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Sounds very similar to how Obama handled Iraq.

Not all that similar. I don't think Obama said he had  a

secret plan to get out of Iraq, and there was no enemy trying

to conquer Iraq, except for latecomer ISIS and they're

not doing too well right now. As far as numbers go,

Nixon was responsible for a little over a third of the

U.S. deaths in Vietnam, whereas Obama is responsible

for about six percent of deaths in Iraq, and of course

a lot more American soldiers died in Vietnam than in

Iraq.

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I guess Sarah Palin and Rick Perry weren't available so Trump picked the next best option (Pence?) . Where do they (republican party) find these people? And who are the idiots who  originally elected  these morons to be Governor of their states?  TRUMPUS CLUELESS MORONICUS

 

LOL, mrroberts.

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I guess Sarah Palin and Rick Perry weren't available so Trump picked the next best option (Pence?) . Where do they (republican party) find these people? And who are the idiots who  originally elected  these morons to be Governor of their states?  TRUMPUS CLUELESS MORONICUS

 

Be kind of hard to trump this guy.

 

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Let's call the "war with Iraq" what it really was, "the unnecessary,  illegal , counter productive war created by the outright lies of the criminal Bush/Chaney administration" . Comparing the death tolls between  Iraq and Vietnam can be misleading. Many soldiers seriously wounded in Iraq survived because  of  the advanced medical techniques available today (and a more quick,  intense response to aid those wounded), things not available to our fellows during Vietnam.  Of course we have a very large number of those "non dead" from Iraq who now have very serious and often permanent disabilities from those battlefield injuries.  Which means we as a nation should be sparing no expense to provide for the ongoing care for our veterans. But that will take money, lots of it. And heaven forbid we should have to ask the well healed to pay something more in taxes to help meet those expenses.  The oil billionaire Koch brothers for example, they continue to benefit from the oil revenues. Instead of spending  countless billions to  buy out and corrupt the  nation's  political system why not  contribute that money to the veterans who they (and people like Jake)  profess to honor so much?  And people like Donald Trump are a big part of that hypocrisy.

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....  The oil billionaire Koch brothers for example, they continue to benefit from the oil revenues. Instead of spending  countless billions to  buy out and corrupt the  nation's  political system why not  contribute that money to the veterans who they (and people like Jake)  profess to honor so much?  And people like Donald Trump are a big part of that hypocrisy.

 

 

And the BILLIONS spent bailing out banks. :angry:

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Mike Pence is The Decaffeinated Rush Limbaugh

 

 

Heard a so-called liberal commentator on the PBS News Hour this evening state that people described Mike Pence as a decaffeinated Rush Limbaugh when he was on the radio. This commentator acted as if that was a compliment.

 

Then the commentator went on to say that Mike Pence had even apologized for some attack ads that he had approved in a campaign. Wasn't that warm and fuzzy.

 

What I'm hearing is --it's okay to have the same views as Rush Limbaugh, if you're polite when you state them.

 

This is the same sort of thing we're hearing from Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan - - it's okay that Donald Trump is a racist and sexist as long as he doesn't make statements to that effect too much in public .

 

That ugly smell in the air is called mendacious hypocrisy.

 

That tells you a lot about the Republicans who are still left in the Republican Party, who are still willing to support Donald Trump.

 

They're saying more or less that Donald Trump can go against their core beliefs, as long as he doesn't smear it in their faces and in the face of the public.

 

Trying to eek out a win with that kind of strategy is not only pathetic-- it is un-American.

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Along with your potential viewing audience. A convention challenge -- no matter the outcome -- would have provided real drama, watercooler material for the entire week and surefire ratings.

 

Is anyone going to stick around to hear Tiffany Trump talk about her dad? :ph34r:

 

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California Dreamin - - does Tiffany Trump look like Mackenzie Phillips in a blonde wig, or what?

 

Does anybody want to touch that one?

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California Dreamin - - does Tiffany Trump look like Mackenzie Phillips in a blonde wig, or what?

 

Does anybody want to touch that one?

 

Actually, she looks a lot like her mother, Marla Maples -- Trump's No. 2 ex. All indications are that Marla did an excellent job rearing her. 

 

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You're really an Obama apologist, as well as hyper partisan.

Not sure what you mean by "hyper partisan," but regardless you are wrong.  Just trying to present the truth re: Obama and Iraq.  Apparently you are so opposed to anything Obama that you can't see the truth.

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Tricky Dick lengthen and enlarged the Vietnam War with the Cambodian Incursion.

 

It wasn't so much that Nixon ended the war, as it was that we had to get out of Dodge before it all fell on top of us.

 

" We barely made the runway for the last plane out

As we taxied down that runway I could hear those people shout

don't come back here Yankee"

 

It was pretty ugly and pathetic at the end. But you're right, Nixon did end it

Not be pedantic, but Nixon did not end the war in Vietnam.  He ended the US military involvement for the most part.  The war continued until 1975 when North Vietnam won it - and two US Marines died.  Ford was president then and Congress voted to not meet the committments Nixon and Kissenger had made to South Vietnam to return if (at least with air support) if North Vietnam violated the treaty.

Who are you quoting and from when?

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Let's call the "war with Iraq" what it really was, "the unnecessary,  illegal , counter productive war created by the outright lies of the criminal Bush/Chaney administration" . Comparing the death tolls between  Iraq and Vietnam can be misleading. Many soldiers seriously wounded in Iraq survived because  of  the advanced medical techniques available today (and a more quick,  intense response to aid those wounded), things not available to our fellows during Vietnam.  Of course we have a very large number of those "non dead" from Iraq who now have very serious and often permanent disabilities from those battlefield injuries.  Which means we as a nation should be sparing no expense to provide for the ongoing care for our veterans. But that will take money, lots of it. And heaven forbid we should have to ask the well healed to pay something more in taxes to help meet those expenses.  The oil billionaire Koch brothers for example, they continue to benefit from the oil revenues. Instead of spending  countless billions to  buy out and corrupt the  nation's  political system why not  contribute that money to the veterans who they (and people like Jake)  profess to honor so much?  And people like Donald Trump are a big part of that hypocrisy.

Good points.  Comparing death tolls to previous ones, whether in wars or automobile accidents or anything else, is misleading.

For wars, each successive one produces a higher proportion of  wounded survivors compared to deaths, most of whom have permanent disabilities.  This is due to advances in "military" medicine, rapid recovery of wounded, rapid transfer to medical facilities in Germany or US, etc.

However, this does place a huge burden on the VA since it becomes responsible for paying and treating these survivors.  That is what Congress has failed to realize in every operation in which the military becomes involved.  The Republicans especially do not wish to raise funding for the VA to account for these 50 year costs for each survivor.  Trump's privatization plan would raise VA costs even more - with no funding.

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Canon 5: A Judge Should Refrain from Political Activity

(A) General Prohibitions. A judge should not:

(1) act as a leader or hold any office in a political organization;

(2) make speeches for a political organization or candidate, or publicly endorse or oppose a candidate for public office

 

 

You mean there's nothing that bars a Supreme Court justice from going duck hunting in Louisiana with a sitting vice president?

 

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Canon 5: A Judge Should Refrain from Political Activity

(A) General Prohibitions. A judge should not:

(1) act as a leader or hold any office in a political organization;

(2) make speeches for a political organization or candidate, or publicly endorse or oppose a candidate for public office

 

 

And nothing that prohibits a Supreme Court justice's wife from founding a tea party group?

 

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If it's wrong for the goose it's wrong for the gander,!!!!!!

 

Like I said in that other post;  partisans always deploy the 'they do it also' spin. 

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Those lives were wasted because of the actions of the preceding two Dem Presidents. Nixon ran on a platform of ending US involvement and he did. Of course S. Vietnam ceased to exist. This is the typical result of most civil wars; one side ceases to exist.

 

To me Civil wars are the saddest type of human conflicts. But I don't see how* one can fault leaders of foreign nations for the deaths or outcomes.

 

 

James-- the Republican president Dwight Eisenhower formulated our southeast Asia policy back in the nineteen fifties.

 

When Dien Bien Phu fell, and the French were chased out of Vietnam Eisenhower,along with the state department, formulated a policy of American political involvement in Southeast Asia, i.e. Indochina.

 

Like the Bay of Pigs, President Kennedy was following a policy that had already been established when he became president.

 

Also like so many political operations involving the United States directed by the CIA, there had been covert operations in the area after the French left by the United States.

 

All President Kennedy did was to direct advisers and trainers into the area as the first overt policy move.

 

The involvement that we have in Vietnam was not the policy of any one political party. It was the policy of the US government as a response to Communism in the world.

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A very perceptive piece in the Washington Post today -- another reason why Trump would not be a good President:

 

Presidents need to be able to do nothing. Donald Trump can’t do it.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/presidents-need-to-be-able-to-do-nothing-donald-trump-cant-do-it/2016/07/15/5303f34e-476f-11e6-90a8-fb84201e0645_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

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James-- the Republican president Dwight Eisenhower formulated our southeast Asia policy back in the nineteen fifties.

 

When Dien Bien Phu fell, and the French were chased out of Vietnam Eisenhower,along with the state department, formulated a policy of American political involvement in Southeast Asia, i.e. Indochina.

 

Like the Bay of Pigs, President Kennedy was following a policy that had already been established when he became president.

 

Also like so many political operations involving the United States directed by the CIA, there had been covert operations in the area after the French left by the United States.

 

All President Kennedy did was to direct advisers and trainers into the area as the first overt policy move.

 

The involvement that we have in Vietnam was not the policy of any one political party. It was the policy of the US government as a response to Communism in the world.

One of the main problems was the "first president to lose a war" threat hanging over all of them.  Doesn't mean much politically now, but it did back then.  Also, lot of criticism of "losing" China to the communists and the domino theory.

Actually Truman probably had some blame as well.  When WW  II ended and the Japanese pulled out of Indochina, the US government under Truman supported a return of the French colonial government and military to Indochina.  Each successive president was faced with a problem of French and then South Vietnamese losing the war and US policy was to not let that happen.

It was part of the US policy to stop communism wherever we could and this increased after the fall of China to the communists.

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Justice Ginsburg: I 'Regret' Trump Remarks

 

 

 

And once that big blowhard New Yorker can learn to do the same, THAT'LL be the day I'll gain a little respect for the man-child.

 

(...have the GUTS to apologize and admit his regret for some stupid thing HE'S said and after he's placed HIS damn foot in his mouth again, THAT IS!!!)

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maybe what we need is some sort of a way to eliminate these Supreme Court Justice's for ruling on there political preference

 

I take it you'd rather they rule according to their religious preference? Maybe yours, actually?

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 I wonder what the founding Fathers would answer you.

 

 

They'd probably be wondering why all the black people are walking around free. And when you tell them a woman is running for president, they'd laugh. And then they'd run and hide under something when the first car drove by.

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Reeling from Falling Polls, Paul Ryan Floods District with Mailers on Border Security After Funding Every Obama Open Borders Initiative

The new mailers touting Ryan’s support for border security is interesting given that just last year, Ryan championed a spending bill that fully funded President Obama’s open borders agenda– including funding sanctuary cities, executive amnesty, and the release of criminal aliens. The mailers also come amid new reports indicating that, one month after his election, Ryan plans to bring up “criminal sentencing” measures that could release thousands of criminal illegal aliens from prison onto the streets.

Read & view more Breitbart >

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/16/ryan_floods_district_with_deceptive_anti-amnesty_mailer/

 

"That's not our values"  Ryan could find himself booted out very soon. Good riddance.

 

Build the Wall. Keep 'em out. Round 'em up. Boot 'em out. Bad ones wipe 'em out.

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 5h5 hours ago

President Obama just had a news conference, but he doesn't have a clue. Our country is a divided crime scene, and it will only get worse!

 

Trumpus Maximus Americanus!

 

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