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Bette's daughter B.D. Hyman posted this video on YouTube. It's part of her ministry.

 

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4 minutes ago, TopBilled said:

Bette's daughter B.D. Hyman posted this video on YouTube. It's part of her ministry.

 

BD has made her mother's celebrity a cottage industry.

I can say that she's not the only one because Lorna Luft has done the same thing.

The only difference is that Lorna has some talent to offer the public and, in all fairness to Lorna, she had a hard time and was left to deal with a lot of adult stuff that she had no control over as a child.

However, as far as I know, BD was treated rather well and given a substantial amount of support during her mother's lifetime.

Apparently she's bitter about her mother being a control freak. But if that's the case, then she's no different from probably millions of other baby boomers in America.

When you see people like BD, you just have to say most movie star children behave better and have gone on to live their own lives in relative privacy.

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2 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

BD has made her mother's celebrity a cottage industry.

I can say that she's not the only one because Lorna Luft has done the same thing.

The only difference is that Lorna has some talent to offer the public and, in all fairness to Lorna, she had a hard time and was left to deal with a lot of adult stuff that she had no control over as a child.

However, as far as I know, BD was treated rather well and given a substantial amount of support during her mother's lifetime.

Apparently she's bitter about her mother being a control freak. But if that's the case, then she's no different from probably millions of other baby boomers in America.

When you see people like BD, you just have to say most movie star children behave better and have gone on to live their own lives in relative privacy.

I find B.D. a very interesting person. I don't agree with everything she's said or done, but I can understand that she had her own truth she needed to speak. And on some level I respect it. 

I do think it's quite sad that they reached a point where they had no contact. Bette gave up on the grandsons before her death since she cut them out of the will too. I'm sure that was a difficult thing for all of them.

B.D. and her husband Jeremy have been married for over 55 years. B.D. is 71 and Jeremy is 84.

These videos that B.D. has posted on YouTube as part of her ministry reveal a woman who is very skilled at speaking. She has a natural ease in front of the camera, which I am sure came from her mother. Good things from Bette filtered down to her.

She does not sound like her mother but she looks a lot like her mother. 

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52 minutes ago, TopBilled said:

I find B.D. a very interesting person. I don't agree with everything she's said or done, but I can understand that she had her own truth she needed to speak. And on some level I respect it. 

I do think it's quite sad that they reached a point where they had no contact. Bette gave up on the grandsons before her death since she cut them out of the will too. I'm sure that was a difficult thing for all of them.

B.D. and her husband Jeremy have been married for over 55 years. B.D. is 71 and Jeremy is 84.

These videos that B.D. has posted on YouTube as part of her ministry reveal a woman who is very skilled at speaking. She has a natural ease in front of the camera, which I am sure came from her mother. Good things from Bette filtered down to her.

She does not sound like her mother but she looks a lot like her mother. 

I think she looks and sounds like her mother.

I was just an elementary school kid when I first saw her in "What Ever Happened to Baby Jane?"

Contrary to popular opinion I thought she was pretty good.

The videos that I've seen in the last few years going around the internet that BD has put out have declared that her mother was some kind of a witch and practiced Witchcraft and all that sort of stuff.

I thought the book that she put out was particularly cruel and nasty.

BD was the woman's daughter and she certainly has a right to give her own opinion of her own mother. But I felt that that sort of thing should have been done in private.

Considering BD's upbringing and the good education that Bette gave her, I would be surprised if she wasn't well spoken and professional in person and on video.

 

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9 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

I thought the book that she put out was particularly cruel and nasty.

There was a second book, written two years later, which covers the controversy of the first book...and how B.D., her husband and her kids dealt with it. It goes into detail about their lives as born-again Christians. I am not sure when her actual ministry started. She wrote other books in the 1990s and 2000s that focused more on scripture.

Her scriptural teachings continue to the present day. Here's an audio lecture she posted called "The Jezebel Spirit."

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Well uh.... That's certainly something, I guess. :unsure:

"Most people think of witchcraft as dark arts and bubbling cauldrons... and yes, that does go on."

"The Church of Satan is alive today." 

Overall, it has a very public access, televangelist feel to it.

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1 hour ago, Gershwin fan said:

Well uh.... That's certainly something, I guess. :unsure:

"Most people think of witchcraft as dark arts and bubbling cauldrons... and yes, that does go on."

"The Church of Satan is alive today." 

Overall, it has a very public access, televangelist feel to it.

Interestingly, Bette played a witch in her last movie:

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4 hours ago, TopBilled said:

Bette's daughter B.D. Hyman posted this video on YouTube. It's part of her ministry.

 

So she's talking about Donald Twump invoking witchcraft when he bewitch's the fear of caravans at 1:55.

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...Even though she knows it's strictly taboo? Oh, sorry, that was ANITHER classic star who - allegedly - had connections to " the dark side ":-)! B.D. got married at 26? Did her mother, then, have her come out naked at the stroke of midnight after three sisters stirred the cauldron going " Double, double, toil and trouble..."?!!

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8 hours ago, TopBilled said:

...B.D. and her husband Jeremy have been married for over 55 years. B.D. is 71 and Jeremy is 84.

Well, ya know what they say, don't ya TB?!

"Misery loves company!"

Yep, THAT'S right. I think BD is one of those poor people who still seems "miserable" inside, and has been using her religious beliefs to fill something that missing within her.

(...sure, this sounds "harsh" I suppose, but THAT'S what I "believe", anyway...and unfortunately, I've seen this sort of thing WAY too damn much in my lifetime)

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25 minutes ago, Dargo said:

Well, ya know what they say, don't ya TB?!

"Misery loves company!"

Yep, THAT'S right. I think BD is one of those poor people who still seems "miserable" inside, and has been using her religious beliefs to fill something that missing within her.

(...sure, this sounds "harsh" I suppose, but THAT'S what I "believe", anyway...and unfortunately, I've seen this sort of thing WAY too damn much in my lifetime)

She definitely seems off her rocker. :wacko: Her husband must be nuts too to believe in all that "witchcraft" and "cauldrons" stuff. 

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37 minutes ago, Gershwin fan said:

She definitely seems off her rocker. :wacko: Her husband must be nuts too to believe in all that "witchcraft" and "cauldrons" stuff. 

(Okay, it's running through my head now, and the only I'll get it out is to type it: )

"They were practicing witchcraft!  And not just the women, but there were men witches too, male witches!"

"'Warlocks'."

"--It's true, I tell you!  And then they said they had to sacrifice a virgin, and they all started...y'know...looking in my direction."

"And what steps did you take?"

"Bloomin' LONG ones!"

--Benny Hill

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8 hours ago, Walter L. said:

...Even though she knows it's strictly taboo? Oh, sorry, that was ANITHER classic star who - allegedly - had connections to " the dark side ":-)! B.D. got married at 26? Did her mother, then, have her come out naked at the stroke of midnight after three sisters stirred the cauldron going " Double, double, toil and trouble..."?!!

She was married at 16. Bette gave consent. B.D.'s husband was 29 at the time of the marriage. According to the IMDb, they were married on the 31st of December 1963 in a civil ceremony then had a church ceremony four days later on the 4th of January 1964. They were married in an Episcopal church. 

B.D.'s husband was British (though I assume he became an American citizen). 

They became born again Christians in 1984. Their first son Ashley was born in 1969, and their second son Justin was born in 1977.

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6 hours ago, Dargo said:

Well, ya know what they say, don't ya TB?!

"Misery loves company!"

Yep, THAT'S right. I think BD is one of those poor people who still seems "miserable" inside, and has been using her religious beliefs to fill something that missing within her.

(...sure, this sounds "harsh" I suppose, but THAT'S what I "believe", anyway...and unfortunately, I've seen this sort of thing WAY too damn much in my lifetime)

Dargo,

I do think it's interesting that she posted a lecture on The Jezebel Spirit. So you can't help but wonder if some of her religious discussions have her mother at the root of the analysis. 

There's an audio lecture she posted two months ago called Generational Curses. Does she consider her mother a curse?

Her most recent audio lecture was posted just three days ago. That one was called What Is a Familiar Spirit?...so maybe she feels her mother's spirit is still haunting her.

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14 hours ago, TopBilled said:

I find B.D. a very interesting person. I don't agree with everything she's said or done, but I can understand that she had her own truth she needed to speak. And on some level I respect it. 

I read her book "My Mother's Keeper", thinking it might be another "Mommie Dearest" but I found B.D. to be kind of whiny and nit-picky. Whereas Joan Crawford seemed like a monster, Bette comes off more like a cranky old broad. I mean, one of B.D.'s complaints was that her mother served cold cuts at a party(oh the horror!)

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8 minutes ago, Det Jim McLeod said:

I read her book "My Mother's Keeper", thinking it might be another "Mommie Dearest" but I found B.D. to be kind of whiny and nit-picky. Whereas Joan Crawford seemed like a monster, Bette comes off more like a cranky old broad. I mean, one of B.D. complaints was that her mother served cold cuts at a party(oh the horror!)

Did you read the second book? It's called "Narrow Is the Way." It came out in 1987, two years after the first book.

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3 minutes ago, TopBilled said:

Did you read the second book? It's called "Narrow Is the Way." It came out in 1987, two years after the first book.

No, I wasn't even aware of that.

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6 hours ago, Gershwin fan said:

She definitely seems off her rocker. :wacko: Her husband must be nuts too to believe in all that "witchcraft" and "cauldrons" stuff. 

Not all her lectures are on witchcraft and cauldrons. On her website she has over 500 hours of free lectures available for the public to download. She covers a wide variety of topics, but of course, they are from the perspective of a fundamentalist Christian.

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2 minutes ago, Det Jim McLeod said:

No, I wasn't even aware of that.

It didn't do as well as the first book. It was a sequel, where she talks about how she and her family dealt with the negative publicity of the first book. She hadn't reconciled with her mother, and of course would not. They remained estranged and Bette died in 1989.

To my knowledge she hasn't written about her mother's death, though that may be referenced in the lectures she has posted.

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14 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

BD has made her mother's celebrity a cottage industry.

Absolutely. Would we even be discussing her if she wasn't Bette Davis' daughter?

14 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

I can say that she's not the only one because Lorna Luft has done the same thing.

The only difference is that Lorna has some talent to offer the public and, in all fairness to Lorna, she had a hard time and was left to deal with a lot of adult stuff that she had no control over as a child.

I just picked up Luft's book at a library sale...curious after seeing the Canadian production based on her memoirs. I found Luft's story interesting because of the unique situations she found herself because of her famous parents. She seems to simply "state the facts, ma'm" and not demonize anyone's shortcomings or hold bitterness.

14 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

However, as far as I know, BD was treated rather well and given a substantial amount of support during her mother's lifetime.

Apparently she's bitter about her mother being a control freak. But if that's the case, then she's no different from probably millions of other baby boomers in America.

I completely agree with your observations. Whenever I hear someone whine about how bad their childhood was I respond by saying, "Aren't you glad you're an ADULT and have control of your own life now?" 

Most people realize - once they grow up - their parents did the best they could. (esp if they have children themselves) Taking responsibility of your own life-it's called maturity.

Nasty, bitter stories blaming others just smacks of immaturity to me. Not a surprise BD has given her life over to religion-just a "mother" substitute.

I always thought BD was adopted, but must have been thinking about Christina Crawford. BDe is the spitting image of Bette. Haha, comparing the BD/Christina keeps the "Feud" going to a second generation.

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14 minutes ago, TikiSoo said:

Absolutely. Would we even be discussing her if she wasn't Bette Davis' daughter?

I just picked up Luft's book at a library sale...curious after seeing the Canadian production based on her memoirs. I found Luft's story interesting because of the unique situations she found herself because of her famous parents. She seems to simply "state the facts, ma'm" and not demonize anyone's shortcomings or hold bitterness.

I completely agree with your observations. Whenever I hear someone whine about how bad their childhood was I respond by saying, "Aren't you glad you're an ADULT and have control of your own life now?" 

Most people realize - once they grow up - their parents did the best they could. (esp if they have children themselves) Taking responsibility of your own life-it's called maturity.

Nasty, bitter stories blaming others just smacks of immaturity to me. Not a surprise BD has given her life over to religion-just a "mother" substitute.

I always thought BD was adopted, but must have been thinking about Christina Crawford. BDe is the spitting image of Bette. Haha, comparing the BD/Christina keeps the "Feud" going to a second generation.

Interesting post. I don't think B.D. is using religion as a substitute mother. She talks in her lectures about how women are supposed to leave their mothers and "cleave unto" their husbands. 

Also, the ironic thing about all this is that after the first book was published her father, William Sherry, reached out to her. She had never had much of a relationship with him (he divorced Bette when B.D. was about three years old). 

So starting in 1985, she did build a relationship with her father. She and her husband and their kids became very close to him. Sherry died in 1995, and according to B.D., before her father died, she rescued him from a cult where he had been an elder (I assume she's referring to Mormonism). Therefore, she ended up being close to her father, her half-siblings (Sherry had two children with his second wife) and her stepmother. 

So it could be argued that she substituted her husband, her sons, her father, and her father's family in place of her relationship with Bette. But I doubt she sees it that way. I think she sees her mother as the problematic person that tried to fracture the family. But B.D. feels she went in the opposite direction of her mother and built a strong family.

Again I'm not saying I agree with everything B.D. has written and said, but I think a lot of what has happened with her makes sense. She wanted out from under her mother's control and what she considered her mother's destructive and dysfunctional behavior. I think she was open to reconciling with her mother if Bette had come around a bit and tried to meet her on these newer terms.

However, that would have meant Bette had to sacrifice supreme ego and supreme sense of control, and Bette was unable to do this. As a result we have a daughter who really has had to make her own path, somewhat in opposition to Bette's defiance and stubbornness. This carries B.D. forward even now.

B.D.'s sons are active on social media, and they seem to be very healthy and well-adjusted. Maybe B.D.'s religion is a bit "intense" (for lack of a better word) but I don't think she's done anything terribly wrong.

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11 hours ago, Walter L. said:

...Even though she knows it's strictly taboo? Oh, sorry, that was ANITHER classic star who - allegedly - had connections to " the dark side ":-)! B.D. got married at 26? Did her mother, then, have her come out naked at the stroke of midnight after three sisters stirred the cauldron going " Double, double, toil and trouble..."?!!

Actually, B.D. was only 16 when she was married. Amazing that the marriage lasted since she was so young.

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Here's part 1 of an interview B.D. did on a talk show when the first book came out. She had already become a born again Christian by this point. I think she comes across very intelligent and logical.

 

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Here's part 2. I almost want to slap the woman in the audience who asks B.D. a question:

 

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