lobbyists, and corporate backers writes legislation to be exported to statehouses around the country and has largely focused on issues like “stand your ground” gun laws and voter suppression efforts.

By leading a delegation to Israel, ALEC was opening up a new front, demonstrating the extent to which support for Israel has become a central part of the GOP’s policy agenda, especially in Texas.......

 

Texas has become one of the most pro-Israel states in the country. It has forged ties with Israeli settlements and aggressively enforced a law targeting advocates of boycotting Israel.

Its exports to Israel last year topped $900 million, and its imports from Israel are valued at $1.5 billion, according to the Texas Economic Development Corporation, making Texas the fourth biggest Israeli trade partner in the U.S. (Florida, however, is now competing with Texas over supporting Israel: ..........

 

Texas’ Christian right has, through its political activism, helped give credence to what most of the world considers illegitimate: Israeli settlements in the Palestinian West Bank and East Jerusalem.

The Israeli military wrested control of those areas in 1967, and as the settlements have expanded over the past 52 years, the rights of the native Palestinians have eroded. ....

Sen. Jose Rodriguez, a Democrat from El Paso who was one of the few to oppose HB 89, said the bill “aim to silence political expression, and do so at a financial cost that also erodes First Amendment rights. If a company can do the highest quality job at the lowest cost to the state, and we refuse to hire that company, Texas taxpayers pay more.”

But for Abbott, the Texas governor, the bill was a political winner that pleased a key part of the Republican base that put him in power and major campaign donors to his campaign and the GOP in Texas........

https://theintercept.com/2019/06/01/israel-texas-government-relationship/

 

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Sara Netanyahu Agrees To Pay $15,000 Over $100,000 Catering Scandal

 

....... the wife of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's, has agreed to pay about $15,000 as part of a plea deal to settle allegations that she improperly spent some $100,000 in catering at the prime minister's residence. ...

 

The catering imbroglio is just one of multiple scandals that have engulfed the Netanyahu family. Benjamin Netanyahu was re-elected in April under the cloud of a possible indictment on corruption charges. Israel's attorney general has been studying three corruption cases in which the prime minister allegedly accepted gifts from wealthy businessmen or traded favors for positive media coverage. ....

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/12/731993907/sara-netanyahu-agrees-to-pay-15-000-over-100-000-catering-scandal?utm_medium=social&amp;utm_term=nprnews&amp;utm_source=twitter.com&amp;utm_campaign=npr

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31 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Sara Netanyahu Agrees To Pay $15,000 Over $100,000 Catering Scandal

 

....... the wife of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's, has agreed to pay about $15,000 as part of a plea deal to settle allegations that she improperly spent some $100,000 in catering at the prime minister's residence. ...

 

The catering imbroglio is just one of multiple scandals that have engulfed the Netanyahu family. Benjamin Netanyahu was re-elected in April under the cloud of a possible indictment on corruption charges. Israel's attorney general has been studying three corruption cases in which the prime minister allegedly accepted gifts from wealthy businessmen or traded favors for positive media coverage. ....

https://www.npr.org/2019/06/12/731993907/sara-netanyahu-agrees-to-pay-15-000-over-100-000-catering-scandal?utm_medium=social&amp;utm_term=nprnews&amp;utm_source=twitter.com&amp;utm_campaign=npr

Of course it is always the wife that is the one committing such crimes.     Just ask Duncan Hunter! 

(I guess I should be happy these scumbags don't blame the hired help).

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On 5/30/2019 at 5:57 PM, LawrenceA said:

Gov. Ron DeSantis signed legislation Wednesday in Jerusalem

Is there a Jerusalem, Florida?  :D

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Pete Buttigieg and Joe Biden Condemn Israeli Occupation, as Young American Jews Urge Democrats to Press Israel

 

........“The occupation has to end,” Buttigieg replied, to applause.

He went on to note that even Ariel Sharon, a right-wing Israeli prime minister, not only called for an end to the occupation in 2003, but told Israelis bluntly: “It is occupation, you might not like this word, but it’s really an occupation.”

IfNotNow welcomed Buttigieg’s remarks, while noting that it was a departure from more conservative positions he has taken in the past, and said that its members still need to hear how he, and other candidates, “will use American leverage to pressure Israel to end the Occupation.”....

Asked for a final time what concrete actions he would take “to support the freedom and dignity of Palestinians living under occupation,” Biden again put the onus first on the occupied people. “I will tell them to accept the notion that Israel has the right to exist,” Biden said, “and I will insist on Israel, which I’ve done, to stop the occupation of those territories, period.”

https://theintercept.com/2019/07/13/pete-buttigieg-joe-biden-condemn-israeli-occupation-young-american-jews-urge-democrats-press-israel/

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