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The four watchable Bond movies.

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On tonight.  You Only Live Twice (1967) is not one of them, despite the John Barry soundtrack.  Three of them directed by Terrence Young.  Not a coincidence.  

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I think they're all enjoyable but Goldfinger is really the height of the whole series. Best villain, best henchman, best soundtrack, best plot, best women.

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On 9/5/2019 at 10:35 PM, slaytonf said:

On tonight.  You Only Live Twice (1967) is not one of them, despite the John Barry soundtrack.  Three of them directed by Terrence Young.  Not a coincidence.  

"You Only Live Twice" is not on tonight either, it looks like they totally skipped that one. It's too bad, I think it's a good one. Q has a great scene with Bond, Aki is one of the best Bond girls and we finally see Blofeld. 

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That's a matter of opinion too.  One I agree with, but nonetheless.  

The only Bonds I never got "into" were MOORE, LAZENBY,  DALTON.  I never minded BROSNAN too much, and CRAIG, while not in the "traditional" Bond mold, does OK too. 

And while LAZENBY was a good actor, I think it was his(to me) too close resemblance to ORSON BEAN that was a deal breaker for me.  Couldn't take him seriously. 

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If memory serves, Sean Connery said his favorite is From Russia With Love.  Mine too, but Goldfinger is probably the best Bond movie of all.

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"Dr. No" was great.

"From Russia, With Love" was fantastic.

"Goldfinger" was the best.

"Thunderball" had too many gadgets.

"You Only Live Twice" was boring.

And that's all, folks!

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Sepiatone said:

The only Bonds I never got "into" were MOORE, LAZENBY,  DALTON.  I never minded BROSNAN too much, and CRAIG, while not in the "traditional" Bond mold, does OK too. 

I'm also not a fan of Moore's Bond. I like a sense of humor, but those movies test my tolerance quite a bit. Especially once you get to the whole 'Bond goes to space' thing.

I also don't mind Brosnan, and think he could have been a terrific 007 if he had better scripts to work with. The Brosnan era is sadly like a masterclass in how NOT to do Bond.

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I remember seeing Thunderball and You Only Live Twice in a movie theater. I lost interest in

James Bond after that and haven't watched another one since. I will probably watch Diamonds

Are Forever tonight. 

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Aside from Connery's return I dont rate Diamonds very highly.

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That's the main reason I will watch it, and to see how the toupee holds up. I would

think it's not in the class of Goldfinger, but I'm sure it has some good parts in it. 

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Almost a decade ago (and I can't believe it's been that long already), I made my way through the first 20 films of the series (I've never seen the most recent 4, although I have heard raves for Casino Royale and Skyfall, both of which I should see sometime). The films I was most impressed by were Goldfinger, You Only Live Twice, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and The Living Daylights. With such a long running series, many of which had the same basic structure (provocative title sequence with a new song, dastardly supervillain, unusual henchpeople, beautiful women, gadgets, gizmos, destruction of the villain's plans, followed by his death), it was the little quirks that made each film different, and some better than others.

In the four I mentioned, each added something different to the plot....

Goldfinger, sheer snazziness, great pace, colorful villains

You Only Live Twice, an exotic setting in Japan replete with some surprising twists

On Her majesty's Secret Service, the best of all the Bond women in Diana Rigg and the most telling of all the films in the perils and consequences of living a life on the ledge and how happiness can be robbed from you in the blink of an eye.

The living Daylights, Timothy Dalton and Maryam D'Abo had the best chemistry of any romantic pairing in the series, and in some ways, I like to feel this is an epilogue to all of them, because its at its warmest and most romantic here. Plus John Barry's last score for the series is a strong one, and the serious treatment of the whole film is a breath of fresh air.

Some episodes could have been better then they ended up being. I am reminded of The World is not Enough. That 1999 film has more than its fair share of problems, and yet there were parts of it that worked perfectly: Desmond Llewyn's poignant series farewell, Brosnan gave his best performance of his 4 films, Sophie Marceau was riveting, and the film had some operatic notes of tragedy. Unfortunately, it all ended on a campy and cringeworthy comic note. But even despite that film's other downfalls, there is promise in there.

[I could try to rank the Bonds, the villains, the love interests, songs, etc, but I feel that should be another post]

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2 hours ago, Vautrin said:

I remember seeing Thunderball and You Only Live Twice in a movie theater. I lost interest in

James Bond after that and haven't watched another one since. I will probably watch Diamonds

Are Forever tonight. 

The cheesy 70s gay henchmen really make that movie. :lol:

 

 

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8 hours ago, Det Jim McLeod said:

"You Only Live Twice" is not on tonight either, it looks like they totally skipped that one. It's too bad, I think it's a good one. Q has a great scene with Bond, Aki is one of the best Bond girls and we finally see Blofeld. 

It was on the last Bond night but in the very early hours of the morning, like 4 AM.

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20 minutes ago, Gershwin fan said:

It was on the last Bond night but in the very early hours of the morning, like 4 AM.

I'm glad it was on.

And I'm glad I missed it.

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9 hours ago, Sepiatone said:

The only Bonds I never got "into" were MOORE, LAZENBY,  DALTON.  I never minded BROSNAN too much, and CRAIG, while not in the "traditional" Bond mold, does OK too. 

If we had to have one Roger Moore, The Spy Who Loved Me just somehow hit all the right notes to boost the Moore canon out of early-70's obscurity and into the late-70's popcorn renaissance.  There were TWO big box-office hits of summer '77.  (Shame about the other Moores, though, and even Live and Let Die never quite lives up to what it should be.)

As for the Connerys, if you try to describe or make up a 007 plot out of thin air, chances are half of it will be taken straight out of DNA memories of Goldfinger.  That's how Essential it is.  B)

Still not sure which is the Essential Pierce Brosnan, though--My leaning is to the slickness of Tomorrow Never Dies, since Goldeneye was icky, violent and misogynistic, but made a good video game.

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2 hours ago, Gershwin fan said:

The cheesy 70s gay henchmen really make that movie.

I feel like the "gayness" or lack of same might have been the topic of discussion in a long-ago thread to which I may have contributed, but possibly I'd forgotten the whole 'for a lady' linr.

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1 hour ago, EricJ said:

Goldeneye was icky, violent and misogynistic, but made a good video game.

There is a powerful love among people a few years younger than me for the Goldeneye video game, it appears, which I've never played. My videogame playing days were pretty much over before its release. I've actually forgotten which Brosnan Bond films I've seen. Pretty sure I saw one of them in the theater, but I have no idea which one.

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I'm being even-handed.  I'm giving every Bond movie from now on a fair shake.  I watched On Her Majesties Secret Service (1969) to the end.  But that's because I came in an hour into the movie.  Otherwise the level of toxicity built up would have been too great.  Mr. Lazenby actually didn't have so bad a presence on screen as Bond.  But, oh, I felt so bad for Diana Rigg.  She was killer in the Avengers.  Chic, trig, mod.  But in the movie, she came off--well--I was wondering why Bond didn't go for that chicken heiress. . . . .

Gave up on Diamonds Are Forever (1971) after the save from cremation.  Toooo lame.  This notwithstanding Jill St. John.

Onward.

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I enjoy all the Bonds except for Lazenby, he was just too soft. I prefer the cold, hard drinking, womanizing , degenerate gambling, mad dog killer. I imagine that's what one would have to be to go around the world killing people "for queen and country".

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I am currently reading the Matt Helm series, which was been re-released a few years ago.  Not James Bond, but a secret agent from the same era.  Interesting enough that I will probably purchase all of them - about half-way through now.

Incidentally, you have to erase Dean Martin and his Matt Helm movies from your memory.

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9 hours ago, GGGGerald said:

I enjoy all the Bonds except for Lazenby, he was just too soft. I prefer the cold, hard drinking, womanizing , degenerate gambling, mad dog killer. I imagine that's what one would have to be to go around the world killing people "for queen and country".

Well, he did bit of womanizing even with Diana Rigg on the side....and there was a high body count too.

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I'm still bummed that none of the James Bond flicks are available 'On Demand'.  Other United Artists releases get to hang around for a week or so in case people aren't able to watch them when they're scheduled or have no means to record those programs (like me).  As the lazy French cat would say in a Pepe LePiew cartoon..."le sigh" 😉.

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