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One of Hollywood's iconic bars (remember when Ben shot a bit there years ago?) has re-opened after a massive, and apparently, very well done restoration. The Formosa is back in business!

https://www.wehoville.com/2019/07/09/weho-celebrates-historic-preservation-and-the-reopening-of-formosa-cafe/?fbclid=IwAR1ODPMI-5rVeT7yldhFH5PFsHsh6GmmxSBm8CnxrdD1z7gvlugLkOrNILA#comments

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Yeah, and if there's any specially reserved motorcycle parking nearby it, I might also have to visit the place while I'm back in my old stompin' grounds this coming November for that British motorcycle rally I attend each year.

Yep, just might put this on my list.

(...I know however that my buddy Phil, and whose house in the exclusive Bell Canyon area located in the farthest western part of the San Fernando Valley that I stay at every year while I'm back there, won't be goin' with me though, as every year I ask him if he would like to ride down with me on one of his bikes and into the L.A. basin and to the South Bay beach area to visit some of my old friends and old haunts, always says somethin' like, "Nope, there's no way in hell I'm gonna fight all this damn L.A. traffic just to do that", and even though you can legally lane-split in CA...guess I can't blame him though)

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The Formosa was one of the first bars that I went to on my first trip to L.A.  I remember sitting at the bar and ordering a whiskey.  The bartender began to pour and turned to talk to someone and my glass overfilled.  He apologized and mopped up the spill.  The glass was brimming.  I was forevermore impressed having just come from a country where they measure the one ounce pour to the millimetre.  

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31 minutes ago, Bogie56 said:

The Formosa was one of the first bars that I went to on my first trip to L.A.  I remember sitting at the bar and ordering a whiskey.  The bartender began to pour and turned to talk to someone and my glass overfilled.  He apologized and mopped up the spill.  The glass was brimming.  I was forevermore impressed having just come from a country where they measure the one ounce pour to the millimetre.  

LOL

Well, you Canadians ARE noted for also being a "thrifty lot" ya know, Bogie!

Now sure, I suppose some people might call this sort'a thing "cheap", but I certainly wouldn't be one of 'em. Well, not much anyway.

(...OH and btw...the correct spelling for that last word in your above post and while in the environs of Los Angeles California, and indeed throughout this country of mine, would of course have been "millimetER"...we don't spell stuff that "frenchy way" down here, ya know..no, NOT the word "stuff"...oh never mind)

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They're not calling it the Taiwan?  :D

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20 minutes ago, Fedya said:

They're not calling it the Taiwan?  :D

Well, no, Fedya.

And probably because formosa its existence, this little gin joint/eatery already had THIS name!

(...see what I did there?!) ;)

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1 hour ago, Dargo said:

LOL

Well, you Canadians ARE noted for also being a "thrifty lot" ya know, Bogie!

It's not a matter of being cheap ... Canada grew up being a police state ... literally.  

Booze of course was sinful.  Not long ago it was against the law to stand up in a bar with a drink in Canada.  If you wanted to move to another table a waiter had to bring your drink for you. You had to order food on a Sunday if you wanted an alcoholic beverage.  And of course it is still illegal to have a drink in a park unlike in Europe.

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1 hour ago, Bogie56 said:

It's not a matter of being cheap ... Canada grew up being a police state ... literally.  

Booze of course was sinful.  Not long ago it was against the law to stand up in a bar with a drink in Canada.  If you wanted to move to another table a waiter had to bring your drink for you. You had to order food on a Sunday if you wanted an alcoholic beverage.  And of course it is still illegal to have a drink in a park unlike in Europe.

Well, I dunno about a "police state" here, Bogie.

Ya see, there are locations even within the U.S. here that still have these sorts of "Blue Laws" and this being more the reason of being a leftover cultural remnant from our own original "puritan" establishment of this country. And, depending upon the specific location and how much the predominant religion within these specific locations still holds political sway, there still are some locations which still retain these sorts of restrictions here too.

(...and so in this regard, Canada and the U.S. would have much in common)

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3 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

It's not a matter of being cheap ... Canada grew up being a police state ... literally.  

Booze of course was sinful.  Not long ago it was against the law to stand up in a bar with a drink in Canada.  If you wanted to move to another table a waiter had to bring your drink for you. You had to order food on a Sunday if you wanted an alcoholic beverage.  And of course it is still illegal to have a drink in a park unlike in Europe.

It sounds to me like you guys really had its swell. I come from the state where the temperance queen of America ruled, Carrie Nation. As school children they would drive us to the museum, so we could see the ax she used to  tear up the saloons of Kansas.

We still have dry counties in Kansas. When I was growing up, you could not buy alcohol in a grocery store, or convenience store, you had to go to a liquor store.

Surprise, you still can't buy hard liquor in the grocery store or the convenience store. But they were allowed to sell the weak beer  for a long time. (3.2)

**Just this spring, they have started selling real beer in the supermarkets. ** We're really getting up-to-date here!

However, We're all hoping someday that maybe we can buy a bottle of wine in the grocery store that does not have salt and/or vinegar in it.

And years ago you could not drink hard liquor in any, restaurants or anywhere unless it was a private club and you were a member.

Plus you didn't even ask to go to buy alcohol in a liquor store on Sunday!

But keeping up with the times, all that has changed.

Today we are extremely Progressive, in that in most counties you can actually buy alcohol in the liquor store on Sunday!

We've come a long ways and I still pinch myself when I hear that the liquor stores actually stay open until Sunday evening!

 We' ve made a lot of progress here in my lifetime.

 BTW-- The liquor store owners like it just fine that you can't buy hard liquor and wine at the supermarket. LOL

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1 hour ago, Princess of Tap said:

Today we are extremely Progressive, in that in most counties you can actually buy alcohol in the liquor store on Sunday!

In Texas, liquor stores aren't open on Sundays at all, and grocery stores and convenience stores can't sell beer or wine until after noon on Sundays. "Blue laws" they call them. I don't know why! Dry counties had been a reality most of my adult life. I never seemed to get offered jobs in wet counties, and believe me, I thought about these things! Making plans ahead to drive to another county on say a Saturday to stock up with enough booze to last me for a week was a routine part of my life for many years. I finally ended up in Dallas, which since Prohibition ended had been subdivided into wet and dry districts ... and I lived in a dry district, so it was no longer a matter of having to drive to another county but at least a few miles to another district to buy alcohol. The liquor stores and the grocery stores financially backed a petition drive about 10 years ago for a referendum on making the entire city wet, and it passed overwhelmingly, so all that silliness is finally over with.

Otherwise, things sound very similar between your state and mine. I think there are still dry counties in Texas, but I don't have to deal with them anymore. Grocery stores and convenience stores used to be forbidden from selling any kind of alcohol, but now they can sell wine and beer.

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35 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:

In Texas, liquor stores aren't open on Sundays at all, and grocery stores and convenience stores can't sell beer or wine until after noon on Sundays. "Blue laws" they call them. I don't know why! Dry counties had been a reality most of my adult life. I never seemed to get offered jobs in wet counties, and believe me, I thought about these things! Making plans ahead of to drive to another county on say a Saturday to stock up with enough booze to last me for a week was a routine part of my life for many years. I finally ended up in Dallas, which since Prohibition ended had been subdivided into wet and dry districts ... and I lived in a dry district, so it was no longer a matter of having to drive to another county but at least a few miles to another district to buy alcohol. The liquor stores and the grocery stores financially backed a petition drive about 10 years ago for a referendum on making the entire city wet, and it passed overwhelmingly, so all that silliness is finally over with.

Otherwise, things sound very similar between your state and mine. I think there are still dry counties in Texas, but I don't have to deal with them anymore. Grocery stores and convenience stores used to be forbidden from selling any kind of alcohol, but now they can sell wine and beer.

What makes all of this so really crazy is that there's a state line between Kansas and Missouri in Kansas City. And all you have to do is drive your car across the state line and go to a grocery store and get whatever you want anytime you want. 

This has been going on for decades, and I think one of the reasons they're putting the hard beer in the grocery stores is because of that-- losing all those state taxes for so many years-- and also because beer is just so popular in this neck of the woods. Guys buy kegs at the liquor store and fill their Vans up with them. LOL

 My mother told me that we had Prohibition in Kansas right up to 1948. Isn't that something? She and a lot of her friends were teetotalers and didn't approve of drinking at all. 

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I used to work with a guy from Oklahoma, and he said they had a special law that limited alcohol content of beer in that state to 2.4%, I think. And this was like 2005. Your standard Coors or Miller or whatever is about 3.9 or 4.0%, I think. Budweiser is 5.0%. But the guy told me the beer manufacturers put out special 2.4% beer for sale in Oklahoma only. And that everybody who was able drove across the state line where there were of course dozens of liquor stores on the Texas side. Sounded crazy to me, bu he swore it was true. Even though I live only 60 miles south of the Oklahoma border, I never have any reason to drive that direction, so I can't really confirm. I did two years ago go to a concert at one of the casinos up there (there are no casinos in Texas). I wonder if they also have to sell that cut beer at the casinos. Possibly, since all the casinos are on reservation territory, they may be exempt.

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6 hours ago, Dargo said:

Well, I dunno about a "police state" here, Bogie.

 

Canada was literally governed by the R.C.M.P. in many places in its infancy.

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9 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

  And of course it is still illegal to have a drink in a park unlike in Europe.

But, in the movie THE SILENT PARTNER,  Elliot Gould and luscious CELINE LOMEZ share a drink from a pint bottle of whiskey in a park.  Them Toronto fuzz weren't really on the BALL, eh;)

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10 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

It's not a matter of being cheap ... Canada grew up being a police state ... literally.  

Amazing Canadians have to buy their booze from a government owned store. Wasn't it called LCBO? And aren't beer/wine/liquor separated?

Talk about "dry" areas in US: you can tour the Yuengling Brewery in PA but you can't buy & drink one unless you drive to another county!

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1 hour ago, Sepiatone said:

But, in the movie THE SILENT PARTNER,  Elliot Gould and luscious CELINE LOMEZ share a drink from a pint bottle of whiskey in a park.  Them Toronto fuzz weren't really on the BALL, eh;)

Sepiatone

They should have been pepper sprayed !!!!   

A Sunday night - parking lot in an empty park in Toronto.  A friend and I had just finished a 12 mile jog.  He cracked two beers that he had in the trunk.  Then we were arrested by two plainclothes policemen who sneaked up on us.  Their nicknames were Starsky and Hutch.  Two fines each:  One for drinking alcohol in a public place and another for having an open bottle in a public place.  I was told they could hold me in jail as I didn't have any identification - I was in jogging shorts!  Starsky gave us the tickets and said it's okay to finish your beers!

I once heard that you really need a permit to have a drink in your own yard but that law is never enforced.

And yes Tiki, in Ontario the government still controls the sale of alcohol.  But on the bright side, guns are not as prevalent.

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5 hours ago, TikiSoo said:

Amazing Canadians have to buy their booze from a government owned store. Wasn't it called LCBO? And aren't beer/wine/liquor separated?

Talk about "dry" areas in US: you can tour the Yuengling Brewery in PA but you can't buy & drink one unless you drive to another county!

When I lived in Paris, I used to see all these people queuing up on Sunday night at a particular Cafe. You see in France you can only buy cigarettes at a cafe called a tabac,  which has a government license to sell cigarettes.

That seemed strange to me  but apparently that's the way the State controls  tobacco tax .

And these people were all buying not French cigarettes like Gitane or Gauloise, but cartons of Marlboros. Go figure.

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2 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

liWhen I lived in Paris, I used to see all these people queuing up on Sunday night at a particular Cafe. You see in France you can only buy cigarettes at a cafe called a tabac,  which has a government license to sell cigarettes.

That seemed strange to me  but apparently that's the way the State controls  tobacco tax .

And these people were all buying not French cigarettes like Gitane or Gauloise, but cartons of Marlboros. Go figure.

Well, OF COURSE they were, Princess!

Betcha those French brands never had a cool commercial for 'em showin' some ruggedly handsome cowboy smokin' away under a picturesque sunset-lit western sky while the opening strains of Elmer Bernstein's The Magnificent Seven theme was heard playing in the background and some announcer intoning (in french of course) "Come to Gitane (and/or Gauloise) Country", huh!

(... ♪♪ bump, BUMP BUMP bump, bump bump BUMP BUMP bump...BUMP! ♪♪ )

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22 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

They should have been pepper sprayed !!!!   

A Sunday night - parking lot in an empty park in Toronto.  A friend and I had just finished a 12 mile jog.  He cracked two beers that he had in the trunk.  Then we were arrested by two plainclothes policemen who sneaked up on us.  Their nicknames were Starsky and Hutch.  Two fines each:  One for drinking alcohol in a public place and another for having an open bottle in a public place.  I was told they could hold me in jail as I didn't have any identification - I was in jogging shorts!  Starsky gave us the tickets and said it's okay to finish your beers!

I once heard that you really need a permit to have a drink in your own yard but that law is never enforced.

And yes Tiki, in Ontario the government still controls the sale of alcohol.  But on the bright side, guns are not as prevalent.

Most public parks do prohibit alcohol on the premises, but some too, do overlook it in certain circumstances.  Like in Wyandotte MI's BISHOP PARK it's prohibited generally, but overlooked the day and night when the city puts on it's annual July 4th fireworks display.  And otherwise, any other time, all that's done( if caught by authorities) is your being insisted upon to leave the park. No fine, no threat of jail or pushy police behavior.  

And....KUDOS for caring SO much about your health that you'll guzzle a COLD ONE after a run!  :D  ;) 

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Thrilled that The Formosa will be back.  I'll be in LA next January-February and I plan to spend a lot of time at The Formosa and Musso & Franks!  

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On 7/16/2019 at 8:03 AM, lydecker said:

I'll be in LA next January-February

Heh, and I'll be in Pittsburgh.

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9 minutes ago, TikiSoo said:

Heh, and I'll be in Pittsburgh.

Yea, but I have to hang out in Pittsburgh most of the time!!! 

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Yes, PA has a bunch of nutty regulations.  I moved there from NYS, which seemed to have reasonable stuff, at the time.  In PA you could only buy beer (in cases) from a beer distributor, only by beer (by the 6-pack) from a tavern, only by wine and spirits at a State Store.  It have relaxed a bit, but....

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