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Anybody understand what's happening here??....... :huh:

China Warns Hong Kong Violence Will 'Be Severely Punished' As U.S. Navy Tries to Visit

"....Hong Kong's protests began earlier this year in response to a proposed bill that would allow residents accused of a crime in the special administrative region to be extradited to other parts of China to face trial. While Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam has since agreed to suspend the bill, protesters have demanded it be scrapped entirely and have called for resignation as well as looser election laws, more government accountability and overall greater distance from Beijing, which claimed sovereignty over the city as part of a "one country, two systems" framework following a handover from its colonizer, the United Kingdom, in 1997...

The protests have grown increasingly violent,......

 

https://www.newsweek.com/china-warns-hong-kong-violence-will-severely-punished-us-navy-tries-visit-1454342?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_medium=Social

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13 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Anybody understand what's happening here?

This is a delayed reaction to the reunification in 1997. This is exactly the kind of thing that was predicted to happen immediately upon the handover, but it's taken over 20 years to really get going. I think it's because mainland China has been much more lenient about HK maintaining its old legal and economic systems than anyone expected. Instead of HK becoming more like China, it's been the other way around. But mainland China is still very oppressive, and is also very power-conscious, and doesn't like HK "flouting" its authority. This extradition law directly flies in the face of that old tenet of allowing HK to police itself for the most part. HK residents also feel that it will lead to more policies that reflect those on mainland China.

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#BoycottMulan Trend Gains Momentum

as Yifei Liu Remains Silent After Supporting Hong Kong Police

........Netizens are continuing to slam Yifei Liu, the star of Disney's live-action remake of Mulan after she supported Hong Kong police. Protests in the troubled Chinese city have mostly been peaceful, though authorities have used excessive force on activists and journalists.

The #BoycottMulan trend first gained momentum on Thursday, a day after Liu used the Chinese micro-blogging site Weibo to support the police.

She posted a screenshot of an image first shared by China's state paper, People's Daily: "I support Hong Kong's police, you can beat me up now." She added to her 65 million followers: "What a shame for Hong Kong" and the hashtag, "IAlsoSupportTheHongKongPolice."........

https://www.newsweek.com/boycottmulan-trend-gains-momentum-yifei-liu-remains-silent-after-supporting-hong-kong-police-1454745?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=NewsweekTwitter&utm_medium=Social

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After recent chaos, Hong Kong 1.7 m protesters hold peaceful march

 

More than 1.7 million people in Hong Kong took to the streets on Sunday in the largest demonstration in the ongoing protests in the city, organizers said. The peaceful demonstration follows last week’s violent clashes with the police and chaos at the Hong Kong airport.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/after-recent-chaos-hong-kong-protesters-hold-peaceful-march

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Twitter and Facebook say China-linked accounts sought to fuel political discord in Hong Kong

Twitter said it pulled down 936 troll accounts, many of which pushed conspiracy theories about the protest groups, according to examples shared by the company.

 

..........One conspiratorial post in English highlighted by Twitter’s public safety team reads: “Are these people who smashed the Legco (Legislative Council of Hong Kong) crazy or taking benefits from the bad guys?”

Twitter said the company has “reliable evidence to support that this is a coordinated state-backed operation.”

 

....Many of the English-language accounts purported to be from various municipalities in the U.S., including major cities such as New York City and towns like Berrien Springs, Michigan. The accounts gained followers by tweeting about noncontroversial cultural events, like the NBC show “This Is Us.”

Building up follower bases to eventually be deployed during a disinformation campaign is a common tactic of social media misinformation efforts.

Other accounts successfully posed as Hong Kong news accounts, like @HKPoliticalNew,.......

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/twitter-facebook-say-china-linked-accounts-sought-sow-political-discord-n1044086?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

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China’s Hong Kong Dilemma -

The mass demonstrations are in bold defiance of Chinese authority—but a crackdown could be incalculably costly.

".... young people in Hong Kong describe themselves, overwhelmingly, as “Hong Kongers” rather than “Chinese.” Their resentment of the Communist Party’s growing involvement in their politics and culture has fuelled the crisis that has consumed the territory this summer. Protests that began, in June, in response to a proposed extradition law have expanded into a broad-based movement with the slogan “Retake Hong Kong, Revolution of Our Times.”

A city that prides itself on high-toned rule of law has become the backdrop for a grinding standoff between police in riot gear and young men and women in gas masks, goggles, and yellow helmets, testing the resolve of one of the world’s economic centers and the dexterity of China’s President, Xi Jinping. A popular protest motto on banners and city walls evokes the stakes: “If we burn, you burn with us.” .........

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/09/02/chinas-hong-kong-dilemma?utm_source=twitter&utm_brand=tny&utm_social-type=owned&utm_medium=social&mbid=social_twitter

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Trump promised Xi US silence on Hong Kong democracy protests as trade talks stalled

 

.......Trump promised Chinese President Xi Jinping that the US would remain quiet on pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong while trade talks continued, two sources familiar with the call tell CNN.

The remarkable pledge to the Chinese leader is a dramatic departure from decades of US support for human rights in China and shows just how eager Trump is to strike a deal with Beijing as the trade war weighs on the US economy..........
 
 
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Young protesters in Hong Kong are writing “last letters” to their loved ones, in the event that they are arrested or killed.
 
Some carry handwritten copies to the streets in their backpacks or wallets. Others hide them at home.

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45 minutes ago, mr6666 said:
 
Young protesters in Hong Kong are writing “last letters” to their loved ones, in the event that they are arrested or killed.
 
Some carry handwritten copies to the streets in their backpacks or wallets. Others hide them at home.

Are these only the violent ones?     The L.A. Times report today mentions the riots and all the destruction the protesters did the other day.   The article ends with a statement from one of the protest leaders; "We're using peaceful, rational, nonviolent ways to voice our demands" said Figo Chan of Civil Human Rights Front.      Yea????   Was I viewing doctored footage????

Maybe those writing the letters are those that know they will be participating in very violent protest and expect the government to respond in a similar manner (like our government they would do in the USA,  but not in say France and where we saw how the yellow-jacket protesters gained too much control via violence).

 

 

 

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https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/08/mulan-boycott-liu-yifei-hong-kong-protests-police

Mulan Actress Voices Support for Hong Kong Police Amid Protests, Sparks Boycott Calls

As protesters fight for democracy, Liu Yifei, a naturalized American citizen, wrote on the Chinese social platform Weibo, “I support the Hong Kong police. You can all attack me now. What a shame for Hong Kong.”

 

Protests in Hong Kong have been roiling for months, and show no signs of stopping any time soon. Demonstrators’ fight for democracy began with a now-defunct bill that would have allowed mainland China to extradite people from Hong Kong—which has seen its traditional autonomy diminishing in recent years. All of this has proven a sticky topic for some Chinese-American actors—most recently, Liu Yifei, who will play Mulan in Disney’s upcoming live-action remake.

Yifei ran afoul of the protests’ supporters this week when she stated her support for Hong Kong police, whose use of force has been condemned by Amnesty International. The police have also been accused of using undercover officers to infiltrate the protests and make arrests. “I support the Hong Kong police,” Yifei wrote on the Chinese social platform Weibo. “You can all attack me now. What a shame for Hong Kong.” According to CNN, the hashtag #BoycottMulan quickly began trending on Twitter, which is banned in China.

As CNN notes, Yifei is not the only Chinese-American celebrity to anger the protest’s supporters. Jackie Chan, who hails from Hong Kong, said during an appearance on Chinese broadcaster CCTV Thursday that the violence was “heartbreaking and worrying for many.” He referred to an incident in which the protesters threw the People’s Republic of China flag into the sea, and said he supported state TV’s campaign to protect the banner after it had been “desecrated.”

 
 

“I feel the pride of being a Chinese everywhere,” Chan said in Mandarin. “The five-starred red flag is respected everywhere.” According to CNN, his nationalist tone courted criticism on Twitter as well.

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