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Healthcare in America?

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10 hours ago, LawrenceA said:

He's free to choose not to have vaccinations, but then he has to accept the consequences of those decisions, such as the rest of society not wanting to associate with him. Maybe he can start an anti-vaxxer club for all the other dip***** that attend his school.

By the way, regarding your previous post about having measles, etc... and not suffering much because of it. You should try reading up on what it was like before measles vaccines were common place. Millions of kids died, and many kids who contracted measles ended up with permanent brain damage. Which may explain a few things...

"Measles affects about 20 million people a year, primarily in the developing areas of Africa and Asia. While often regarded as a childhood illness, it can affect people of any age. It is one of the leading vaccine-preventable disease causes of death. In 1980, 2.6 million people died of it, and in 1990, 545,000 died; by 2014, global vaccination programs had reduced the number of deaths from measles to 73,000. Rates of disease and deaths, however, increased in 2017 due to a decrease in immunization."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles 

 

If vaccines were kept clean like during the 1950' - 60's we wouldn't have this fear of having chidren coming down with autism.  

 

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-Now NOISE causes Cancer???  :blink:

just WHO are the mysterious"THEY" that say that??

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The HillVerified account @thehill 16h16 hours ago

President Trump: "If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations, your house just went down 75% in value.

And they say the noise causes cancer."

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Maybe INDIRECTLY (by transmission). It's been debatable if living near high tension power lines contribute to cancer. This applies to all forms of power generation  The only thing wind turbines cause is bird chop suey.

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My hats off the Appalachian Power whom redone our local power grid back during the late 1980's - 90's.  Located much of the high tension lines along hilltops avoiding people's homes / property.:)  Do need to do better with tree trimming to avoid outages.:(
 

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The InterceptVerified account @theintercept 19m19 minutes ago

 

Medicaid covers long-term care services, but to access it, individuals have to deplete their assets until they have less than $2,000 in savings,

a system that literally incentivizes going into poverty.

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Washington Becomes First State to Approve Publicly Funded Long-Term Care

https://theintercept.com/2019/04/26/washington-state-long-term-care/

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Corporate Media's Open Hostility to Medicare-for-All

 

".....In late 2018, polls from Reuters and Harris found that at least 70 percent of Americans supported the proposal—including majorities of Republicans.

However, corporate media appear to be almost univocally against the idea, with the flow of doom-mongering stories increasing to a roaring flood as the notion gains more traction among the public........

....a study from the libertarian Mercatus Center accidentally proved Sanders’ plan would actually save the country trillions, with private savings more than offsetting increased public costs. And economist and FAIR contributor Dean Baker found that more government involvement in the pharmaceutical industry would save money and speed up drug development.

Nevertheless, other media outlets have kept up the relentless flow of negativity, dismissing Medicare for All as “too fragile” (Yahoo!4/22/19), “politically impractical” (Atlantic3/18/19), “fool’s gold” (Fox News1/11/19), a “populist bromide” (National Review9/11/17) and a “singularly bad idea” (Forbes9/28/17)......

 

Brookings is funded in part by private healthcare donations, from groups like HCA and United Healthcare, a dependency that highlights a serious conflict of interest that is endemic in corporate media reporting on healthcare (and, indeed, on any major economic or political issue). This system of interlocking and conflicting interests is rarely acknowledged by corporate media, who also rely on medical and pharmaceutical companies for funding through advertising and patronage. ........

...... corporate media oppose Medicare for All not because of legitimate queries and concerns about its implementation, but because they are owned by investors with stakes in highly profitable medical and pharmaceutical companies—the very same companies that supply them with millions of dollars each year in advertising.

With so many candidates endorsing Medicare for All, it seems the 2020 election will force America to decide ....

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/corporate-medias-open-hostility-to-medicare-for-all/

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Sanders and others claims of cost savings on health care expenditures are unproven and not likely to actually occur. They assume huge reductions in physician, hospital, pharmaceutical and other current expenditures that are highly unlikely.

However, the ongoing issue that will sink the Dems in 2020 is that even if the miracle cost reductions were to occur, it still requires doubling, at a minimum, current corporate and personal income taxes.  Not to mention the destruction of the health insurance industry and many hospitals which would in turn lead to a recession which would lead to reduced income tax revenue.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/08/the-cost-of-medicare-for-all/

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You pay more because in America the rich investors must make a profit from people's unavoidable disabilities.
 
In Canada I had my baby for free, prenatal care was free, ultrasound was free. They had to keep us in the hospital for an extra week, still free. The staff was wonderful and caring.
 
The reason other countries can afford healthcare is because other countries aren't bombing the **** out of other countries. The US Government has been in the pockets of the Military Industrial Complex and Big Pharma for a very long time.
 
In 2014 here in Belfast,the north of Ireland I underwent a triple bypass,didn't have to pay for the operation,the care or the medication,also receive aftercare and free prescriptions when discharged from the hospital.From 2014 I've had free minor operations for skin cancer and benefit from free dental care,free eye examinations,all on the National Health System,it's not perfect but it's far better than the "healthcare"(?) in the U.S.
 
$12,000 to have a baby in the United States. $60 to have a baby in Finland. Here in Canada, it costs $0 to have a baby. I had a spinal surgery that in the United States, without insurance it would have cost me about $145,000 but here in Canada, $0. I know Americans like to say "ya but you have to pay higher Taxes. My wife and I make around $147,000 a year and we usually pay around $23,000 in taxes after deductions. Now that gives us free healthcare, 18 months off with pay after having a baby so the mother can truly bond, here in Ontario medications are free for people 25 years old and under, and those are just a couple things we have the United states doesn't. My wife and I have 4 kids and I'm wondering if in the United States, does a family of 6 who makes $147,000 a year pay less or more than $23,000 a year for both their taxes and an insurance policy for 2 adults and 4 kids and the insurance policy has to be 100% medical coverage for everything and no deductible. Also remember that Canadians live longer, have lower infant mortality rates and lower rates of mothers dying during birth, lower rates of complications after surgery, lower rates of staph infections and my favorite difference between the United States healthcare system and Canada's, I'm talking my absolute favorite thing, nobody in Canada ever dies because they can't **** afford it.
 
American exceptionalism, in action, how sad...every western country has one form or another of universal health care but the US knows best and most Americans love paying through the nose for their pills, going bankrupt and in some cases outright die because some HMO CEO needs a new BMW....but you know...USA!!!USA!!!
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Aetna CEO to Reap About $500M if CVS Deal Closes

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Yahoo Finance VideoDecember 5, 2017

It could be the biggest deal of the year-- CVS's 69 billion dollar plan to buy Aetna-- and it might see some major payouts. Aetna's CEO, Mark Bertolini, is set to reap half a billion dollars if the deal closes - this according to the Wall Street Journal


Mr. Bertolini was appointed CEO of Aetna in 2010. Under his leadership, the company's stock value has increased nearly six-fold, according to WSJ.

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3 hours ago, TalkTalk123 said:

Aetna CEO to Reap About $500M if CVS Deal Closes

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Yahoo Finance VideoDecember 5, 2017

It could be the biggest deal of the year-- CVS's 69 billion dollar plan to buy Aetna-- and it might see some major payouts. Aetna's CEO, Mark Bertolini, is set to reap half a billion dollars if the deal closes - this according to the Wall Street Journal


Mr. Bertolini was appointed CEO of Aetna in 2010. Under his leadership, the company's stock value has increased nearly six-fold, according to WSJ.

 

No need to play the lottery, just get into drugs. :angry:

 

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FDA to end program that hid millions of reports on faulty medical devices

 

“This is part of a larger effort to end the alternative summary reporting program for all medical devices.”

FDA spokeswoman Angela Stark said the agency will also end “alternative summary reporting” exemptions still in place for makers of implantable cardiac defibrillators, pacemakers and tooth implants. The FDA has said the program was originally designed to allow for more efficient internal review of well-known risks.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/fda-to-end-program-that-hid-millions-of-reports-on-faulty-medical-devices

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1 hour ago, mr6666 said:

FDA to end program that hid millions of reports on faulty medical devices

 

“This is part of a larger effort to end the alternative summary reporting program for all medical devices.”

FDA spokeswoman Angela Stark said the agency will also end “alternative summary reporting” exemptions still in place for makers of implantable cardiac defibrillators, pacemakers and tooth implants. The FDA has said the program was originally designed to allow for more efficient internal review of well-known risks.

 

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/fda-to-end-program-that-hid-millions-of-reports-on-faulty-medical-devices

Did Barr write those reports? 

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Lol, was looking for an image regarding the superbug fungus and...

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Well, wear gloves, don't touch that painting with your bare hands! :lol:

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Why desperate Americans are driving to Canada in caravans for insulin

 

As the cost of insulin continues to skyrocket in the U.S., where pharmaceutical companies can dictate the price, people are making the trek north as an alternative to paying thousands of dollars to stay alive. ....

 

Right now, insulin isn't available as a generic drug in the U.S., because pharmaceutical companies have made small improvements to insulin over the years to keep it under patent......

Nystrom, who has Type 1 diabetes, requires insulin to stay alive. She is on a type of fast-acting insulin called NovoLog, which costs about $300 US a vial.

The Canadian equivalent, NovoRapid, is about $30 per vial. She was shocked to learn about the price difference. .....

Nystrom has health insurance in Minnesota through the Affordable Care Act. But she's on what she calls a high-deductible plan: She pays $370 US a month for the plan itself, but has to pay a $7,800 US deductible before her plan will cover her insulin.

But not everyone in the U.S. has insurance, or is able to get it.....

"They want to say what a sophisticated country they are, how advanced they are, how they're one of the wealthiest countries in the world, and to me they're a national embarrassment and they are not taking care of their citizens." ......

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/americans-diabetes-cross-canada-border-insulin-1.5125988

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Lobbyists Working to Undermine Medicare For All Host Congressional Staff at Luxury Resort

 

".....The event was hosted by a group called Center Forward and featured a lecture from industry lobbyists leading the charge on undermining progressive health care proposals. Center Forward was originally known as the Blue Dog Research Forum, a think tank affiliated with the conservative Blue Dog Coalition of House Democrats; the coalition has pressed the caucus to oppose social welfare spending, taxes on the wealthy, and regulations on business.

The organization’s website is filled with bromides about giving “centrist allies the information they need to craft common sense solutions” that paper over an agenda designed to enrich powerful corporations.

Center Forward’s big idea on Medicare Part D, for instance, is to maintain lobbyist-authored provisions of the law that bar the government from bargaining for lower prices for medicine........

 

“The host list speaks for itself,” said Wendell Potter, president of Business Initiative for Health Policy. “This event wasn’t about fixing the health care system. It was about protecting the health care industry, no matter the cost to patients, families, workers, or employers.” ...........

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/11/health-care-lobbyists-luxury-retreat/

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Jenna JohnsonVerified account @wpjenna

 

“More than 100 of the country’s remote hospitals have gone broke and then closed in the past decade, turning some of the most impoverished parts of the United States into what experts now call ‘health-hazard zones.’”

@elisaslow reports from Fairfax, Okla.:  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2019/05/11/feature/whos-going-to-take-care-of-these-people/?utm_term=.aa21eceeb7e6

 

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What is 'Medicare for All' and how would it work?

The far-reaching health care proposal has touched off a fierce debate. Here’s an explanation of what it is and where the candidates stand on it.

 

"Medicare for All" typically refers to a single-payer health care program in which all Americans are covered by a more generous version of Medicare, the health-insurance program for the elderly, that would replace all other existing public and private plans, with few exceptions.

 

Several 2020 Democratic candidates have campaigned on instituting single-payer health care. Other candidates have described a single-payer health care system as a broad goal and even co-sponsored Medicare for All legislation in the Senate and the House, but have campaigned on less-sweeping alternatives. This can make discerning their position confusing, especially because some argue that their incremental approach will eventually lead to Medicare becoming the default insurance option.........

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/what-medicare-all-how-would-it-work-n1014256

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1 hour ago, mr6666 said:

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Common Dreams @commondreams 17h17 hours ago

 

Bernie says Biden sounds a lot like insurance industry, big drug companies, and the #GOP

when it comes to misinforming public on #MedicareForAll

https://nyti.ms/2XXwi4Q 

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The problem with Medicare for All that Sanders and the rest are ignoring is HOW THE HELL DO YOU PAY FOR IT????

Oh they float these policies about raising taxes on the rich and the corporations, etc., but it's not enough, not near enough.  And you want get by cutting the Defense, Homeland Security and other budgets.  Just won't work.  Social Security is running out of money and Medicare is approaching bankruptcy, not to mention all the other Federally funded medical programs.

I read the NBC article above, the costs will be far more than Rand projected.

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5 minutes ago, TheCid said:

I read the NBC article above, the costs will be far more than Rand projected.

How do you know this? 

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