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So you supported the far right position at the time that the USA had to win in Vietnam at all cost and continue the war?    As TalkTalk stated it is a united country.    Ok,  they are not democratic but I don't see how that was or is our problem.    If it is,  we need to start about 25 more wars.

 

No, Just saying Nixon ended the war, but the result was all the lives were wasted. S. Vietnam ceased to exist. Why didnt he end it sooner then and save lives?

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Yes it's a united country. Would you want our troops to still be there fighting in Nam?

 

 

H-ll no. I didnt support it back then either. Just saying his peace w/honor was no honor at all. The country collapsed when we left and all our solidiers died in vain. What took him so long to end the war? Not like waiting  gained anything. Just more lost lives.

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No, Just saying Nixon ended the war, but the result was all the lives were wasted. S. Vietnam ceased to exist. Why didnt he end it sooner then and save lives?

 

Those lives were wasted because of the actions of the preceding two Dem Presidents.   Nixon ran on a platform of ending US involvement and he did.      Of course S. Vietnam ceased to exist.    This is the typical result of most civil wars; one side ceases to exist.   

 

To me Civil wars are the saddest type of human conflicts.  But I don't see how one can fault leaders of foreign nations for the deaths or outcomes.

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No, Just saying Nixon ended the war, but the result was all the lives were wasted. S. Vietnam ceased to exist. Why didnt he end it sooner then and save lives?

 

Nixon kept the war going and secretly expanded it into Laos and Cambodia while lying to the American public that we was trying to end it.

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Those lives were wasted because of the actions of the preceding two Dem Presidents.   Nixon ran on a platform of ending US involvement and he did.

 

After he wasted lives like the preceding two Dem Presidents. Or have you never heard of the 1970 Cambodia incursion or the 1972 Christmas bombings of Hanoi? And, remember, he declared during the 1968 campaign that he had a "secret plan" to end the war. It took him almost his entire ill-fated presidency to implement it.

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After he wasted lives like the preceding two Dem Presidents. Or have you never heard of the 1970 Cambodia incursion or the 1972 Christmas bombings of Hanoi? And, remember, he declared during the 1968 campaign that he had a "secret plan" to end the war. It took him almost his entire ill-fated presidency to do it.

 

Yes, I should have stated that many lives were wasted by the preceding Presidents instead of implying all were.     My comment wasn't in support of Nixon but instead that in most cases foreign powers should stay out of civil wars. 

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It's funny how when people say how despicable and deceiving the Clinton's are they bring up all the despicable and deceiving Republicans. I guess that as good as can be expected, I can live with that.

 

 

Yes,  that is a common tactic most partisans use at this site as well as others;   the old 'well they did it too' or 'what they did was worst'.

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After he wasted lives like the preceding two Dem Presidents. Or have you never heard of the 1970 Cambodia incursion or the 1972 Christmas bombings of Hanoi? And, remember, he declared during the 1968 campaign that he had a "secret plan" to end the war. It took him almost his entire ill-fated presidency to implement it.

 

And Kissinger had to talk him out of using nuclear weapons - AFTER he won his re-election.  Nixon: "I just want you to think big, Henry, for Christsakes."

Dec 1972 Nixon to Kissinger on Cambodia ... "I want everything that can fly to go in there and crack the hell out of them.  There is no limitation on mileage and there is no limitation on budget.  Is that clear?

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Yeah, HUGEly disappointed! LOL. Oh, well. He'll probably run again next round.........

I don't know. Maybe 2012, when there was a groundswell of

support for Christie, was his year and he decided to stay out.

That might have been his chance. Four years from now who

knows where he'll be. I wouldn't be surprised if he ran again,

but I don't know if he'll do all that well. He might want to take

some anger management classes sometime in the next four

years.

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The Trickster was responsible for over a third of U.S. deaths in

Vietnam. And he barely ended the war before his reelection.

And then a few years later North Vietnam conquered South

Vietnam. So Nixon wasted four years and 22,000 lives for an

outcome he could have had in 1969, though that outcome

would have been a politically unacceptable one. Vietnam was

united, but not in the way that the U.S. wanted.

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In this case, it was a witch hunt.  Regardless of what office he held or what he said, how many American men have been investigated for "inability to keep one's fly zipped" other than in divorce court in this type situatio?  None.

If you are in a position as visible as President of the U.S., you should make an effort a bit greater than those ending up in divorce court to keep  your fly zipped up.

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As despicable and deceiving as Nixon was He did end the war.

 

Not exactly.  He pulled most (not all) of the US troops out, but the war itself continued until South Vietnam finally fell.  Two marines died in 1975.  It fell because Congress had tired of it and saw that it never could be won so they refused any more aid in 1975 when Ford was president.  Of course Nixon and Kissenger had promised to aid South Vietnam if attacked by North, but didn't happen - nor did N & K expect it to.

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The Trickster was responsible for over a third of U.S. deaths in

Vietnam. And he barely ended the war before his reelection.

And then a few years later North Vietnam conquered South

Vietnam. So Nixon wasted four years and 22,000 lives for an

outcome he could have had in 1969, though that outcome

would have been a politically unacceptable one. Vietnam was

united, but not in the way that the U.S. wanted.

 

Sounds very similar to how Obama handled Iraq.

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Sounds very similar to how Obama handled Iraq.

Wrong.  Pres Obama carried out the agreement that Pres. Bush had made with Iraq and Obama tried to negotiate with the Iraqi leader that Bush had selected.  The Iragi government would not agree to a new SOFA, whereas the SOFA in South Vietnam was never an issue.  Furthermore, the Iraqi government wanted the US troops out, whereas the South Vietnamese government wanted the US military to stay.

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Wrong.  Pres Obama carried out the agreement that Pres. Bush had made with Iraq and Obama tried to negotiate with the Iraqi leader that Bush had selected.  The Iragi government would not agree to a new SOFA, whereas the SOFA in South Vietnam was never an issue.  Furthermore, the Iraqi government wanted the US troops out, whereas the South Vietnamese government wanted the US military to stay.

 

You're really an Obama apologist, as well as hyper partisan.

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As despicable and deceiving as Nixon was He did end the war.

Tricky Dick lengthen and enlarged the Vietnam War with the Cambodian Incursion.

 

It wasn't so much that Nixon ended the war, as it was that we had to get out of Dodge before it all fell on top of us.

 

" We barely made the runway for the last plane out

As we taxied down that runway I could hear those people shout

don't come back here Yankee"

 

It was pretty ugly and pathetic at the end. But you're right, Nixon did end it

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What’s Mike Pence Got to Offer Trump? Billionaire Backers--

 

The Indiana governor maintains close ties with the Koch network and other wealthy Republicans.

 

http://billmoyers.com/story/whats-mike-pence-got-offer-trump-billionaire-backers/

 

$$$$

The Koch brothers bought Kansas, when they bought Sam Brownback.

 

Kansas will be the model for the whole United States.

 

And now they're in the process of buying the United States-- they already have Mike Pence on a string.

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‘Never Trump’ Dies With a Whimper in Rules Committee  

 

CLEVELAND — The “Never Trump” movement died with a whimper Thursday night. And to be clear: There was never a bang to begin with. After months of hype — and weeks of misleading media narratives — the efforts to derail Donald Trump at the Republican National Convention ended abruptly and undramatically here during a marathon meeting of the Convention Rules Committee.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/437909/never-trump-dies-whimper

 

No more of this nonsense. It's been put to bed for good.

 

Trumpus Maximus Americanus!

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‘Never Trump’ Dies With a Whimper in Rules Committee  

 

No more of this nonsense. It's been put to bed for good.

 

Trumpus Maximus Americanus!

 

Along with your potential viewing audience. A convention challenge -- no matter the outcome -- would have provided real drama, watercooler material for the entire week and surefire ratings. 

 

Is anyone going to stick around to hear Tiffany Trump talk about her dad?  :ph34r:

 

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I guess Sarah Palin and Rick Perry weren't available so Trump picked the next best option (Pence?) . Where do they (republican party) find these people? And who are the idiots who  originally elected  these morons to be Governor of their states?  TRUMPUS CLUELESS MORONICUS

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