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Just finished watching Gaslight for the one zillionth time (I believe that's a technical mathematical term). Although it was the first two (!) movies ever aired on TCM, during my 15+ years of watching, I think the network has shown some restraint with Gone With the Wind, so that maybe it hasn't aired quite as many times as CasablancaNorth by Northwest and some of those others (they also appear to limit their showings of The Wizard of Oz). Though I've seen it so many times I could almost recite the dialogue from beginning to end, I too am a bit concerned that political correctness may limit its airings in the future. Not sure how I feel about that. There's been a thread before about the more troublesome Birth of a Nation, which TCM hasn't shown for five years now.

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If TCM isn't going to run classic movies that don't have racism or racial stereotypes, we're going to see fewer movies and we'll really see some overplayed films.  We can learn from our film history and how it reflects our real history.

  

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I don't have any stats to back this up, but I've a feeling that the longer films (over 2.5 hours, like GWTW, Zhivago & even the touchy Birth of a Nation) may be more difficult to schedule, so correspondingly show up less often (despite Zhivago's recent rally of appearances).

We may have to wait Until The End of the World for Bis ans Ende der Welt to fill our screens for almost 5 hours again... ;)

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6 hours ago, limey said:

I don't have any stats to back this up, but I've a feeling that the longer films (over 2.5 hours, like GWTW, Zhivago & even the touchy Birth of a Nation) may be more difficult to schedule, so correspondingly show up less often (despite Zhivago's recent rally of appearances).

I don't think running length has a lot to do with it. TCM's programmers like to have days that just feature epics. During Easter weekend there are a slew of biblical epics; and during Memorial Day weekend there are always plenty of war epics. More than anything, themes determine which films get picked again and again. And if the stars are household names, or if the film was an important Oscar winner in several key categories.

Things that work against a title being scheduled is when it is something they have to borrow from Paramount or Universal. For instance, a Universal epic like SPARTACUS is going to air less because of how much they have to spend to lease it. Or if the content is too controversial-- notice that in all of Leonard Maltin's Treasures from the Disney Vault evenings, he has yet to show SONG OF THE SOUTH; and my guess is he won't.

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I've never seen "Moby Dick" before.  It's been shown on TCM, but it was many moons ago according to MovieCollectorOH's compendium.  It's also been some time since "Breaker Morant" has been shown.  I've seen "Breaker" several times, so it's not a particular 'must-see' for me, but for those who haven't seen it before, it would rate as a personal premiere, like "Moby" is for me.

I like Gregory Peck for the most part, and I get it when people say they find him to be too wooden as an actor.  As Captain Ahab, it would give the viewer a chance to see him play a role that, I assume, requires a higher degree of emotion and expressiveness compared to what we usually see in his movies.

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On 1/11/2018 at 11:30 PM, ChristineHoard said:

If TCM isn't going to run classic movies that don't have racism or racial stereotypes, we're going to see fewer movies and we'll really see some overplayed films.  We can learn from our film history and how it reflects our real history.

  

I'd like tcm to show the 1977 ABC-TV miniseries WASHINGTON: BEHIND CLOSED DOORS...

if that's too long I'll settle for WILL: G GORDON LIDDY with a helluva performance by Robert Conrad.

:D

 

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13 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:

I'd like tcm to show the 1977 ABC-TV miniseries WASHINGTON: BEHIND CLOSED DOORS...

if that's too long I'll settle for WILL: G GORDON LIDDY with a helluva performance by Robert Conrad.

:D

 

Personally Nip ol' boy, I'd rather just watch Conrad in those old Eveready battery commercials...

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(...'cause THEN "Mr. Macho" here would only be on TV screen for a minute or two)

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Hal Holbrook's Deep Throat references that Liddy candle thing in All the President's Men, but didn't Liddy just steal that line from Lawrence of Arabia? Did anyone ever call him out on his plagiarism, even if he was brave (or stupid) enough to stick his hand into the flame? There were no VCRs or TCM yet, but certainly someone Liddy knew was old enough to have seen the movie.

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On ‎1‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 11:30 PM, ChristineHoard said:

If TCM isn't going to run classic movies that don't have racism or racial stereotypes, we're going to see fewer movies and we'll really see some overplayed films.  We can learn from our film history and how it reflects our real history.

  

So true....but with the removal of statues, I fear it's only going to be a matter of time before they start doing it with films as well.

I hope not, but with the political sensitive culture we live in nowadays, anything is possible.

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On 1/11/2018 at 11:30 PM, ChristineHoard said:

If TCM isn't going to run classic movies that don't have racism or racial stereotypes, we're going to see fewer movies and we'll really see some overplayed films.  We can learn from our film history and how it reflects our real history.

  

I second and third this opinion. These films were made (usually) prior to 1960, not last week. And you can't understand where you are going if you don't understand where you have been. You've also got films like "The Best of Everything", made in 1959, where female college graduates of the ivy league start out...in the typing pool??? As a woman that just shows me how far we've come. I'd never want to not show these films just because they are anti-feminist. That's a sentiment that didn't even exist until the 1960s and really didn't catch on in American society at large until the 1980s.

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On 1/11/2018 at 9:30 PM, ChristineHoard said:

If TCM isn't going to run classic movies that don't have racism or racial stereotypes, we're going to see fewer movies and we'll really see some overplayed films.  We can learn from our film history and how it reflects our real history.

 

I think you have a double negative there, but I'd agree about learning from past history - warts and all.

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3 hours ago, Bethluvsfilms said:

So true....but with the removal of statues, I fear it's only going to be a matter of time before they start doing it with films as well.

I hope not, but with the political sensitive culture we live in nowadays, anything is possible.

They?????     Uh,  statues can be removed by city or county officials since they are owned by them or because they are on public property.  

Films are not owned by government officials so they can't be 'removed' by them.   Of course the party that owns the copyright could decide to withhold them but this is very rare.   

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