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My interest in this story only relates to the timing of the earth-shattering revelation. Why now, 20 years later, is Marcia Gay Harden's impression/interpretation of Dench's reaction surfacing? I also found it humorous that some dodgy websites that repeated/reposted this article had their filter/word substitution turned on, and the actress' name was changed to Marcia Homosexual Harden in the title.

Which Dench is one to talk, she was in Cats after all.

Any news that has NOTHING to do with: 1. Covid 2. Nazis 3. Race relations in America gets my attention, it's kind of nice to have good old fashioned gossipy scandals like we used to before ypu-know-who came along and MONOPOLIZED ALL THE OXYGEN IN THE ROOM for four years of HELL.

Yes. I never hear anything negative about her. She's even pure class in her acceptance speech. Instead of her speech being all me me me, she actually takes time to thank all the people behind the scenes, especially the stuntmen and women who taught her how to do her own stunts. Because whether some stars want to admit it or not, a film coming off is a collaborative effort, it's not just about the person in front of the camera.

We always needed this thread and didn't know it. It makes me think of one of my favorite movie lines, spoken by Olympia Dukakis, "If you don't have anything nice to say about anybody, sit right here by me."

Even Lee Majors would've been a better choice.

Yes! And plenty of Barbara's co-stars/directors were still alive at that time too: Fred MacMurray, Kirk Douglas, Joel McCrea, Burt Lancaster, Billy Wilder, Dennis Morgan... There were a lot of other options. I would have even been fine with someone like Jane Fonda, since her father worked with Barbara.

Four Weddings and a Funeral is chock full of hats: Andie MacDowell: Kristin Scott Thomas wears a huge floppy hat for a wedding and a simple beret for the funeral: She has this hat perched on top of her head in the mini-sequel: One Red Nose Day and a Funeral

I'm not a particular fan of Judi Dench, but I would take that article with a grain of salt. All Marcia had to go on was that Dench, "didn't look happy," so for all we know Dench's feet hurt. Then Marcia uses the interview to humble brag. "However, I’m a big one for effusive congratulations. That’s who I am." Yeah. I wanted Julie Waters for "Billy Elliot," too.

Best Foot Forward (1943) Lucille Ball (playing Lucille Ball): Did anyone ever tell you you are charming and handsome? Dutch Miller: No. Lucille Ball: Then what ever gave you the idea? Also from Best Foot Forward Bud Hooper: Is it true that everybody in California sleeps under two blankets? Jack Riley: No! How could all those people get under to blankets?

Charming Delores Costello:

Theda Bara

The Class (Entre les murs, 2008) Next: It seemed like a good idea at the time...

This was one of my favorite hats. Until Professor Kelp's mother destroyed it.

What else but ALL ABOUT EVE (1950)? Anne Baxter had secrets, a hidden agenda (and she wasn't the only one). The only person she couldn't fool was George Sanders, who ultimately might have been more evil than her! Wish there was a sequel. Next: fishing

Ned Beatty : Deliverance (1972) /White Lightning (1973) /Stroker Ace (1983) /Switching Channels (1988) /Gator (1976)/W.W. and the Dixie Dancekings (1975) /Physical Evidence (1989)

with Raquel Welch 100 Rifles 1969 Fuzz 1972 with Jill Clayburgh Semi Tough 1977 Starting Over 1979

with Bernie Casey Sharky's Machine 1981 Rent-A-Cop 1987 with Jackie Gleason Smokey and the Bandit 1977 Smokey and the Bandit II 1980

“Well tell me how to get to the basement,” I told the library lady who was restocking uninteresting books by uninteresting authors on the same shelves that last week held Erle Stanley Gardner. “You’re not allowed in the basement,” she said, “but if you know the title and author I might can find it for you.” “How ‘bout I kinda sneak along behind you and we can look at the books together?” I mumbled. “Okay,” she said.

I also agree with Glenn Close - I've only seen Central Station once, but can still remember it vividly. I also think it's a shame Glenn Close hasn't received an Oscar yet. Paltrow has twirled off into some world of her own. Fernanda Montenegro read a poem as part of the 2016 Rio Olympics opening ceremony. She was dubbed into English by Judi Dench!

The Official Story (1985) The Straight Story (1999)

I concur with Glenn Close. How unjust is it that Close does not have an Oscar, but Princess Gywneth does? Gywneth is so full of herself, quite insufferable if you ask me. I am here for this thread, though I don't particularly feel one way or the other about Judi Dench. I would have been at home in one of those 1940s-1950s Women's clubs, a la Lucy and Ethel's Wednesday Afternoon Fine Arts League club (that typically met on Tuesdays, never on Thursdays, but occasionally on Fridays. Wednesday afternoon just wasn't convenient for club meetings) which is disguised as a time for the women to play Bridge or Canasta, but in reality is just a front for gossiping about people they know who aren't at the "meeting."

the kid really looks happy.

Still, my favorite moment of the presentation is Amy Madigan's early incarnation of Meryl Streep's "Oh yeah, right on, You Go Girl!" performance.

I'd love to see their obit on Dick Enberg.

THERE'S A REASON that THE DISNEY LOT is referred to as "MAUSCHWITZ"

I also care. I really, really care. It's as worthy of note and discussion as any of the other stuff discussed here. And of much more interest, to me. Oscar gossip is everything. Others may return to analyzing the value of Gone With the Wind as literature. YAWN.

Throw in race relations in the movie biz and we're simpatico. Sepiatone

Not from a movie, but I thought it was good: On an episode of "The Burns and Allen Show" Blanche (Bea Benaderet) tells hubby Harry( Larry Keating) , "You're such a jealous old buffoon." And Harry replies, "I'm not jealous!" And Blanche comes back with; "At least I got two out of three." Sepiatone

So, in other words: The Case of the Langushing Library Logistics (...Paul Drake should investigate this)

the way i read it, I saw it as more than just "the look" when she lost, I took it as something was said at the Governor's Ball or word got back to Marcia that Judi was "displeased," actors are a GOSSIPY BUNCH, and for Marcia to drop this tidbit (to me) means that SOMETHING BIGGER than just Judi looking displeased happened. Also JUDI DENCH ALWAYS LOOKS LIKE SOMEONE IN HER VICINITY JUST CUT AN EXTRA RAUNCHY F@RT, one of the reasons i am not a fan is that she always acts annoyed that she's even there to begin with, it's like well, if thou art so irked to go, maybe just stay in London and catch up on EAST-ENDERS or something....

Written on the Wind 1956 The Tarnished Angels 1957 The Last Voyage 1960 next: Steve McQueen and James Coburn

Yes, I’m also Team Redford versus Team Newman. As much as I want to like Paul Newman (or for some reason think that I *should* like him), he leaves me cold. I also really like ALL THE PRESIDENT’S MEN. It’s one of the most engrossing movies about journalists, mostly because it plays out like a detective story, with two young newspaper reporters uncovering clues that link members of the Nixon administration to the 1972 Watergate break-in. (The burglary and the administration’s attempts to cover up involvement in it grew into the scandal that ultimately led to the President’s resignation.) I especially like Robert Redford’s performance in the early parts of the investigation. There’s something very real and engaging in those scenes where Redford (as journalist Bob Woodward) is interviewing leads on the phone and taking notes and doodling. I also like the sequence where Woodward and his Washington Post colleague Carl Bernstein (Dustin Hoffman) try to locate and interview workers for the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP *haha!*) from a personnel list they obtain. The different reactions the reporters receive outside the doors of the committee workers’ homes are compelling. A favorite moment is when they finally find someone who is eager to talk but soon learn that she is not the CREEP worker they’re looking for, just someone with the same last name who is upset by the threat to the Constitution. I haven’t seen THE CANDIDATE (another politically themed movie) yet, but I want to. I do like THE WAY WE WERE quite a bit. Some of my fondness for it is rooted in nostalgia: it’s favorite movie of both my mother and grandmother so I have memories of them watching it during my childhood. But I’ve also enjoyed watching it as an adult even though it is an imperfect movie. Robert Redford and Barbra Streisand play two people who are “wrong for each other” but who fall in love and marry. The biggest problem with the movie is that the couple’s split when Streisand’s character is pregnant with Redford’s character’s child makes no sense, despite his one-night stand with the Lois Chiles character. Apparently, there were some scenes that were cut from the movie that were political in nature (the break-up occurred during the time of the Red Scare/Hollywood blacklist period --- Redford’s character is a screenwriter at this point on the story). The version with those scenes tested poorly with a preview audience while the version without the political scenes tested well. Even with the plot holes in the released movie, there are a number of magical scenes that consistently move me. One is the scene where the college professor reads one of Redford’s stories in class as an example of great writing. The way Redford’s face reveals his character’s modesty and pride is amazing to watch. (Streisand is also very good in this scene.) Another magical scene is the final “years later” one at the end, where the divorced Redford and Streisand meet by chance. Redford’s look when he tells Streisand he can’t have drinks with her and her current husband! And Streisand’s when she responds “I know.” I’ve never seen THREE DAYS OF THE CONDOR in its entirety. I tried watching it a few years ago (I think when it shown on TCM as part of Faye Dunaway’s Summer Under the Stars tribute). I couldn’t get into it then even though I’m a fan of Redford, Dunaway and director Sydney Pollack. Maybe it’s time to give this one another try. This movie was one of the inspirations for CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE WINTER SOLDIER, which is streaming now on Disney+ . . . Another Robert Redford movie I like is BAREFOOT IN THE PARK, adapted from the Neil Simon play. Redford plays the strait-laced newlywed that he also played on Broadway. In the movie adaptation, his free-spirited wife is played by Jane Fonda, who is fantastic in the role and so beautiful. Redford’s non-verbal reactions are hilarious! This was not a movie I expected to like. I had the pre-conceived idea that it would be an un-funny gag-fest. However, when I saw it for the first time last year with my sweetie, we literally laughed out loud throughout it. We loved Mildred Natwick as the wife’s mother, who like Redford reprised her role from the original stage production. The three actors’ comic timing is impeccable and they play Simon’s dialogue “for real” rather than trying to hit the jokes. Charles Boyer plays a bohemian neighbor of the newlyweds that Jane Fonda’s character tries to set up with her mother. As a fan of 1960s fashions, I loved the wardrobe Edith Heath designed for Jane Fonda, especially her long-sleeved orange top with brown slacks and her sleeveless pink sheath (or was it a shift?) dress. I had a major OUCH! moment when one of the characters slipped on an icy stoop. By the way, because the movie is set in New York City, I had previously thought that the “park” in the title was Central Park, but I discovered that it was actually Washington Square Park (the newlywed couple’s apartment is in Greenwich Village).

10) The role originated with Gertrude Lawrence because she had commissioned Rodgers and Hammerstein to create the musical for her.

In most cases, the surviving spouse (in this case, Mickey Deans) is the next of kin and responsible for making arrangements. Here's what I found: Garland’s burial was left up to Mickey Deans (her children “had no say in the matter”) who announced earlier that morning that his wife’s body would be interred at Ferncliff Cemetery in Hartsdale, a small town approximately twenty-five miles north of New York City. “I didn’t want to bury her in Hollywood, to have people walking over her grave and pointing,” he told reporters. “She has given enough. Anyway, they didn’t care in Hollywood. She was just a property and they used her as such.” However, Sid Luft, Garland’s third husband would rather that his ex-wife be buried in Los Angeles, feeling it was where she became a star. But Deans felt that she would have preferred a cemetery on the East Coast since she reportedly was never fond of California. The cemetery is the final resting place of many celebrities, including Jerome Kern, Basil Rathbone and Moss Hart. The wing that would contain Garland’s planned memorial was still being built, so until then, her body was placed in a temporary vault. Ferncliff’s manager had assured Mickey Deans that “Judy would be its greatest star.” However, to pay for the memorial, Deans needed to raise $37,500, hoping to get it from Garland’s family and friends. But by November 1970, he still had not raised the funds and Garland remained in a drawer with the nameplate: “Judy Garland DeVinko” (Mickey Deans real name). Note: According to current day sources, Garland's estate was worth $40,000 at her death (in 1969 dollars), so paying for the memorial out of her estate was not feasible. Deans was desperate. The fact that Garland was still in a temporary crypt evidently bothered him. “It’s wrong. It’s very wrong,” he would say. He hoped to raise the money by writing a book about his time with Garland (the book’s advance would cover Garland’s burial and more), but unfortunately Deans was not a writer, so he approached author Anne Edwards, who was working on her first non-fiction book, a biography of Garland. Deans suggested that they collaborate; he was sure it would be a best-seller. Naturally, Edwards refused his request, believing that Deans had created these “appalling” circumstances that he was in, himself. “I did not hesitate in telling him that I would in no way consider collaborating with him on a book,” Edwards stated. Meanwhile, Garland’s interment bill at Ferncliff was still outstanding—plus steep interest charges. At the time, Edwards was corresponding with crooner Frank Sinatra about his memories of Garland. In one letter, she mentioned the “state of affairs at Ferncliff” with Garland still reposing in storage. Then, several weeks later, Ferncliff’s manager informed Edwards that Sinatra had paid Garland’s outstanding bill, and that “Mrs. DeVinko” would be given a proper burial. Within weeks, Garland was placed in a simple wall crypt on the second floor of the new wing of the mausoleum with the simple inscription: “Judy Garland 1922 – 1969.” At Sinatra’s request, Edwards did not disclose that information in her biography. Mickey Deans passed away in 2003, so after that, Garland's children were able to move her remains without interference. Source: http://allanellenberger.com/judy-garland-her-death-and-afterlife/

Howard's End (1992) with Prunella Scales Next: documentary

Ivanhoe Next: Barry Fitzgerald, Walter Huston, Roland Young

I've been watching reruns of "Dennis The Menace" on Antenna TV and find many of its episodes hilarious. I especially like the first Mr. Wilson (Joseph Kearns). He had a great rapport with Dennis. I also liked Gloria Henry as his Mom. She had a warmth and loving nature. I never cared for Barbara Billingsley. I thought she was cold and very formal with Beaver and Wally. She lacked the warmth that Gloria Henry displayed. Even though she was 98 and I'm sure led a full life it was still sad to hear that Gloria Henry had died.

So many tragic actor/actress deaths: Colin Clive- very talented actor yet a tormented soul. Died of pulmonary tuberculosis and alcoholism at 37 Ross Alexander-Warner Bros actor died of suicide at 29 Charles Emmett Mack -tragically killed in an auto accident on his way to film a scene for "The First Auto". He was 26 Barbara Lamarr- "The Girl Who Was Too Beautiful" died at 29 of tuberculosis Alma Rubens-died at 33 of hepatitis brought on by her continued drug use Jeff Chandler-died at 42 after complications from surgery for a spinal disc Judy Tyler-died at 24 in an auto accident soon after completing "Jailhouse Rock" with Elvis Presley Susan Ball-first she lost a leg to cancer then died of the disease a year later. She was only 21 Robert Walker-died at 32 after being given a sedative after an emotional outburst. He had been drinking and the combination of alcohol and the sedative killed him. Jack Pickford-died at 36 from the alcohol, drugs and fast life he led. Marjorie White-died at 31 in an auto accident Phillips Holmes-killed in a mid air collision while in the Canadian Air Force. He was 35.

I thank you for your kind words. I tend to run off at the mouth like a physicked woodpecker. My grandmother would not let me tell her a story and would instead ask me pertinent questions and then tell me when I was done. I often try to present things to her standard. I must admit also that I had my little fuzzy check it for coherence and grammar and followed his few begrudging comments. Hats and caps from the world at large:

If you're a fan of Claude Rains then Daughters Courageous allows him his best opportunity of these Lane Sisters films, in my opinion. He has the opportunity to bring charm with a hint of vulnerability to his wanderlust father who returns home and wants to settle down. I always found his characterization as the cuddly music loving Papa in the other films a bit too cutesy for my liking. Somewhere I read that Flynn had been under consideration for Four Daughters. I'm glad they didn't waste his talents in this film. Sure, they would have built his part up if it had been him instead of Jeffrey Lynn but that might have been at the expense of John Garfield's outsider. By the way, unlike Flynn, Garfield regarded Michael Curtiz as a favourite director and when you look at their four films together you can understand why: Four Daughters, which made him a star with an Oscar nomination, Daughters Courageous, The Sea Wolf and The Breaking Point, the latter being a particular favourite of the actor. Curtiz was a tough director but he and Garfield got along well.

Murder By The Clock (1931) Paramount released this old house thriller between Universal's releases of Dracula and Frankenstein. Today, with the film's Gothic look thanks to Karl Struss's striking black and white photography, many would be inclined to emphasize a horror element to be found in the production, as well as the mystery. The story may seem familiar but it has some good touches. A wealthy crotchety old lady, fearful of being buried alive in her crypt, has a siren installed in it that can only be operated from the inside. She also has the usual collection of heirs hoping to get her estate. Among them is a lumbering half wit (Irving Pichel), as mentally feeble as he is physically strong, who likes to talk of his desire to kill someone. Naturally he will be the number one suspect if anything happens to anybody. But there is also the fashionable, sleek, conniving wife (Lilyan Tashman) of the old lady's son, despised by the old lady herself, but able to twist her weakling son around her greedy fingers. Those used to the slow pace of early talkies (particularly if you can endure Dracula) will have an easier time enjoying this film than some others. There is also the deliberate measured unnatural delivery of dialogue, a curse of many early talkies, to be found here, though no worse than in other films of the time. But the film also has its pay off moments, the eerie siren in the crypt that we just know we are going to hear sooner or later (more than once in the film actually), along with the over the top performances of both Pichel and Tashman. Tashman's manipulative villainess, while not be be taken seriously because of her somewhat tongue-in-cheek portrayal, is a schemer out for the estate who will commit no murders in the film herself but is ready to twist various weak willed males in the film into committing the crimes for her, all the while trying to maintain an air of innocence to the investigating detective (William "Stage" Boyd in an effectively hard boiled performance) who, incredibly, she also tries to seduce. There is just no stopping this woman. Tashman's blonde seductress can be seen as a forerunner to the femme fatales of '40s noirs. While her performance lacks subtlety she still remains a primary focus of interest in the film. There is also one memorable moment in which an off screen murder takes place, with the camera remaining on Tashman's face throughout it. The expression on her face in reaction to the crime, with her hand motions emulating the strangulation she is watching, can best be described as one of o r g a s m i c glee. Tashman, one of Hollywood's fashion plates at the time who was married to actor Edmund Lowe, would die of cancer three years after this film's release. An old fashioned "fun" thriller, Murder By The Clock has not, to the best of my knowledge, ever had a DVD release. There is, however, a soft looking print of it currently available on You Tube. 2.5 out of 4

Heaven Can Wait(1943)

Purple Noon (1960) High Noon (1952)

Things that cannot be "unseen" and scar people for life.

the moment in question, JUDI seems neither pleased nor annoyed, she says something to her companion. you can see the disappointment in KATE HUDSON'S face, but she rallies and forms a smile in a second:

Or maybe something revealing happened at The Mouse that changed their perspective on things, which wouldn't surprise me the least. Which reminds me, I need to check my traps around the house. P.S. what a title for a thread.

Shirley Jones

THE THRILL OF IT ALL (1963)

Russell Crowe next: The Castle of the Living Dead 1964