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This seems to be a modern term. But I wonder if there are any classic films from the 30s, 40s or 50s that we can say have bromantic elements in them...?

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I had a thought about this thread today while I was riding around town. And Ronald Reagan came to mind...twice.

 

First, I think Reagan and Errol Flynn have a bromance in SANTA FE TRAIL. I would also say that Reagan and Robert Cummings have a bromance in KINGS ROW.

 

Agree/disagree...?

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I had a thought about this thread today while I was riding around town. And Ronald Reagan came to mind...twice.

 

First, I think Reagan and Errol Flynn have a bromance in SANTA FE TRAIL. I would also say that Reagan and Robert Cummings have a bromance in KINGS ROW.

 

Agree/disagree...?

Jarrod, yes and yes.

 

There are just so many examples of "bromance" throughout the years on the big screen.

 

One of my absolute favorites is the "bromance" between Sam Waterston (Nick Carraway) and Robert Redford (Jay Gatsby) in "The Great Gatsby".

 

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The one between Sebastian Flyte (Anthony Andrews) and Jeremy Irons (Charles Ryder) in the TV mini-series version of "Brideshead Revisited" - the relationship had no sex, but it was terribly intense - the later film version changed the dynamics -

 

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One of my absolute favorites is the "bromance" between Sam Waterston (Nick Carraway) and Robert Redford (Jay Gatsby) in "The Great Gatsby".

 

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I probably need to re-view this film.

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Jarrod, yes and yes.

 

There are just so many examples of "bromance" throughout the years on the big screen.

 

One of my absolute favorites is the "bromance" between Sam Waterston (Nick Carraway) and Robert Redford (Jay Gatsby) in "The Great Gatsby".

 

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This is more evident in the last remake in which Nick (Toby Maguire)  and Leonardo Dicaprio's Gatsby had more chemistry with each other - than Leo had with the girl playing Daisy.

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In MGM's "Honeymoon Hotel", when Robert Morse is abandoned at the altar by fiancee Ann Helm, his good friend/roomie Robert Goulet suggests that they should honor the "honeymoon reservations" anyway (?!).

 

The bromance in this film is very interesting, because Morse and Goulet never really realize how attached at the hip they are.

 

Needless to say, the two guys never get "any".

 

And why should they - they already have each other.

 

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"Road To Singapore" - the gay subtext in this film is just SO OBVIOUS - was anybody at the time aware of it? - my God, they even OCCUPY THE SAME BED! - as a comedy team, I find them "swarmy" - because they are just so close to being "lovers" - in fact, they probably are, but would never admit it - after all, Dorothy Lamour is around to do all of that housekeeping - by the way, where does she sleep?!

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"Road To Singapore" - the gay subtext in this film is just SO OBVIOUS - was anybody at the time aware of it? - my God, they even OCCUPY THE SAME BED! - as a comedy team, I find them "swarmy" - because they are just so close to being "lovers" - in fact, they probably are, but would never admit it - after all, Dorothy Lamour is around to do all of that housekeeping - by the way, where does she sleep?!

 

I was watching THE SILENT WORLD again, a DVD I have had for a while and have seen multiple times. We see Jacques-Yves Cousteau (who married twice and had kids) leading an all-MALE expedition in the early fifties. Even the Dachshund on board is male (cue shot of him sleeping on his back exposing his "manhood".) Some of the material is not critter friendly: dynamite at a coral reef is used in the name of science (disturbing scene of dead fish in the water) and a baby s-p-e-r-m whale has to be put out of her misery after the Calypso dangerously glides into a herd for closer examination and she gets cut severely by the ship.

 

Yet the fun about this film and KON-TIKI (the black and white documentary, not the 2011 dramatization, includes some matter-of-fact full frontal nudity) is all of the bro-bonding with NO women present. Everybody is shirtless with their swimsuits hardly staying up (and probably off frequently when cameras aren't rolling), along with plenty of hugging and bro-buddy affection. You know these guys had to periodically get a "release" with so many months at sea. Maybe they didn't have full on action with each other but there certainly was some mutual "satisfaction" going on. Just like at war time when the soldiers in the trenches couldn't possibly have spent the entire time shooting at the enemy and merely waiting patiently to find a brothel or furlough time with their sweetheart back at home.

 

So, of course, there is always something questionable about the buddy adventures when Dorothy Lamour wasn't around.

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I really do hate films like "Road To Singapore", which are unable to acknowledge the full extent of the relationship - the real relationship - between the two men.

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I was watching THE SILENT WORLD again, a DVD I have had for a while and have seen multiple times. We see Jacques-Yves Cousteau (who married twice and had kids) leading an all-MALE expedition in the early fifties. Even the Dachshund on board is male (cue shot of him sleeping on his back exposing his "manhood".) Some of the material is not critter friendly: dynamite at a coral reef is used in the name of science (disturbing scene of dead fish in the water) and a baby s-p-e-r-m whale has to be put out of her misery after the Calypso dangerously glides into a herd for closer examination and she gets cut severely by the ship.

 

Yet the fun about this film and KON-TIKI (the black and white documentary, not the 2011 dramatization, includes some matter-of-fact full frontal nudity) is all of the bro-bonding with NO women present. Everybody is shirtless with their swimsuits hardly staying up (and probably off frequently when cameras aren't rolling), along with plenty of hugging and bro-buddy affection. You know these guys had to periodically get a "release" with so many months at sea. Maybe they didn't have full on action with each other but there certainly was some mutual "satisfaction" going on. Just like at war time when the soldiers in the trenches couldn't possibly have spent the entire time shooting at the enemy and merely waiting patiently to find a brothel or furlough time with their sweetheart back at home.

 

So, of course, there is always something questionable about the buddy adventures when Dorothy Lamour wasn't around.

I have not see this film in a long time but I did get the bromantic vibe from the trailer

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I really do hate films like "Road To Singapore", which are unable to acknowledge the full extent of the relationship - the real relationship - between the two men.

You know that the film is product of it's time- it's all subtext and played for laughs

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On 12/11/2017 at 5:37 PM, rayban said:

Francis Lacombrade and Didier Haudepin in "This Special Friendship" -

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Has nobody seen this fine film?  Its' innocence is so pure.

 

 

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On ‎8‎/‎29‎/‎2015 at 7:02 PM, TopBilled said:

This seems to be a modern term. But I wonder if there are any classic films from the 30s, 40s or 50s that we can say have bromantic elements in them...?

Classic war movies and westerns are particularly likely to have bromantic elements. The very early talkie (and Academy Award winner) Wings famously has a death scene between Buddy Rogers and Richard Arlen which has an almost weirdly erotic charge. For westerns I immediately thought of Cecil B. DeMille's The Plainsman, in which Gary Cooper (Wild Bill Hickock) and James Ellison (Buffalo Bill Cody) have a rivalry over Jean Arthur but when Cody is injured Hickock tends to him lovingly. Exclusively male environments like you find in prison and crime films also have a higher likelihood of male bonding to the point of being bromance.

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I wonder if it's possible to think of the relationship between the two guys in Of Mice and Men as a bromance. The character of George seems to be a loner with no particular interest in women, who is pleased by Lenny's company in spite of Lenny's need for repetitive reassurance. Their shared dream is to save enough to buy a farm together. They have a very easy camaraderie when they're alone together. It's when they interact with others that George becomes tense and vigilant, obviously because of his friend's (cousin's) deficiencies as a social being. George says he owed it to his aunt to care for Lenny, but the relationship also seems to satisfy a deeper need in George for a sustained relationship and, of course, Lenny is all need.

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28 minutes ago, DougieB said:

I wonder if it's possible to think of the relationship between the two guys in Of Mice and Men as a bromance. The character of George seems to be a loner with no particular interest in women, who is pleased by Lenny's company in spite of Lenny's need for repetitive reassurance. Their shared dream is to save enough to buy a farm together. They have a very easy camaraderie when they're alone together. It's when they interact with others that George becomes tense and vigilant, obviously because of his friend's (cousin's) deficiencies as a social being. George says he owed it to his aunt to care for Lenny, but the relationship also seems to satisfy a deeper need in George for a sustained relationship and, of course, Lenny is all need.

Interesting I think it's all in the casting of the leads.

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 Steve ( Captain America) Rogers and Sam (The Falcon) Wilson have a bromantic relationship in "Captain America and Winter Soldier"  - the actors Chris Evans and Anthony Mackie have real chemistry and their scenes together have a **** erotic subtext. https://youtu.be/kJfVLddU0vI  Of course we know that Cap's true love is Bucky ;)

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2 hours ago, jaragon said:

Interesting I think it's all in the casting of the leads.

There's a strongly bromatic relationship between James Cagney and George Raft in "Each Dawn I Die".

And an inappropriately? bromatic relationship between Randolph Scott and Claude Jarman, Jr. in "Hangman's Knot".

The Western genre is very "open" to such relationships.

Because, in this genre, men often really need each other.

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47 minutes ago, rayban said:

There's a strongly bromatic relationship between James Cagney and George Raft in "Each Dawn I Die".

And an inappropriately? bromatic relationship between Randolph Scott and Claude Jarman, Jr. in "Hangman's Knot".

The Western genre is very "open" to such relationships.

Because, in this genre, men often really need each other.

I think in any situation fictional or real in which men find themselves cut off from civilization and with just a close male friend for companionship there is more potential for bromance and beyond;)

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