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Under Graham-Cassidy, Alaska (Murkowski) and Montana would be exempt from Medicaid limits.  Millions of Americans lose coverage so thousands of Alaskans won't.

 

www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/09/21/cassidy-graham-bill-provision-would-exempt-alaska-montana-from-a-cap-on-medicaid-spending/?undefined=&utm_term=.6d47085ce17a&wpisrc=nl_politics&wpmm=1

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Under Graham-Cassidy, Alaska (Murkowski) and Montana would be exempt from Medicaid limits.  Millions of Americans lose coverage so thousands of Alaskans won't.

 

www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/09/21/cassidy-graham-bill-provision-would-exempt-alaska-montana-from-a-cap-on-medicaid-spending/?undefined=&utm_term=.6d47085ce17a&wpisrc=nl_politics&wpmm=1

 

Trying to buy off Murkowski.  I wonder what they're offering Collins for her vote.  My senators are in the tank for any Republican policies regardless of how odious they are so we get diddly here in Georgia - we're not even worthy of a bribe attempt.

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MSNBC Panel Trolls Sanders With 'Scurrilous, Illogical' Assault on Medicare for All-

 

Pundits are slamming the Vermont senator for helping GOP's Obamacare repeal efforts, when he is actually doing the opposite.......

 

Adam Johnson, a media analyst for Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, pointed out that the attacks launched by the "Morning Joe" panel and others are hardly original.

Johnson labels such critics "concern trolls," defined as people who claim to support a given objective but cannot act on this support due to vaguely expressed "concerns."......

 

As "Morning Joe" chided Sanders for only "looking out for himself," the Vermont senator continued his aggressive push to ensure the failure of the Graham-Cassidy bill—which will be brought to the Senate floor for a vote by the end of next week....

 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/09/22/msnbc-panel-trolls-sanders-scurrilous-illogical-assault-medicare-all

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Republicans will face Bernie Sanders in CNN health care debate-

 

"On Monday, the Republican crafters of that bill, Sens. Lindsey Graha, R-S.C., and Bill Cassidy, R-La., will have a chance to explain why that is during a nationally televised debate with Vermont Independent Bernie Sanders.

CNN will host the primetime town hall that will also feature Minnesota Democratic Senator Amy Klobuchar. Moderated by CNN's Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, the lawmakers will have 90 minutes to face off against each other and face questions from the audience........

 

http://www.salon.com/2017/09/22/republicans-will-face-bernie-sanders-in-cnn-health-care-debate/

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On a lighter note:

 

Experts Warn Repeated Attempts At Eradicating Obamacare May Have Created Ultra-Resistant Super Law

 

WASHINGTON—After persistent efforts by Republicans to wipe out the healthcare law over the past seven years, experts warned Wednesday that the repeated attempts at eradicating Obamacare may have created an ultra-resistant super law. “Given the frequency with which lawmakers have unsuccessfully tried to exterminate the Affordable Care Act, the growing resiliency of this legislation could soon be insurmountable,” said Institute for Healthcare Improvement senior fellow Curt Greenwood, adding that the landmark healthcare overhaul could grow impervious to any repeal measures or even major amendments within just a few short congressional sessions. “What we once thought would be eliminated by now will instead require considerably more time and resources. And at a certain point, no interventions on the part of any branch of government will be sufficient to overcome the ACA’s built-in resistance.” According to Greenwood, however, hope remained that sufficiently high doses of single-payer healthcare legislation could potentially offer a cure.

 

http://www.theonion.com/article/experts-warn-repeated-attempts-eradicating-obamaca-56549

 

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Trying to buy off Murkowski.  I wonder what they're offering Collins for her vote.  My senators are in the tank for any Republican policies regardless of how odious they are so we get diddly here in Georgia - we're not even worthy of a bribe attempt.

Actually GA, like SC, will get more.  Because it did not expand Medicaid under ACA, it will now be eligible for more Medicaid money.

I have great faith that the GOP leadership in the Senate will find a way to bribe, err entice, enough senators to vote for Graham-Cassidy.

The Senate HELP committee has already caved.

Then it is off to the House.  Supposedly though the House will only be allowed an up or down vote on it.

 

If all that fails, then after Oct 01, McConnell will change Senate rules to where it only takes 51 votes to repeal ACA. Then they will work with extremist in Senate and House to get a repeal bill passed.

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Are the attempts to overturn the ACA EVER going to end?  I guess as long as wealthy donors keep threatening Republicans that they will withhold their $$$ this will go on ad nauseum.

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Are the attempts to overturn the ACA EVER going to end?  

 

Yes.

 

The attempts will end when enough people are elected who are willing to replace the present healthcare system with single payer.

 

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Graham and Cassidy have revised their bill to include more bribes to senators.

The funding for Alaska not only will not be reduced, but now will actually increase and the funding for Maine will increase by 43%.

.www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/new-version-of-health-care-bill-will-help-alaska-and-maine--home-of-two-holdout-senators/2017/09/25/24697f62-a188-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?undefined=&utm_term=.9f9076797da7&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1

 

And Trump continues to attack anyone who opposes Graham-Cassidy.

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I'll remain skeptical that repeal of the ACA is finally killed off until a vote against repeal and replace is taken and realized, or the Senate leadership calls off the vote.

 

The latest CBO report on Graham-Cassidy said a trillion dollars would be cut from Medicaid over the next decade.  Knowing most Republicans, rather than just saving that money, they would have it shifted to the Pentagon to pay for military expenditures for our troops' presence in Asia and Europe who are destined to remain in those places in perpetuity.

 

Even if the ACA survives this round of repeal-itis, it could still fail without proper funding and oversight in the future.  I don't agree with Ted Cruz on much of anything, but he recently said Graham-Cassidy, like other repeal measures does not address the unfettered increase of insurance premiums and out-of-pocket expenses many people are having trouble paying.  Lisa Murkowski has also raised this point too.

 

When it comes to median incomes, Alaska consistently ranks high and Mississippi ranks low, based in large part to the cost of living in both places.  Yet, whatever your income in either place, you pay the same tax rate to the IRS.  We have to figure out what's fair to ALL Americans regarding health care and insurance costs, so people everywhere are paying roughly the same price with little deviation.  There are a lot of talented people in this country who could come up with a solution to some of these issues, and I can't understand why we don't utilize their ideas and expertise.

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CNN Healthcare Debate-

 

 

"We are going to press on. It's OK to vote. It's OK to fall short, if you do, for an idea that you believe in," South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham told CNN's Jake Tapper and Dana Bash at town hall debate in Washington.
 
But Democratic Sen. Bernie Sanders blasted the Republican approach, which must pass by an end-of-the-month deadline or go down to defeat as a "disaster," and pushed for short-term fixes to Obamacare and his own long-term plan for a universal health care system....He said the country has to come up with "serious" fixes in the short term.

 

"We cannot be the only major nation on earth not to see health care as a right," Sanders said...

 
Klobuchar said that the GOP plan "passes the buck to the states but doesn't give them the bucks to cover people," and urged her colleagues across the aisle to join in fixing the Affordable Care Act....
 
Cassidy and Graham countered Monday by suggesting that their bill is the only alternative to a Democratic push to build a single payer, government-run health care system.....
 
Audience members at the debate raised questions about the positions of both sides, sometimes offering emotional testimony about their own conditions and experience....
 
 
 

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On health care, let's do the impossible-

 

".....single-payer is a no-brainer for CEOs in particular: It would allow them to save money, give workers a raise, have more money to put into research and development, and boost international competitiveness.

 
To be sure, "Medicare for All" is not likely to happen overnight. Republicans currently control the levers of government, and could potentially expand their majority in the Senate in 2018 -- and, then, try yet again to repeal the Affordable Care Act when the Democratic Party is even weaker.
 
That is precisely the point the Sanders movement has been trying to make: Establishment economics and policies that benefit elites are bad politics, not to mention damaging to the lives of millions of people.
The Democratic Party will be stronger if it embraces a transformational vision.
 

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Repeal of ACA will not be voted upon.  Senate will now go on to tax reform and other issues.

Meanwhile there is no plan to fund ACA at current levels.

 

www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/senate-gop-effort-to-unwind-the-affordable-care-act-faces-critical-test-tuesday/2017/09/26/097b2dc2-a25f-11e7-b14f-f41773cd5a14_story.html?utm_term=.82b00446d548&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%252Bnation&wpmk=1

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The Painful Side Of Positive Health Care Marketing-

 

 

".......Hospitals are spending more than ever on advertising, he says, and, as with other products, that advertising is filled with lots of promises. He says you don't see the same promises in the pharmaceutical industry. Their ads are regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, which is why they have to list all those side effects and show scientific backing for their claims.

 

"Hospitals aren't held to any of those [FDA] standards at all," Calkins says. "So a hospital can go out and say, 'This is where miracles happen. And here's Joe. Joe was about to die. And now Joe is going to live forever.' "......

 

"It's the basics of marketing," Jaggar says. "In order to sell products or services, you have to sell hope."....

 

...at the heart of a lot of the ad campaigns by health care providers — with slogans like "Thrive" and "Smile Out." Wallace says the subtext of the ads is that people like her — who get sick and will die — maybe just aren't being positive enough....

 

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/10/08/555370189/the-painful-side-of-positive-health-care-marketing?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=202708

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