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Lawford has become an object of ridicule and disrespect because he was diminished (for lack of a better word) by his Sinatra and Kennedy connections

 

He paid a big price. Marilyn Monroe haunted him while he was on his death bed.

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Lawford has become an object of ridicule and disrespect because he was diminished (for lack of a better word) by his Sinatra and Kennedy connections

Lawford was outed by Maureen O'Hara in her autobiography. According to her, he was arrested in Australia during the filming of KANGAROO when police raided a gay escort service. Other sources claim he was lovers with Tom Drake during his MGM days when both were under contract there in the 40s.

 

No matter how MGM cast him, Lawford was not exactly the boy-next-door. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy his work in films and on television. But his off-screen persona sometimes prevents others from liking him.

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BETTE DAVIS (1908-1989) This would be a 'One-Time-Only' kind of SOTM with her later Tv movies being the focus here.  ► I think there are just enough made-for-television productions starring Bette to get through a month with the longer running times of "Family Reunion", "Little Gloria . . . Happy at Last" and "Dark Secret of Harvest Home".  The only question would be if TCM could get hold of them.      

   Madame Sin (1972-Tvm)   

   Judge and Jake Wyler, The (1972-Tvm)

   Scream, Pretty Peggy (1973-Tvm)

   Disappearance of Aimee, The (1976-Tvm)

   ♣ Dark Secret of Harvest Home, The (1978-Tvm) ♣ 

   Strangers:  The Story of a Mother and Daughter (1979-Tvm)

   Skyward (1980-Tvm)

   White Mama (1980-Tvm)

   Family Reunion (1981-Tvm)

   Little Gloria . . . Happy at Last (1982-Tvm)

   Piano for Mrs. Cimino, A (1982-Tvm)

   Right of Way (1983-Made for Cable Tv)

   Murder With Mirrors (1985-Tvm)

   As Summers Die (1986-Made for Cable Tv)

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     As a sidenote of sorts I do enjoy collecting Tv movies on homevideo and some of the TVM's listed above were easy to find at the time I bought them.  I snagged MADAME SIN, THE DISAPPEARANCE OF AIMEE, STRANGERS:  THE STORY OF A MOTHER AND DAUGHTER, SKYWARD, WHITE MAMA and A PIANO FOR MRS. CIMINO on tape a number of years ago. 

 

     I don't have homevideo releases of these, but they were released on tape or DVD:  AS SUMMERS DIE, MURDER WITH MIRRORS, RIGHT OF WAY and LITTLE GLORIA . . . HAPPY AT LAST.  I think FAMILY REUNION was released on DVD, but I'm not 100% sure.

 

     Unfortunately, I've never seen any copies of THE JUDGE AND JAKE WYLER and SCREAM, PRETTY PEGGY out and about.  Maybe TCM could find a copy of each tele-film.  Perhaps they have connections to find these TVM's!

 

      In regards to 'DARK SECRET OF HARVEST HOME' it was released on video by 'MCA Home Video' circa 1986/87 but, alas, in a useless shortened version that only runs 2 hours.  "Dark Secret of Harvest Home" was originally shown over two nights and ran approx. 200 minutes (3 hrs 20 mins.) so you'd get 1 hr 40 mins per evening.  If MCA had released the full-length version of this I'd have bought it years ago . . . but they didn't.  Ugh!  So if TCM could get hold of the full-length edition to air I'd be watching it like a hawk.   :)  

    

I love Bette Davis. But she already gets much love from TCM, for her many excellent performances over the decades in theatrical movies. Let someone worthy, who has yet to be honored, be given this opportunity. As for TV movies, I would be in favor to include one as part of such an honor to pad things out, as needed, or the occasional curiosity value, as the 60s pilot featured during the Joan Crawford month recently.. But not a whole.month of made for tv movies; this seems better suited to Lifetime or Hallmark maybe, but not TCM.

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I love Bette Davis. But she already gets much love from TCM, for her many excellent performances over the decades in theatrical movies. Let someone worthy, who has yet to be honored, be given this opportunity. As for TV movies, I would be in favor to include one as part of such an honor to pad things out, as needed, or the occasional curiosity value, as the 60s pilot featured during the Joan Crawford month recently.. But not a whole.month of made for tv movies; this seems better suited to Lifetime or Hallmark maybe, but not TCM.

According to O'Hara, so was costar Richard Boone in the same incident. If so, the studio, 20th Century Fox, must've put pressure, or paid big bucks, to have it squelched.

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According to O'Hara, so was costar Richard Boone in the same incident. If so, the studio, 20th Century Fox, must've put pressure, or paid big bucks, to have it squelched.

Right-- I think that is likely what happened. Lawford was making that picture at Fox on loan-out. His movie career quickly stalled after this, and he was forced to work in television during the mid-50s. So I think Fox covered up the incident O'Hara describes (probably to prevent the picture from tanking at the box office and to save Boone's career) while MGM reviewed Lawford's contract and suddenly considered him unemployable.

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Or maybe O'Hara is a bald-faced liar. She is Irish, after all.

 

A large part of my own family is Irish (my grandmother is an O'Sullivan) and I know first-hand that they're capable of a great deal of lying - particularly if they're feeling resentful about something.

 

They laugh about their "blarney".

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BETTE DAVIS (1908-1989) This would be a 'One-Time-Only' kind of SOTM with her later Tv movies being the focus here.  ► I think there are just enough made-for-television productions starring Bette to get through a month with the longer running times of "Family Reunion", "Little Gloria . . . Happy at Last" and "Dark Secret of Harvest Home".  The only question would be if TCM could get hold of them.      

   Madame Sin (1972-Tvm)   

   Judge and Jake Wyler, The (1972-Tvm)

   Scream, Pretty Peggy (1973-Tvm)

   Disappearance of Aimee, The (1976-Tvm)

   ♣ Dark Secret of Harvest Home, The (1978-Tvm) ♣ 

   Strangers:  The Story of a Mother and Daughter (1979-Tvm)

   Skyward (1980-Tvm)

   White Mama (1980-Tvm)

   Family Reunion (1981-Tvm)

   Little Gloria . . . Happy at Last (1982-Tvm)

   Piano for Mrs. Cimino, A (1982-Tvm)

   Right of Way (1983-Made for Cable Tv)

   Murder With Mirrors (1985-Tvm)

   As Summers Die (1986-Made for Cable Tv)

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     As a sidenote of sorts I do enjoy collecting Tv movies on homevideo and some of the TVM's listed above were easy to find at the time I bought them.  I snagged MADAME SIN, THE DISAPPEARANCE OF AIMEE, STRANGERS:  THE STORY OF A MOTHER AND DAUGHTER, SKYWARD, WHITE MAMA and A PIANO FOR MRS. CIMINO on tape a number of years ago. 

 

     I don't have homevideo releases of these, but they were released on tape or DVD:  AS SUMMERS DIE, MURDER WITH MIRRORS, RIGHT OF WAY and LITTLE GLORIA . . . HAPPY AT LAST.  I think FAMILY REUNION was released on DVD, but I'm not 100% sure.

 

     Unfortunately, I've never seen any copies of THE JUDGE AND JAKE WYLER and SCREAM, PRETTY PEGGY out and about.  Maybe TCM could find a copy of each tele-film.  Perhaps they have connections to find these TVM's!

 

      In regards to 'DARK SECRET OF HARVEST HOME' it was released on video by 'MCA Home Video' circa 1986/87 but, alas, in a useless shortened version that only runs 2 hours.  "Dark Secret of Harvest Home" was originally shown over two nights and ran approx. 200 minutes (3 hrs 20 mins.) so you'd get 1 hr 40 mins per evening.  If MCA had released the full-length version of this I'd have bought it years ago . . . but they didn't.  Ugh!  So if TCM could get hold of the full-length edition to air I'd be watching it like a hawk.   :)  

    

To jump to Bette Davis' TV movies when many worthy performers (e.g., Susan Hayward) have not yet been honored for their theatrical movies would be a particular injustice.

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Or maybe O'Hara is a bald-faced liar. She is Irish, after all.

 

A large part of my own family is Irish (my grandmother is an O'Sullivan) and I know first-hand that they're capable of a great deal of lying - particularly if they're feeling resentful about something.

 

They laugh about their "blarney".

Lawford's own mother said he was gay (to countless people)-- but his widow said he claimed to be bisexual which would probably be more accurate. I doubt O'Hara is making anything up-- she has nothing to gain by it. Most likely she is chronicling the sometimes crazy nature of show business (the movie business in particular).

 

There was a hotbed of homosexual activity going on at MGM in the 40s and 50s, despite Louis Mayer's wishes to eradicate it.  Van Johnson was certainly sexually active with men-- according to not only his peers (like Debbie Reynolds) but also his stepson. If Van Johnson is highly regarded, then there is no reason Peter Lawford shouldn't be highly regarded either and given a tribute or two.

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 I doubt O'Hara is making anything up-- she has nothing to gain by it.

 

Nothing you know about. But it's your privilege to doubt or not as you wish.

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Nothing you know about. But it's your privilege to doubt or not as you wish.

We haven't seen any evidence that she has gained anything by putting those comments about Lawford and Boone into her autobiography. If anything, she may have lost points with people who do not wish to think of their favorite movie stars as bisexual or homosexual. 

 

Of course, I don't need anyone's permission to doubt it or not.

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We haven't seen any evidence that she has gained anything by putting those comments about Lawford and Boone into her autobiography. If anything, she may have lost points with people who do not wish to think of their favorite movie stars as bisexual or homosexual. 

 

Evidence is often internal. It's not always about things a stranger can see. I know of many lies that have been told out of anger and vindictiveness. My Irish family experience again.

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Evidence is often internal. It's not always about things a stranger can see. I know of many lies that have been told out of anger and vindictiveness. My Irish family experience again.

But that doesn't mean Miss O'Hara is like the people you know. I have never heard of evidence being internal. That's a new one!

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...I have never heard of evidence being internal. That's a new one!

 

WHAT?! Never heard of "drug mules" have ya, TB???!!! ;)

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WHAT?! Never heard of "drug mules" have ya, TB???!!! ;)

I am afraid I don't know what that means.

 

It's too easy to say Maureen O'Hara is lying about Lawford. Yet believe the other things she has written and said? We might as well say that everyone who posts on this board with even 1% of Irish blood flowing through their veins is lying and that nothing we read on this website is based on fact or presented with the slightest regard for the truth.

 

While we are at it, let's just say that all forms of non-heterosexual expression do not exist. Yeah, let's hold on to that fiction.

 

Incidentally, returning to the original topic, we have had Rock Hudson and Cary Grant this year featured as Star(s) of the Month on TCM. If that isn't gay friendly, I don't know what is. Wouldn't it be nice if some of our fellow posters could be as gay friendly as TCM's programming department...? Oh, wait, Rock Hudson wasn't really gay because he was married once-- and nobody can prove Cary Grant and Randolph Scott were lovers, even though they lived together and there are photos of them being tenderly affectionate. LOL

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Lawford's own mother said he was gay (to countless people)-- but his widow said he claimed to be bisexual which would probably be more accurate. I doubt O'Hara is making anything up-- she has nothing to gain by it. Most likely she is chronicling the sometimes crazy nature of show business (the movie business in particular).

 

There was a hotbed of homosexual activity going on at MGM in the 40s and 50s, despite Louis Mayer's wishes to eradicate it.  Van Johnson was certainly sexually active with men-- according to not only his peers (like Debbie Reynolds) but also his stepson. If Van Johnson is highly regarded, then there is no reason Peter Lawford shouldn't be highly regarded either and given a tribute or two.

"Nothing to gain by it", except publicity.

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"Nothing to gain by it", except publicity.

If she was going to lie, she could generate a lot more publicity by saying Tyrone Power was arrested during the making THE BLACK SWAN for hiring male prostitutes. She wouldn't pick Lawford. She knows that arrest records can be checked-- and even if Fox suppressed the situation with Lawford and Boone, there would have to be some sort of record of it in Australia. So until anyone checks into it and proves she was lying, I am willing to take her word for it. She has very little to gain by inventing such a story-- plus the credibility of her entire book would be called into question if she began inventing such things out of thin air.

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•Arturo:  The idea behind my suggestion of a month of Bette Davis TVM's being the focus was simply because I've observed there's a lot of Davis fans on here and instead of recycling the same theatrical movies over and over again I thought it would be an all right idea for a one-time-only/1 month SOTM tribute to change the filmed grease up a little bit.  How many fans have seen those later-career Tv movies she made?  Some of them are quite good (unfortunately 'Right of Way' with James Stewart isn't one of them; it's average and nothing more).  Let me also say this:  Note the heading of this thread.  Do I seriously think TCM would do that?  No, but I find nothing wrong with making suggestions just the same.  It's my time, my keyboard and my typing 'skills' at work.  And besides, what could possibly be wrong with discovering a movie you've not seen starring an actor you like, even if it is a made-for-television presentation?  I'm not so high-minded that I think any Bette Davis movie has to be a theatrical film in order to be 'Good'.

 

     Besides, one does not have to be a Bette Davis fan to enjoy "THE DARK SECRET OF HARVEST HOME" (the full-length version, that is). 

 

•finance:  You'll be happy to know that two of Susan Hayward's last three movies were made-for-TV films:  HEAT OF ANGER (1971) -and- SAY GOODBYE, MAGGIE COLE (1972).  "THE REVENGERS" from '72 was her last theatrical film, btw. 

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•Arturo:  The idea behind my suggestion of a month of Bette Davis TVM's being the focus was simply because I've observed there's a lot of Davis fans on here and instead of recycling the same theatrical movies over and over again I thought it would be an all right idea for a one-time-only/1 month SOTM tribute to change the filmed grease up a little bit.  How many fans have seen those later-career Tv movies she made?  Some of them are quite good (unfortunately 'Right of Way' with James Stewart isn't one of them; it's average and nothing more).  Let me also say this:  Note the heading of this thread.  Do I seriously think TCM would do that?  No, but I find nothing wrong with making suggestions just the same.  It's my time, my keyboard and my typing 'skills' at work.  And besides, what could possibly be wrong with discovering a movie you've not seen starring an actor you like, even if it is a made-for-television presentation?  I'm not so high-minded that I think any Bette Davis movie has to be a theatrical film in order to be 'Good'.

 

     Besides, one does not have to be a Bette Davis fan to enjoy "THE DARK SECRET OF HARVEST HOME" (the full-length version, that is). 

 

•finance:  You'll be happy to know that two of Susan Hayward's last three movies were made-for-TV films:  HEAT OF ANGER (1971) -and- SAY GOODBYE, MAGGIE COLE (1972).  "THE REVENGERS" from '72 was her last theatrical film, btw.

 

Well,.the title.of.the thread is "Who Should be SOTM, but Never Will Be". Bette Davis has been SOTM, possibly more than once. Maybe there could.be an evening of her TV movies, or an occasional one interspersed.among.the usual suspects when they do morning tribute to her, or whatever. But definitely not as the theme of a SOTM tribute. As I have stated, there are many stars who have yet to receive this monthly tribute on TCM, and I feel the programmers should focus on acquiring the rights.to enough films to make such a tribute possible, not find another way of repeating a star that has had this honor.

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Getting back to the original topic--

 

I don't think Douglas Fairbanks Jr. or Gene Raymond have been mentioned. Both were A-listers in the 30s, working with the best directors and some of the top female stars. And both were able to continue their motion picture careers well into the 50s before transitioning to television.

 

Either one of them would be good for a January slot, since that is when TCM usually picks a star that made pre-codes.

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Getting back to the original topic--

 

I don't think Douglas Fairbanks Jr. or Gene Raymond have been mentioned. Both were A-listers in the 30s, working with the best directors and some of the top female stars. And both were able to continue their motion picture careers well into the 50s before transitioning to television.

 

Either one of them would be good for a January slot, since that is when TCM usually picks a star that made pre-codes.

 

I would welcome Douglas Fairbanks Jr.    During Pre-Code Firdays,  I have seen him in a few movies and I really like what I see.  The guy was full of charm and cracking wise.   He kind of reminds me of a toned down Cagney (a lot of that also has to do with the style of movie making). 

 

As for Raymond;  sorry I can't second that.    But he did work with some of the best directors and top female stars so a day of his movies would contain a lot of good movies.   I just wouldn't be watching those movies because of Raymond.

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I would welcome Douglas Fairbanks Jr.    During Pre-Code Firdays,  I have seen him in a few movies and I really like what I see.  The guy was full of charm and cracking wise.   He kind of reminds me of a toned down Cagney (a lot of that also has to do with the style of movie making). 

 

As for Raymond;  sorry I can't second that.    But he did work with some of the best directors and top female stars so a day of his movies would contain a lot of good movies.   I just wouldn't be watching those movies because of Raymond.

Douglas Fairbanks Jr. might have a good chance of becoming SOTM not just because of the precodes, but also because of the action flicks he made in the late 30s and 40s. He did some good British films too.

 

I like Gene Raymond (a lot). He changed quite a bit, physically, as he aged. He was in an episode of Emergency! from the 1970s I had seen recently, and the voice was a dead give away, otherwise I wouldn't have realized it was him.

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how 'bout ann sothern?

 

besides her superb acting, i also thought she had great gams.

 

i'll cast a vote for ed begley too.

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Douglas Fairbanks Jr. might have a good chance of becoming SOTM not just because of the precodes, but also because of the action flicks he made in the late 30s and 40s. He did some good British films too.

 

Douglas would be a great star of the month! I knew him, in his later years -- utterly lovely man. And there are people whom RO could get to help introduce his movies: his widow, Vera Fairbanks; George Stevens, Jr.; and Jamie Niven (son of David), who is an executive at Sotheby's, and whom I believe is Douglas's godson.

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