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Just Plain Immoral Drug Pricing Practice

 

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Valeant’s habit of buying up existing drugs and raising prices aggressively, rather than trying to develop new drugs, has also drawn the ire of lawmakers and helped stoke public outrage against the growing trend of higher and higher drug prices imposed by big drug companies. This year alone, Valeant raised prices on its brand-name drugs an average of 66 percent

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/05/business/valeants-drug-price-strategy-enriches-it-but-infuriates-patients-and-lawmakers.html?ref=business&_r=0

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Just Plain Immoral Drug Pricing Practice

 

Excerpt:

 

Valeant’s habit of buying up existing drugs and raising prices aggressively, rather than trying to develop new drugs, has also drawn the ire of lawmakers and helped stoke public outrage against the growing trend of higher and higher drug prices imposed by big drug companies. This year alone, Valeant raised prices on its brand-name drugs an average of 66 percent

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/05/business/valeants-drug-price-strategy-enriches-it-but-infuriates-patients-and-lawmakers.html?ref=business&_r=0

Hey, dark. you're up late. I'm just waiting for the Ambien (or Ambient, as my computer prefers) to kick in. :)

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"Two months ago, former hedge fund manager and Turing CEO Martin Shkreli purchased Daraprim—a drug taken by cancer and AIDS patients—and increased the price 5,000 percent overnight, to $750 per pill.

After we sent a letter condemning his blatant profiteering, Mr. Shkreli promised the American people that he would lower the price of this drug. However, instead of lowering the price as he promised, Mr. Shkreli hired an army of new Washington lobbyists and lawyers to stem the massive fallout from his actions and to stymie congressional oversight."

 

- B. Sanders

 

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/09/bernie-sanders-busts-turing-pharmaceuticals-ceo-lowering-price-lifesaving-drug.html

 

Is it a sin to wish cancer/AIDS on someone??

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"Two months ago, former hedge fund manager and Turing CEO Martin Shkreli purchased Daraprim—a drug taken by cancer and AIDS patients—and increased the price 5,000 percent overnight, to $750 per pill.

After we sent a letter condemning his blatant profiteering, Mr. Shkreli promised the American people that he would lower the price of this drug. However, instead of lowering the price as he promised, Mr. Shkreli hired an army of new Washington lobbyists and lawyers to stem the massive fallout from his actions and to stymie congressional oversight."

 

- B. Sanders

 

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/10/09/bernie-sanders-busts-turing-pharmaceuticals-ceo-lowering-price-lifesaving-drug.html

 

Is it a sin to wish cancer/AIDS on someone??

This lowest of the low life creep actually  sent a campaign contribution to Bernie Sanders , obviously trying to buy some political favor. Sanders is involved in a congressional investigation of this creep's  investment in the  AIDS drug and then jacking up the price of the drug.  The Sanders campaign gave the donation to an AIDS clinic.

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This lowest of the low life creep actually  sent a campaign contribution to Bernie Sanders , obviously trying to buy some political favor. Sanders is involved in a congressional investigation of this creep's  investment in the  AIDS drug and then jacking up the price of the drug.  The Sanders campaign gave the donation to an AIDS clinic.

 

Hillary woulda kept it.

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No, she wouldn't.

 

Her "campaign" would've - and she would've just claimed she knew nothing about it if it came up.

 

It's her modus operandi. She's a flip-flopping opportunist who's never honest about anything and has no true convictions anyone can rely on from one year to the next - other than her own self-interest: that you can count on.

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Her "campaign" would've - and she would've just claimed she knew nothing about it if it came up.

 

It's her modus operandi. She's a flip-flopping opportunist who's never honest about anything and has no true convictions anyone can rely on from one year to the next - other than her own self-interest: that you can count on.

Gee, don't hold back.  Let us know how you really feel about the next President of the US.

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Having to soon face the dreaded Medicare enrollment process....any advice or stories??

 

 

 

My wife has had Medicare for nine years now.  Never had a problem in enrolling or with anything about it since.

 

I keep hearing "horror stories" from people about the problems they're having with their Blue Cross and other stuff.  And frankly, I don't understand  it.  I've been hospitalized twice last year, and my wife TWICE this year, and the only problem I can cite is too lax with any(IF any) oversight.  The main problem was with too many doctors at the hospital nosing in and getting tests done that weren't really neccesary, and BC/BS just paying the claims unchallenging and me getting stuck with bills for the co-pays.  But this is standard with ANY health care plan.

 

True, they'll all now tell you, in efforts to get you to buy THEIR health care plan, that "Medicare doesn't cover everything".  Really?

 

Most people knew that going in.  Take your "twenty five cent" psych somewhere else.

 

 

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Costly AIDS/Cancer Drug Gets Competition....

 

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/2015/oct/22/imprimis-turing-daraprim/

 

:D

 

There was a discussion about this on the shortwave the other night.  Nothing but pure GREED for charging such.  the competitor reminds us exactly how low drugs can be if drug companies care more for the people than profits.

 

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They thought that they must go to the other extreme politically, and sought refuge in the most cliched right-wing American ideologies. They thought by so doing, we would think them more American.

 

She's always been anti-socialism. When we met, she was on the fast track to be a Colonel. That derailed when the brass found out she wouldn't kowtow to soviet officials. True to Russian efficiency, those same officials then put her in charge of a health department and fast-tracked her to be a regional minister of health (or whatever they call it there). That caved when someone heard her talking politics. She spent a couple of months in jail for it. 

 

When it comes to women's rights, gay rights, and the environment, she's appropriately liberal (me, too). Those wanting the government to do everything for people and punish people who don't think in the politically correct way, that raises her hackles.

 

I noticed she was a little demur (as always) regarding her qualifications to talk about health care. When her country parted from Russia, she co-authored a government policy paper on how to bring their health care system up to date and actually do what it's supposed to. By all accounts, the few parts they had the resources to implement are what's keeping it from being a total travesty.

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She's always been anti-socialism. When we met, she was on the fast track to be a Colonel. That derailed when the brass found out she wouldn't kowtow to soviet officials. True to Russian efficiency, those same officials then put her in charge of a health department and fast-tracked her to be a regional minister of health (or whatever they call it there). That caved when someone heard her talking politics. She spent a couple of months in jail for it. 

 

When it comes to women's rights, gay rights, and the environment, she's appropriately liberal (me, too). Those wanting the government to do everything for people and punish people who don't think in the politically correct way, that raises her hackles.

 

I noticed she was a little demur (as always) regarding her qualifications to talk about health care. When her country parted from Russia, she co-authored a government policy paper on how to bring their health care system up to date and actually do what it's supposed to. By all accounts, the few parts they had the resources to implement are what's keeping it from being a total travesty.

I fully respect everyone's rights to enjoy differing opinions. But on October 3, in this thread, SansFin wrote this sentence: "It is typical of soviets/socialists/liberals to detest hard data which contradicts their cherished beliefs."  Stated that way, it is red-baiting to equate soviets with liberals. It would be as if I wrote "conservatives/fascists." Qualifications (which we all have) do not give us the right to tarnish the opinions of others.  Many great actors (including Kim Hunter, whom I knew and respected) were blacklisted because their political views were exaggerated by people like SansFin. (SansFin's sentence might be more accurate if it read "It is typical of human beings to detest hard data which contradicts their cherished beliefs.")

 

On the question of qualifications, I have considerable expertise in the field of the arts. In addition to my full-time job in that field, my expertise in film, theater, and dance also involved me in various government consultations related to those subjects. Those qualifications do not make my opinions any more valid on this Board.

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Lemme add a bit of a story....

 

Back in the mid 2000's, my brother in law hurt his shoulder on the job, and was sent to a hospital emergency room by his employer.

 

Turned out he just "wrenched" his shoulder a bit and was basically OK.  But before he could leave the hospital, a nurse came into the little ER cubicle he was in and handed him a Motrin 800 and a shot glass sized cup of Maalox.

 

My brother in law told her he really didn't hurt enough at that moment to need the pill, and besides, his wife had a truckload of them at home from some other malady and he could wait until he got home to take one if he felt he needed it.

 

The nurse insisted he take the Motrin and explained the doctor wouldn't sign the release form if he didn't.

 

My brother in law said he'd leave regardless, and was told that if he left without the doctor signing the form, the hospital wasn't under obligation to bill his insurance and my brother in law would be responsible for the entire cost of the visit.  So he said, "OK then.  Gimmie your Goddam pill!"

 

A month later, when reviewing the monthly summary his insurer sends each month to inform their clients what they covered, he noticed a charge by the hospital to his insurance company for $400 for "dispensing of medicne".  For ONE Motrin 800 and a "spit" of Maalox?  Really?

 

That seems like a bit of gouging on the hospital's part.  and MY disappointment comes from:

 

When President Obama started talking about "health care reform", I thought THIS was the kind of thing he meant.  Reforming the health care industry to stop overcharging so much for what's essentially NOTHING.

 

Imagine my disappointment to find out he was merely talking about INSURANCE.

 

 

Sepiatone

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American Medical Association Wants Drugs Advertising on Television Stopped

 

http://ringoffireradio.com/2015/11/19/american-medicvision-stopped/

 

"The AMA is looking to create a system that balances “incentives” with what is best for consumers. However, when it comes to health care, profit is absolutely the worst incentive. It’s an incentive that has literally been injuring and killing hundreds of thousands of people. Unless the profit motive is removed from health care – as it has been in virtually every other industrialized nation on earth – very little will change. The AMA’s recent moves to ban direct-to-consumer advertising and create greater transparency and competition in the industry are a good start – but they don’t go nearly far enough."

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America has the finest health care in the world with innovation in drugs and surgical procedures that are the envy of the world. Socialism does not work in this country and never will.

 

Obamacare is on shaky ground.

 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-obamacare-death-spiral-a-gift-to-2016-gop-candidates/article/2576796

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America has the finest health care in the world with innovation in drugs and surgical procedures that are the envy of the world. Socialism does not work in this country and never will.

 

Obamacare is on shaky ground.

 

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-obamacare-death-spiral-a-gift-to-2016-gop-candidates/article/2576796

I did think it was rather funny to hear longest-serving house democrat John Dingell compare his vote for the affordable care act in 2009 (a voluminous piece of legislation so large that it cannot be read with any hope of assimilating it's full contents) to his vote for medicare in 1965, a mere 64-page bill.

 

that's a prime example of someone being in government for far too long.

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I did think it was rather funny to hear longest-serving house democrat John Dingell compare his vote for the affordable care act in 2009 (a volumnous piece of legislation so large that it cannot be read with any hope of assimilating it's full contents) to his vote for medicare in 1965, a mere 64-page bill.

 

that's a prime example of someone being in government for far too long.

vote and pass legislation so immense it cannot for all practical purposes be read or assimilated?....

 

 

totally illogical.

 

 

"it's for your own good." -felix unger (tony randall), the security arms

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