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California Blackout Spreads as Cities Brace for Days in the Dark

The unprecedented power shutdown by California’s PG&E Corp. has spread deeper into cities near San Francisco, ensnaring millions of people and raising the prospect that much of a major metropolitan area could go days without electricity.

The bankrupt utility began a second round of power cuts overnight, bringing the number of darkened homes and businesses to around 750,000. It’s the largest intentional blackout ever orchestrated in the state to prevent high winds from knocking down electrical lines and igniting wildfires. The economic impact may reach $2.6 billion.

As it grapples with outages, PG&E is being hammered on Wall Street. Its shares plunged as much as 32% Thursday over a ruling in its Chapter 11 case threatens to puts the company’s fate into the hands of bondholders and others proposing reorganization plans that could wipe out holdings of existing shareholders.

After being forced into bankruptcy from wildfires its equipment caused over the past two years, PG&E is using the massive power cuts in an attempt to prevent another deadly disaster. While San Francisco and most of Silicon Valley will be spared, the extensive reach of the outages in Oakland, San Jose and elsewhere threatens to roil the area’s economy by disrupting workers, shutting stores and forcing companies and agencies to shell out for costly back-up generators to keep operations limping along.

In Southern California, Edison International was cutting power to dozens of customers and has warned of more, while San Diego’s main utility is also considering shutoffs. Altogether, more than 3 million people may eventually be affected, or almost 8% of the state’s population, based on city estimates and the average household size.

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They all wanted the Green New Deal, so this is how life is under that plan. No electricity until it's carbon neutral, no meat, no fun, no lights.

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If it prevents more of these out-of-control climate-change-fueled wildfires, it might be worth it.  MUCH better than Idiot King Trump the First’s moronic suggestion to rake the forest floors.

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notice how they make an exception for all the rich hoity-toity liberal art exhibition frequenting liberals of san Francisco.

but there can be a retribution...they should all vote trump!

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It was the Utility Company WHICH shut down the power grid.  The were deemed responsible for last year’s blazes, and have filed bankruptcy due to the tens of billions they owe.

Why would any self-respecting liberal, or ANY person with a working thought process, vote for Donald Trump?

Retribution?!?  You mean like our allies the Kurds?  Your Deranged Orange Menace has truly lost it!

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23 minutes ago, cigarjoe said:

Simple but expensive solution..... bury all the power lines. It'll probably pay for itself in the long run.

That was scheduled to be done in my area about 15 years ago, but then at the last minute the two power companies that serve my town canceled it. If there's one state it makes sense, it's here in Florida with the lines going down during every other storm. But they decided that it would be too expensive, and they'd have to "pass along" the cost to consumers meaning higher bills, which customers polled said they didn't want. Plus they said it would jeopardize the jobs of thousands of linemen around the state.<_<

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1 hour ago, Arturo said:

It was the Utility Company WHICH shut down the power grid.  The were deemed responsible for last year’s blazes, and have filed bankruptcy due to the tens of billions they owe.

Why would any self-respecting liberal, or ANY person with a working thought process, vote for Donald Trump?

Retribution?!?  You mean like our allies the Kurds?  Your Deranged Orange Menace has truly lost it!

conservatives would never suggest cutting off people's electricity.

it just ain't nice.

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56 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:

That was scheduled to be done in my area about 15 years ago, but then at the last minute the two power companies that serve my town canceled it. If there's one state it makes sense, it's here in Florida with the lines going down during every other storm. But they decided that it would be too expensive, and they'd have to "pass along" the cost to consumers meaning higher bills, which customers polled said they didn't want. Plus they said it would jeopardize the jobs of thousands of linemen around the state.<_<

The power companies are doing this in order to get the state to waive liability if a storm or very high winds cause a power-line to go down that starts a fire (E.g. all the billions these power companies are libel for related to last year fires).

In poker terms power companies are check-calling the state;  Consumers are complaining and I believe the state will fold within a few weeks.

 

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8 hours ago, Arturo said:

It was the Utility Company WHICH shut down the power grid.  The were deemed responsible for last year’s blazes, and have filed bankruptcy due to the tens of billions they owe.

Why would any self-respecting liberal, or ANY person with a working thought process, vote for Donald Trump?

Retribution?!?  You mean like our allies the Kurds?  Your Deranged Orange Menace has truly lost it!

You have the hypocritical gall to accuse me of deflection where there was NONE!! What in the hell the Kurds have to do with California's power grid??? :wacko:

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9 hours ago, hamradio said:

You have the hypocritical gall to accuse me of deflection where there was NONE!! What in the hell the Kurds have to do with California's power grid??? :wacko:

First of all, I answered Nipkow’s post, first about the utility companies making exception for liberal Californians. No deflection.

Then I answered his musing that these liberals should vote for Trump.  No deflection here.

So you feel I deflected with RETRIBUTION.  I brought up a recent salient example of a group that is dealing with Trump’s retribution, saying “Are you kidding....”  When I have answered everything, that is not deflection.  When you don’t answer anything in your responses, but move on to something else, that is deflection.

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Millions are out of power in California, but were the PG&E shutoffs necessary?

 

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“All of a sudden PG&E is in a situation where it needs to replace about a quarter or half of its system with new components,” said Michael Wara, head of the climate and energy policy program at Stanford University’s Woods Institute. “There isn’t the personnel anywhere in the country to do that, let alone just in California, let alone in PG&E’s service territory.”

At the same time, the company is facing bankruptcy and a massive reorganization, stemming from a multibillion dollar financial liability accrued from sparking past wildfires. As a result, Wara suspects PG&E will need up to a decade to complete its renovation.

Will the fire risk circle back every year? The answer may have less to do with windy weather, and be more dependent on climate change......

 

The bankrupt utility may owe victims and insurance companies anywhere between $20 and $40 billion dollars, Wara said. Since 1997, California’s inverse condemnation law has held utilities liable for the damages caused by a fire, even if the company did not act negligently. The California Public Utilities Commission said the utility can’t pass its wildfire-related costs onto their subscribers.

Moving its 81,000 miles of power lines underground would be prohibitively expensive — with a cost ranging between $3 million to $5 million per mile, according to KQED. In April, a California judge stated that the company had also skipped on its tree trimming budget, instead, paying out $4.5 billion in stock dividends to its investors. Hardening the power grid — by insulating the wires or installing fail safes for damaged lines, for example — represents the only feasible path for PG&E, Wara said.....

All of these factors will leave Californians — especially in the north — in a predicament for years to come. The North in particular carries a high density of both fire-prone grasslands and forests, the latter of which have experienced an 800 percent increase in summertime fires over the last five decades. Cayan, Swain and others expect fall fires to worsen and expand as warming increases.

And while California boasts some of the fastest adoption of residential solar power in the country, Borenstein said that solution is still unaffordable for most individual homes, due to the falling but still high costs of personal solar panels and batteries.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/millions-are-out-of-power-in-california-but-were-the-pge-shutoffs-necessary?utm_source=TWITTER&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_term=20191011&amp;utm_content=2729208823&amp;utm_campaign=Frontline&amp;linkId=75151726

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After Avoiding Safety Upgrades, PG&E Hired Lobbyists and Public Relations Instead

 

"...The fate of PG&E, which supplies electricity and gas to over 5 million customers, remains unclear. Bankruptcy protection could shield the firm from legal liability, ensuring that PG&E escapes responsibility from paying the victims of its wildfires.

In a rare show of cross-ideological unity, leaders in San Francisco, including Mayor London Breed, have called for municipalizing the firm’s city assets, a move that could transform a significant portion of PG&E into a nonprofit, city-managed company. 

That effort, however, has faced opposition from union leaders at IBEW, which represents much of PG&E’s labor force. The unions has claimed that the city takeover could jeopardize worker pensions.

 

https://theintercept.com/2019/10/11/pge-power-shutdown-california/?fbclid=IwAR0XVRkTE_Xdn1gpXDBRVlgEzq62fE2aVg4l2WP-RvP13MSpyTRAJGaQp10

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(shouldn't unions already be suing PG&E re. wages, jobs & pensions?)

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Calif. officials say man using oxygen tank died within minutes of PG&E power shutoff

....Mardis's family told Fox40 that his electric oxygen tank lost power while he was sleeping and he was trying to get his back-up, battery-operated oxygen tank when he lost consciousness.

Family members reportedly tried performing CPR, but paramedics pronounced Mardis dead shortly after they arrived on the scene. ........

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/465495-calif-officials-say-man-using-oxygen-tank-died-within-minutes-of-pge?fbclid=IwAR0qjoHHy34GRs13GdFqx6u0t6p5BPMFMEr_tNLt-2OdFmscPpS_lzm6z6A

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purposely cutting off people's electricity is bleeping stupid on it's face and that poor family oughta sue PG&E's keester off.

that poor schmoe didn't have to croak now watch all the California Hollywood celebs defend cutting people's power.

:lol:

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