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As part of the Summer of Darkness series on TCM in July:

 

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TOO LATE FOR TEARS (1949) with Lizabeth Scott, Don DeFore & Dan Duryea is on the schedule-- on the 17th.

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As part of the Summer of Darkness series on TCM in July:

 

 

 

TOO LATE FOR TEARS (1949) with Lizabeth Scott, Don DeFore & Dan Duryea is on the schedule-- on the 17th.

 

I assume this will be the restored version.   Great to see this film on TCM.   This Summer of Darkness series is going to be great with other first time films like Women on the Run.

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I assume this will be the restored version.   Great to see this film on TCM.   This Summer of Darkness series is going to be great with other first time films like Women on the Run.

Yes, it's nice to have two major TCM premieres in this series. Looking forward to it!

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Coming up...later this week...

 

Love the promo for the film TCM is showing called Killer Bait (the 1955 re-issued title).

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On Roku, there is a free channel called 'Cafe Noir' that has a very poor-looking copy of this film. You have to watch it with commercials (sort of like Hulu). 

 

Has anyone seen it on Cafe Noir?

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On Roku, there is a free channel called 'Cafe Noir' that has a very poor-looking copy of this film. You have to watch it with commercials (sort of like Hulu). 

 

Has anyone seen it on Cafe Noir?

I have a DVDr of it of European R2 origin it's not great. but I am looking forward to the restoration.

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I have a DVDr of it of European R2 origin it's not great. but I am looking forward to the restoration.

 

Does your version have a title card that says Too Late for Tears or the reissued one of Killer Bait?  

 

While I view Killer Bait as an over the top name for a movie there is something about it that I kind of like.

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I have it on the Dangerous Dames Collection from Pop Flix division of Allegro Corp., released in 2009.  Supposedly digitally remastered, but the qualty is not too good.  It is almost too "noir" in that the night time scenes are very dark.

Hopefully, the TCM verison will be better.

It's not a bad little movie, but not a top tier Noir.

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Does your version have a title card that says Too Late for Tears or the reissued one of Killer Bait?  

 

While I view Killer Bait as an over the top name for a movie there is something about it that I kind of like.

It's, Too Late For Tears

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I decided I couldn't wait till Friday and I wound up watching TOO LATE FOR TEARS on Cafe Noir. As I said before, the print quality was rather inferior and there were commercial interruptions. But at least I did manage to see it. I don't think it's as good as I expected it to be, however.

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Film will be re-airing on TCM in December. It will included for the end-of-the-year In Memoriam segment honoring Lizabeth Scott (who passed earlier this year).

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Film will be re-airing on TCM in December. It will included for the end-of-the-year In Memoriam segment honoring Lizabeth Scott (who passed earlier this year).

Lizabeth Scott was such a distinctive actress; she seemed made-to-order for noir.

 

I loved her in "Dead Reckoning", in which Humphrey Bogart is constantly calling her "Mike".

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At this very minute, I'm watching TOO LATE FOR TEARS on Amazon Prime. It had been several months since I'd seen it...wanted to re-view it.

 

The pairing of Lizabeth Scott with Dan Duryea is truly inspired. They're both so good at playing rotten characters.

 

Roy Huggins was the screenwriter...later known for crime dramas on Rockford Files and Hunter.

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Thanks to the Film Noir Foundation for restoring TOO LATE FOR TEARS and to TCM for airing it. According to the FNF's website, these films have been brought to new audiences:

 

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Six or seven years ago I got a DVD compilation of femme fatale noir films at Hastings.

 

They were grainy TV prints, but the whole thing cost only about $6 and I got about 10 movies.

 

Blonde Ice and Too Late for Tears were the two that stood out in my mind.

 

I think I've seen Lizabeth Scott perform exceedingly well in the big budget films like Martha Ivers and Dead Reckoning.

 

But Too Late for Tears is entirely her driven vehicle and she absolutely is in control of every scene that she appears in. She's so strong in this movie that I think she's even in control of scenes that she does not appear in!

 

Her performance as a greed -driven control freak is not only compelling but sympathetic, believe it or not. The only other movie that ever made me feel this way about murdering thieves was Bonnie and Clyde.

 

Lizabeth is supported superbly by these fine actors: Arthur Kennedy, Don Defore and the Great Dan Duryea.

 

Looking at Dan Duryea in this movie you got to say he should have picked up Alan Ladd's mantle as a big Film Noir star,but major stardom, it never happened for him.

 

I grew up watching Double Indemnity so I couldn't help but see a few similarities. Yet, at the same time this is a cheaper compact movie that almost relied entirely upon the Star's performance.

 

Because, the writing doesn't compare with Billy Wilder, but the plot is feasible, if not entirely probable.

 

As you probably know by now I really love this movie. And I'm happy to hear that soon they'll be some really good prints of it out there.

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Six or seven years ago I got a DVD compilation of femme fatale noir films at Hastings.

 

They were grainy TV prints, but the whole thing cost only about $6 and I got about 10 movies.

 

Blonde Ice and Too Late for Tears were the two that stood out in my mind.

 

I think I've seen Lizabeth Scott perform exceedingly well in the big budget films like Martha Ivers and Dead Reckoning.

 

But Too Late for Tears is entirely her driven vehicle and she absolutely is in control of every scene that she appears in. She's so strong in this movie that I think she's even in control of scenes that she does not appear in!

 

Her performance as a greed -driven control freak is not only compelling but sympathetic, believe it or not. The only other movie that ever made me feel this way about murdering thieves was Bonnie and Clyde.

 

Lizabeth is supported superbly by these fine actors: Arthur Kennedy, Don Defore and the Great Dan Duryea.

 

Looking at Dan Duryea in this movie you got to say he should have picked up Alan Ladd's mantle as a big Film Noir star,but major stardom, it never happened for him.

 

I grew up watching Double Indemnity so I couldn't help but see a few similarities. Yet, at the same time this is a cheaper compact movie that almost relied entirely upon the Star's performance.

 

Because, the writing doesn't compare with Billy Wilder, but the plot is feasible, if not entirely probable.

 

As you probably know by now I really love this movie. And I'm happy to hear that soon they'll be some really good prints of it out there.

I have a set with these two and four others.  They are not so much grainy as dark.  However, I watched TLFT on TCM recently and it seemed just as dark, particularly the significant night time scenes.

Regardless, it is a good movie and a better copy would definitely make it more enjoyable.  My set also has Lady of Burlesque (Barbara Stanwyck) and Martha Ivers (Stanwyck) which I like more.  

And I do think Scott was very good in Ivers and Dead Reckoning.

 

I have the Route 66 DVD set and Dan Duryea is in two episodes where he is very good.

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. . . Too Late for Tears or the reissued one of Killer Bait?  

 

While I view Killer Bait as an over the top name for a movie there is something about it that I kind of like.

 

I like the French title "translation" the best: La Tigresse. In fact, I think it would have worked en français for English-speaking audiences. "Tiger" is Dan Duryea's nickname for Lizabeth Scott, and it is perfect for her character.

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. . .I have the Route 66 DVD set and Dan Duryea is in two episodes where he is very good.

 

Do you happen to remember the two episodes of Route 66 in Dan Duryea appeared? I'd love to see them again.

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On 9/24/2017 at 4:29 PM, Marianne said:

Do you happen to remember the two episodes of Route 66 in Dan Duryea appeared? I'd love to see them again.

He guest starred in "Don't Count Stars" and "A Cage in Search of a Bird." He also appeared on Naked City in "Daughter Am I in My Father's House."

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Lizabeth Scott is absolutely one of my favorite noir actresses. I love her acting and voice. The perfect femme fatale. "Too Late For Tears" is a noir staple. A classic. You have Scott and Duryea - how could it not be great?! I found a digitally remastered DVD of the movie many years ago and have watched it countless times. I was surprised to see the scene with Scott telling Duryea that they have to kill the sister still containing the slurred audio track, but who cares?! A gem for sure. 

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1 hour ago, decojoe67 said:

Lizabeth Scott is absolutely one of my favorite noir actresses. I love her acting and voice. The perfect femme fatale. "Too Late For Tears" is a noir staple. A classic. You have Scott and Duryea - how could it not be great?! I found a digitally remastered DVD of the movie many years ago and have watched it countless times. I was surprised to see the scene with Scott telling Duryea that they have to kill the sister still containing the slurred audio track, but who cares?! A gem for sure. 

So you saw Too Late For Tears before the U.C.L.A. restoration and TCM showing the film?   I ask because you say it is a 'noir staple'.      I've been into noir (and TCM) for decades and I wasn't able to see this film before TCM showed it.    So I view the film as an unknown and hidden noir gem instead of a staple. 

 

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12 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

So you saw Too Late For Tears before the U.C.L.A. restoration and TCM showing the film?   I ask because you say it is a 'noir staple'.      I've been into noir (and TCM) for decades and I wasn't able to see this film before TCM showed it.    So I view the film as an unknown and hidden noir gem instead of a staple. 

 

I agree with your comments. I should say it has "become" a film noir staple. I actually saw the original unrestored print on a VHS tape in the '90's. I'm not sure where I got it. Possibly from "Movies Unlimited" which had rare, but often expensive, movies. I never saw it on TV and only knew about it after reading a book about the best noir movies. Back then they would often mention that the movie was not available in any format. 

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22 hours ago, decojoe67 said:

I agree with your comments. I should say it has "become" a film noir staple. I actually saw the original unrestored print on a VHS tape in the '90's. I'm not sure where I got it. Possibly from "Movies Unlimited" which had rare, but often expensive, movies. I never saw it on TV and only knew about it after reading a book about the best noir movies. Back then they would often mention that the movie was not available in any format. 

I have the book Film Noir (Ward \ Silver),  and I check off each noir I see and To Late for Tears was the #1 film remaining on this bucket list until TCM showed the restored print.     

Note that a common topic for us noir fans here is the wish TCM would show more 'B' noir films especially from non-major studios,  since most of the noir staples we have seen (like many many times!).

Also,  welcome to this forum.   Great to have another knowledgeable noir fan around here!  

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3 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

I have the book Film Noir (Ward \ Silver),  and I check off each noir I see and To Late for Tears was the #1 film remaining on this bucket list until TCM showed the restored print.     

Note that a common topic for us noir fans here is the wish TCM would show more 'B' noir films especially from non-major studios,  since most of the noir staples we have seen (like many many times!).

Also,  welcome to this forum.   Great to have another knowledgeable noir fan around here! 

Thank you very much. I was so glad to see this Forum. I've loved Film Noir since I was a teen and saw "Woman In The Window" on TV. At that time I didn't even know it was a genre, but when I first read about it I was amazed to see all the old films I like listed! One of the last on my bucket list was "Devil Thumbs A Ride", which I was so relieved to finally see and put in my collection - and it's a beautiful print. Great little "B". I sometimes feel I've seen them all, but just recently I came across "Apology For Murder" which is pretty good if only for seeing Ann Savage. I don't expect to find any more that have a punch like the classics, but I do hope there is one or two still uncovered. I'm with you guys with "B" movies being shown. They're often the grittiest!

 

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