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Last night, after viewing "The Searchers", TCM hosts discussed the problems with racist depictions of Native Americans in this film. Like so many classic westerns, the Native Americans are portrayed as savages and often not even played by Native Americans. I really appreciated that this topic was brought up. It needs to be as movies have influenced the way many people see history and have shaped attitudes toward minority groups. The hosts pointed out that they felt we should still see these movies (many are masterpieces of film making) but to open our eyes and to see the racism in them. I am Native American and greatly appreciate these views. These are the kind of discussions we all need to be having. Thank you TCM.

I love the hats from the 1920s, especially the ones that had a little bit of scarf on them. I don't know who this actress is (maybe a very young Myrna Loy?), but I love her look!

Just watched "Ran" off of Amazon Prime, one of the last Kurosawa films I hadn't seen. Holy. Cow. Talk about a beautiful movie. "Ran" is just gorgeous. Old-fashioned spectacle filmmaking. Kind of made me wish I could experience it in a movie theater. The scene where King Lear's sons--sorry, blanking on the character name--storm the castle where he has holed up is absolutely jaw-dropping.

I have a Stetson brand cowboy hat which is simply labeled: Outdoor. It is much like the: Pinch Point in the diagram below but the pinch is less pronounced. You can learn more than you are likely to want to know about hats at: https://imgur.com/t/hat/vzAWahp I loved the sense of OYA shown by many of the hats in: Midnight (1939): They do poke a bit of fun at the fashions. Baroness Czerny is shopping for her new wardrobe and is asked by a milliner if she is looking for something amusing. She replies approximately: "Nothing hilarious."

The link which I provided is to an Imgur post with thirty-five such charts of various hat types and styles. I am surprised that a person in Australian army would wear Emu feathers since their army did lose the one and only war with Emus. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War or Google "The Great Emu war" for further information regarding their ignominious defeat. I must wonder if the buttons on your shirt are to mimic the belt-like part at the bottom of some military short jackets. I have seen shirts which have sort of zig-zag buttoning. I believe the theory is that they are not as easy to rip open because the tension is distributed unevenly. I believe also that it is truly due to seamstresses having more vodka than is good for them. I have a photograph of a certain fuzzy wearing a fedora which was blocked to mimic one worn by Frank Sinatra and others of his ethnic and social ilk. It is precious because he was nineteen years old at the time but the hair at his temples was whitened by bluing and he is wearing a very dark blue suit and his classic scowl. It would be very easy to mistake him for a man in his forties. It is no wonder that he tells of never having need of a false i.d. I believe that this is the one true classic man's hat:

AHA! I DID IT! I FINISHED DEATH IN VENICE (1971)!!! I turned it off, like, EIGHT TIMES, but it KEPT SHOWING UP IN MY HULU FEED and I kept going back to it. I feel the need to preface my remarks on this film with two things: 1. I know this is a film that is near and dear to a lot of you and i respect that and 2. it's a good movie. ITS NOT A FILM FOR EVERYONE, but I respect anyone who LOVES it. Now I would like to say that the closest analogy I can think for it, as a film, is: it the story of a director who paints a wall on a glorious summer day on the beach** in Venice (Italy) and shoots and photographs that paint drying for two and half hours SO lovingly and with such exquisite care that every single shot of that **** paint drying could be framed and hung up in a museum. IT IS SOME GORGEOUS, BRILLIANTLY SHOT AND LIT AND DRESSED AND FRAMED PAINT DRYING that goes on FOR TWO AND A HALF(?) HOURS. And THE DIRECTOR also hires a GREAT ACTOR (DIRK BOGARDE] to SIT THERE AND WATCH THE PAINT DRY and draws forth from him a bold, vanity-free performance of SUCH UNDENIABLE DEPTH AND PROFUNDITY (again while sits there and watches the paint dry) THAT YOU CAN'T HELP BUT BE AWED by the TALENTS OF BOTH. Also, I could not help but think of RUDY GIULIANI and THE HAIR DYE at the end of the movie. Also also, i was not expecting it to be SO TOPICAL with THE THEME OF A PANDEMIC that is BEING DOWNPLAYED as an UNDERCURRENT TO ALL THE LANGUID, LOVELY, AMBER-TONED, EXQUISITE PAINT DRYING. **- re "the beach" in VENICE, so, apparently there is LAND in Venice, Italy? I mean, before this movie I truly thought it was, like 80-90% canals, but no- there is actual land and even a beach in Venice, Italy, those of you who have been, yes?

I've always been fascinated with Regina's "bird hat" and it was the first hat I thought of when I saw this thread. Here is Bette in full fighting armor with Fashion Institute of Technology commentary. The bird hat is employed to wage the attack on Horace. FIT Costume Analysis: WALKING SUIT WITH HAT For the film’s dramatic climax, Bette Davis is outfitted in a fashionable walking suit of rose beige wool elaborately trimmed with matching passementerie braid, as described in Women’s Wear Daily (“Fashions Worn in the New Films” 3). She is a commanding presence, as she enters the house from an afternoon out wearing a tailored jacket with broad shoulders and a shapely peplum (fig. 8). An imposing, wide-brimmed hat completes the silhouette. It features a stuffed bird—a quintessential design feature in turn-of-the-century millinery. Because California conservation laws prevented the use of stuffed birds on hats in the 1940s, “Orry-Kelly borrowed a huge white dove, the epitome of taxidermist art, from the Louisiana Museum. Here perched the snowy fowl on a huge picture hat that featured a dotted veil”

Nightmare Alley is Tyrone Power's best work. Great movie. As for your earlier mention of Victor Mature, he was a vastly under-rated actor. He steals the show from Peter Sellers in his parody of his movie career in After the Fox.

Ah yes! A pic of the finest Elphberg of them all here! (...as Col. Zapt said)

Secrets of the Castle (2017) "Guédelon is the world’s biggest experimental archaeological site." They are constructing a castle using only techniques, tools and materials available in the 13th Century. This is a five-episode documentary of a historian and two archaeologists who spent six months at the site. This is so perfectly and wonderfully fascinating! It truly examines many of the oft-overlooked aspects of Medieval life. How stone is cut and laid into the walls is interesting but this goes even into the probable method of putting reeds on cottage floor for comfort and cleanliness. The historian leaves much of the heavy work to the archaeologists but grinding wheat into flour means turning a heavy stone for two hours each day! She rediscovers the method by which they likely made gold thread for embroidery. She approaches each task with enthusiasm while knowing that she will not be as good at it as a Medieval peasant. That it took the skilled craftsmen on site a total of two-thousand-seven-hundred hours to cut and carve the stone for one Gothic window gives one a much greater appreciation for the amount of labor involved in building cathedrals of that period. Every trade and skill which you can imagine went into castle construction at some point and this series reveals important aspects of many of them. 9/9.9 More information about the project and sample videos may be found at: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04sv5nc

Lots of beautiful hats in HELLO DOLLY:

I think Gene Tierney looks adorable in her rain hat as we find out she is, indeed, not dead!

NIGHT NURSE CATCH ME IF YOU CAN LOVER COME BACK Four Girls in White (1939) Against the Law (1934) The New Interns (1964) Registered Nurse (1934) Woman Doctor (1939) The Doctor and the Girl (1949)

Here's the hat Loretta Young longed for in THE BISHOP'S WIFE

TCM should be showing the original British release that runs 108 minutes. This from Wiki: As the original British release begins, the voice of director Carol Reed (uncredited) describes post-war Vienna from a racketeer's point of view. The version shown in American cinemas cut 11 minutes of footage[36] and replaced Reed's voice-over with narration by Joseph Cotten as Holly Martins. David O. Selznick instituted the replacement because he did not think American audiences would relate to the seedy tone of the original.[37] Today, Reed's original version appears on American DVDs, in showings on Turner Classic Movies, and in US cinema releases, with the eleven minutes of footage restored, including a shot of a near topless dancer in a bar that would have violated the U.S. Code in 1948.

Road to Bali Next: Robert Stack, Ruth Roman, Raymond Burr

Audrey Hepburn (Large black hat in Breakfast at T., the little number she wears in Sabrina; she even looked good in a wimple (which she wore both in R&M and The Nun's Story). A true fashion icon.

Brothers & Sisters Next: Isabel Sanford, Sherman Hemsley and Marla Gibbs

Alice next: Sally Field, Calista Flockhart and Rob Lowe

From March 20-23, 1921, the Poli ran The Last of the Mohicans, with Wallace Beery as Magua, Barbara Bedford as Cora Munro, and Alan Roscoe as Uncas. The film was released in November of 1920, and is available on YouTube, running around 70 minutes. Brief Plot: During the French and Indian War, Cora Munro and her sister Alice attempt to reunite with their father, who is a Colonel in the British Army. They are aided by the Mohican Uncas and the scout Hawkeye. But the treacherous Magua whips his Huron tribe into a drunken frenzy, and they commit a massacre on the British. Then Magua sets his sights on Cora, setting up a confrontation atop a cliff. Review: This one is a close call for me. The action scenes are spectacular, and the massacre sequence is incredibly savage. The exterior shots are beautiful, particularly during the climax. My main issue is with the characterizations. It’s easy to hiss at Beery and root for Roscoe, but I found their performances just adequate. Bedford appears to be in a trance for most of the film, staring blankly at nothing. Theodore Lorch, as Hawkeye, is given next to nothing to do. The British officers, with their powdered wigs, look so much alike that it is impossible to tell who is who. Still, the film is worth a look, if only for those action scenes. The 1936 version, which is the only other adaptation I’ve seen, is better. Barbara Bedford had an interesting relationship with her two “Indian” co-stars. She married Alan Roscoe (also known as John Albert Rascoe) two years after the film was released. By 1928, the marriage had hit the skids, and ended in divorce. “He was never home during the weekend,” Bedford complained. “He would never take me anywhere unless I insisted.” She added that Roscoe made her “stay at home, vegetate and get ready for another job. … Mr. Rascoe had the old-fashioned idea about marriage – that a wife should be kept under her husband’s thumb. Finally he began leaving me alone to go to his ranch in Mexico on hunting trips. I was the slave and he was the driver.” Eventually, the two remarried, but the second marriage ended with Roscoe’s death in 1933. That same year, Bedford filed suit against her other co-star, Wallace Beery. Roscoe had left an insurance policy worth $10,000 to Beery, with the understanding that Beery would use the money to care for the couple’s daughter, Barbara Edith Rascoe. Beery wanted to send the child away to school, but Bedford wanted to keep her at home. The suit was dismissed after Beery had paid off Roscoe’s debts and funeral expenses, and agreed to give $8500 to Roscoe’s daughter, to be kept in a trust fund.

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I love that chart! Really, most fashion design terms are for the manufacturer. But it is funny to see "cowboy" hats customized to flatter the wearer's face & features like Jim Garner's curled brim. Australian military hats are commonly called the "Bush Hat". Looks like the emblem holds the brim up on one side, but if unsnapped for rain looks like it would smack your face. Those are Emu feathers stuck in the snap. My "Army Bush Hat" has the metal emblem along the band holding the emu feathers & the brim snaps/unsnaps independently. Mine is more of a sewn fabric than molded wool like those pictured. It was pretty disheartening to find Australian Army hats were made in China in the 80's when I lived there. But my wool Auzzie Army shirt is hilarious- the front buttons shift off center at the bottom...figure it out!

How about a few from the so-called "New Hollywood" era such as: Jack Nicholson Bruce Dern James Coburn Faye Dunaway Karen Black (I'm finding that cross-eyed look of hers doesn't bother me as much anymore)

RYAN'S DAUGHTER (1970) came on TCM in the wee hours and went off about 6 AM. What a movie. Happy St. Patrick's Day.

Wow! Whaddaya know?! FINALLY a newbie to these boards who GETS why this "Problematic Film" series is being run has posted their thoughts on this, AND stated so elegantly TOO, I might add! (...will wonders never cease)

The Music Man re : courtyard

I'm really enjoying this thread. It's one of my favorites, since I'm a classic TV junkie!

Patricia Medina

Picket Fences next: Henry Darrow, Linda Cristal and Leif Erickson

It amuses me that some of the right-wing posters invoke Robert Osborne's name, as if it bolsters their claims. As we know Robert Osborne was a gay man who sometimes chose LGBT-themed films as part of Robert Osborne's Picks. I am sure that sort of left-wing agenda would disturb these same posters.

Jorgensen, Molly, played by Sandra Dee in "A Summer Place"

ANDallso ofcourse Paul MAIsonne that magnificent fermenentedtated Califrenchian Chanpagne... (HIC!)

The Nat King Cole version is my favorite. Of course with most jazz standards it is either Nat or Sinatra, but for 30s and 40s ballads most of the time a Nat version is what I listen to the most; (for more up-tempo songs, it is Sinatra). My jazz guitar teacher told me over 30 years ago to listen to these two and how they sing and approach the melody and like most of the great horn players use that as an influence when playing a melody on guitar.

A deerstalker is now just "a Sherlock Holmes hat"

The Invisible Man (1933) The Raven (1935) The Terror (1928) A Shriek in the Night (1933) The Mystery of Mr. X (1934) While London Sleeps (1926) The Phantom Fiend (1932) Terror Aboard (1933) The Crimes of Stephen Hawke (1936)

Have to mention Carmen Miranda --

Grunick, Tom--William Hurt in Broadcast News

Grace Kelly wore a lot of classic hats:

Esther was played by Joan Collins in Esther and the King 1960

Fonda was coming off Barbarella. What a sea change in her career!

Nobody wore a hat as well as Myrna Loy!

Hmmm...gotta wonder if Richard Dreyfuss would see this hat, if he might get a sudden unconscience desire to head to Wyoming?

"Blue Moon" -- The Marcels, An American Werewolf in London (1980) -- [Song at 2:00 point in this clip] Next: Another song with a celestial body in the title

The F.B.I. Next: Robert Urich, Avery Brooks and Barbara Stock

They did him? OK...Jean Paul Belmondo.

On the Rocks (2020) Director Sofia Coppola’s sparkling New-York-set romantic comedy was a breath of fresh air during this time of lockdown. The always-appealing Rashida Jones plays Laura, someone who seemingly has the perfect life: a wonderful family, as well as being a published author. But struggles with her next book lead her imagination to wander. Her husband (an excellent Marlon Wayans) has been spending more time than usual at work. The discovery of female toiletry not hers, and voila: Laura thinks her husband is having an affair. Once her father finds out, a well-connected art dealer, played by Bill Murray, in all his treasured uniqueness, the movie becomes a heady nocturnal sojourn into a neon-bathed Manhattan that is lovely and hopeful. On the Rocks reminded me not so much of Annie Hall-era Woody Allen, but the great screwball comedies of the 1930s, only more delicate and subdued, as well as having a most welcome diverse cast.

Bates, Alan

O You Beautiful Doll