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Tonight's silly question

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I feel this should be obvious, maybe someone knows.

I was watching an MGM silent the other night on TCM. The opening credits were preceded by the famous "roaring" lion. I say "roaring" in quotes, because of course, being a silent movie there was no roar.

Did TCM or a later distributor add the MGM lion opening, or did they really use it during the silent era?

I ask because I don't know why they would use the iconic roar if there was no accompanying sound.

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There's no such thing as a silly question. Although, there's no guarantee that you won't get silly answers. The "roarless" lion was indeed on MGM pictures during the silent era. I know, because I've seen dozens of them. Maybe they should have followed it with a card that said "ROAR!"on it. :)

 

 

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Ok, years later when MGM added the sound did they use the original lion?

 

(see there is such a thing as a silly question!).

 

 

 

 

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> {quote:title=markfp2 wrote:}{quote}There's no such thing as a silly question. Although, there's no guarantee that you won't get silly answers. The "roarless" lion was indeed on MGM pictures during the silent era. I know, because I've seen dozens of them. Maybe they should have followed it with a card that said "ROAR!"on it. :)

 

Subtitles for the lion! That's pretty good! :):D

I thank you for the response. I didn't understand why they would have the lion in the roaring motion if we weren't able to hear it.

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IF do a Google search for "MGM Lion" then go to the Wikipedia site. You'll find more than anyone could ever need to know about the various MGM (and per-MGM) lions. It's actually pretty interesting and they even have shots of various logos with the names of the lions. :)

 

See, what somebody might think is a silly question, actually turns out to be motivation do some research that turns up things even and old film-buff like me didn't know.

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I'm pretty sure I've seen it both ways...MGM silents with new music scores that had the "roarless" lion (the music begins over the lion), and some with a roar version used.

 

From the Wikipedia page:

 

"Interestingly, in the early 1930s, MGM reissued some of its earlier silent films with soundtracks containing recorded music and sound effects. Among the films reissued in this manner were [Greed|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greed_%281924_film%29|Greed (1924 film)] (1924), [ben-Hur|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben-Hur_%281925_film%29|Ben-Hur (1925 film)] (1925) and [Flesh and the Devil|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flesh_and_the_Devil|Flesh and the Devil] (1926). For these sound reissues, Jackie was used instead of Slats, causing some film authorities to assume that the lion had been in use before 1928."

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