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Watched it last night, thank you! Maggie Smith was great, well ALL performances were o'course. It was a Joe Mankiewicz production, written & directed by him. I was astounded and fascinated by the sumptuous Venice wall mural sets. Also surprised by how much Edie Gormé resembled Marilyn in that wig & make up: Her charactor was a hoot!

It was a TCM premiere. You might have seen it on HBO, as they were a production partner. My only beef with that film is that they don't consistently identify the film clips being shown. The film would be improved, IMO, if there were graphics identifying the films. Some are widely known, but there are obscure films in there as well, and they don't always identify them with narration. I saw Paragraph 175 in the theaters on its initial release. The law actually dates all the way back to 1871, and was only removed from the books in 1994, but of course the Nazis broadened the scope of the law and used it to imprison and kill gay men in concentration/extermination camps. Even after the war, the law was used to convict some 50,000 men in West Germany between 1945 and 1969. They relaxed the law by setting an age of consent of 21 in 1969, and the number of arrests and convictions dropped considerably.

this is a HOLLYWOOD REPORTER interview with SHELLEY DUVALL. It starts out with unnecessary descriptions of how she looks now, but gets interesting after that. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/searching-for-shelley-duvall-the-reclusive-icon-on-fleeing-hollywood-and-the-scars-of-making-the-shining-4130256/

i was just thinking of this movie (the upcoming remake) the other day- wondering where it was going to land in the post COVID SHUFFLE. DICAPRIO has surprised me with the passage of time. I'm hard-pressed to think of another performer who has curated a career of such interesting films over the years all while remaining such a fundamentally bad actor.

the wonderful Ann Miller Roger Corman's go-to actor, Dick Miller (eating the flowers in The Little Shop of Horrors dim, but handsome, Miller Redfield, played by Christopher Rich, on Murphy Brown

McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971) Daisy Miller (1974) Miller's Crossing (1990)

I haven't seen Sneakers yet, but it's on my list because I'm a fan of Robert Redford. David Strathairn is excellent as Edward R. Murrow in Good Night and Good Luck. He's also appearing in Guillermo del Toro's upcoming new adaptation of Nightmare Alley. Strathairn is playing "Pete" the drunk married to Zeena.

Lorna, Not sure if you are aware of the "TCM Slumberground" series of YouTube videos where the TCM Underground curator and friends meet to discuss upcoming programming on TCM Underground. Here's one way to find them: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC55WRXRuDkx-mMLhB7B7-KvIH5-dIzxl Sort of an equivalent of having a semi-regular host for Underground. (Thanks to MR6666 for posting links for these and calling attention to them.)

I disagree. I remember that commercial and thought it was great seeing Ann. I have no problem with any of these stars plugging products. Times change, tastes change, stars get older and if they wanted or needed to make money doing the ads, good for them.

Tom, you are right. I should have mentioned Joseph Cotten's wonderful performance in Shadow of a Doubt. He was unforgettable as the psychopathic killer who tries to put on a "normal" front when he flees to his sister's home. I say "tries", because, as the clip you posted here demonstrates, the cracks show when he talks about certain topics. It's interesting, by the way- interesting and disturbing - to ponder just why Uncle Charlie committed these murders in the first place. It's been mentioned already that he really did not put much value on money per sec, leaving it lying around, etc. The money seems to be incidental to his hatred of the "fat lazy widows" who "eat and drink" their money. It's almost as though he feels he's some kind of angel of death on a mission to rid the world of these poor ladies ( not "poor ladies" to him, though, obviously.) And Cotten gets his bizarre, pathological contempt for the rich widows across perfectly. The viewer feels a chill almost as much as the family around the table does after this ominous speech. Yes, Joseph Cotten was a great actor, and it's a shame he's not as much recognized as some others are from the classic Hollywood period. I agree, all you have to do is watch The Third Man and Shadow of a Doubt to appreciate his versatility.

With the possible exception of Bogart, no Hollywood star appeared in more good to outstanding films during the '40s than Joseph Cotten. Citizen Kane, Magnificent Ambersons, Journey Into Fear, Shadow of a Doubt, Since You Went Away, Gaslight, Duel in the Sun, Portrait of Jennie, The Third Man. It was a remarkable run. If he was appearing in junk towards the end of his film career (like a lot of other actors - Carradine, Karloff, Chaney, Lugosi, Rathbone, etc.), who the heck today even remembers a Baron Blood as opposed to Citizen Kane, Shadow of a Doubt or The Third Man? Joseph Cotten's film legacy is assured, even if he as an actor (look at the contrast between his psychopathic charmer in Shadow of a Doubt as opposed to bumbling everyman in The Third Man) is perhaps a bit undeservedly overlooked. Even on this thread, with all the recent comments about Shadow of a Doubt, while Teresa Wright's performance deservedly received praise, I didn't notice a single poster single out Cotten's great performance in the film. One of the most chilling scenes in the film revealing the mind of a psychopath, thanks to Hitchcock's direction and Cotten's performance:

Well, I dunno about Thompson here lavender, but I think I'VE got this all straight now anyway and thanks to you. And NOW if you could explain the plot of this British flick to me, I'll be even MORE in your debt...

Why even question that post.. Obviously 12:30am is literally Sunday morning, however to most of us 12:30 am is still nightime and that was what the poster meant. That 12:30 am showing would be considered the Saturday night showing of the noir., The Sunday morning time slot is 10:00 am that is the Sunday morning time showing of the noir. Not at all confusing.

THe Chipette's babysitter was Miss Miller Gene Kelly played Andy Miller in LES DEMOISELLES DE ROCHEFORT Actor Harold Miller with over 700 imdb acting credits Actor Larry Miller

The Corruption of Chris Miller (1973) Daisy Miller (1974) Redneck Miller (1977) Frank Miller's Sin City (2005)

TOUCH OF EVIL (1958) Next: lots of screen time for Shelley Winters

Levar Burton feels the show would somehow "benefit" with a permanent African-American host. But I don't think any permanent host should be chosen based on that sort of criteria. But that doesn't mean I oppose any permanent host that might be African-American. The past champions idea appeals to me as well. And who is this BRAD to whom you refer? And I'd never consider hosting that show. I haven't the chops and I'd get bored having to say "alliterative" as many times as they use that word on the show. Sepiatone

Oh long before ROCK n' ROLL HIGH SCHOOL...

I love this documentary and I'm so glad TCM showed it. I hadn't seen it for many years. It traces the history of GLBT people in film and covers the issues of secrecy and demonization. It ends on a more positive note but I still wish there was a more authentic portrayal of GLBT in films rather than characterizations.

We're The Millers

Sophie's Choice (re: relationship between Nathan & Sophie) Next: Movie with inside jokes

That was an interesting article-well written with decent details. Personally, I think Shelly Duval looks great, she needed some "filling out". I never realized how good she was in everything she ever did & know she was well loved by her peers. I did not realize she was a "discovery" making her film acting all the more impressive.

I just viewed Guilty Bystander for the first time and, even though it's admittedly a minor film of the noir genre, I think fans of the genre will find much to appreciate in it. Good luck on following the plot but you can enjoy it for its seedy atmosphere, impressive black and white photography and a couple of the key performances. It's a little orphan "B" no one knew that had been assigned to public domain hell for years, further seeming to assure it of film obscurity. I'm glad it's been restored with, I believe, the only 35 mm print of the film known to exist. I also appreciate the fact that its lead protagonist, an alcoholic ex-cop in what initially appears to be a dark tale of redemption, realistically falters a number of times to stay on the wagon. An interesting little drama which makes me wish Zachory Scott had had better film opportunities afterwards. And for those who remember Mary Boland as a flighty non-stop talkative film comedienne (often teamed with Charlie Ruggles), look out. This is a Boland you've never seen before.

I write about this one A LOT, and it is online and on a lot of streaming services, but on a night of BRITISH PORTMANTEAU HORROR FILMS- this one is the best (to me)

Wednesday, June 30 8 p.m. Hold Back the Dawn (1941). Boyer and de Havilland.

Sergeant York (1941)

The Search

Haver, June

Actually Sepia, I'm with lavender on this Ann Miller soup commercial. And in my case, because I've always loved it whenever I see older stars satire themselves and their image, and that's exactly what Ann was doing with those series of soup commercials she made back in the day. It shows me that they don't take themselves too seriously. And besides when this commercial was made, Ann could still hoof it up pretty darn well and certainly didnt't embarrass herself at all in this regard, don't ya think? (...and in this one of 'em specifically, I always thought Dave Willock's last line in it was perfect and funny)

Just watched it on HDNET earlier today. It just doesn't get better than the Ramones. It's on at 6 and 8 today on AXSTV

Sepia, I understand how you feel, for me though, always being a golden age film fan, it was hoot seeing Ann and the rest. I didn't and don't think any less of them or their contributions to films. I just thought it was fun seeing them and I still respected them. We'll agree to disagree on this one, although believe me I understand how you feel.

Y'know, coming across it first without seeing the beginning, I first thought it was MAURY POVICH! I couldn't understand it. I thought his show was still doing well. And now JIMMY "JJ" WALKER is doing one for the same product. LAVENDER: I can understand probably needing the money, but after such a celebrated career I think those stars deserve to be seen more respectable. Sepiatone

I think being in the limelight was main motivation for some.

I just want to say, here and now: Aaargh ! I was really looking forward to the upcoming Noir Alley pick, Guilty Bystander. I've never even heard of this one, let alone seen it, and a fresh brand-new , never-before viewed noir for me is really a treat. However ! due to July 4th Independence Day, and it's being a Sunday this year, Noir Alley is only being aired in the Saturday night time slot, not the Sunday morning one. Now, it's true that I actually think Saturday night is the ideal time for noir viewing, Sunday morning (especially sunny ones !) is not a very film noir day or time. And yes, I did say this when Noir Alley first began ( dear lord, 4 years ago, it was ). But actually, and perhaps hypocritically, I usually catch Noir Alley in its Sunday time slot. But this weekend the Sunday one has been bumped, I guess for some Independence Day -themed movie. This would not be a problem, except that 1) 12:30 am is a bit late even for me to start a full-length movie and 2) my husband loves Saturday Night Live, even the re-runs, and would not be willing to sacrifice that last half hour of that show , not even for Noir Alley. And we always watch Noir Alley in real time, and we have but one tv set. Why don't I record it? I'm looking into that. I'm so low-tech, I'm not sure how to do that. I think my television is a "smart" one with a dvr, but believe it or not, I've never availed myself of this feature. Go ahead and laugh at me, everyone, I know I'm a dinosaur.

And more soldiers: Shoulder Arms (1918) J'accuse (1919) Beau Hunks (1931) The Charge of the Light Brigade (1936) La Grande Illusion (1937) Block-Heads (1938) They Died with Their Boots On (1941) The Story of G.I. Joe (1945) G.I. Jane (1997) G.I. Joe: The Rise of the Cobra (2009) A War/Krigen (2015)

I love reading these schedules. All the effort (and time) people put into them, such creativity too!

I imagine a lot of actors take just about any role or TV commercial just to stay in front of the cameras. But, probably a lot from Hollywood's "Golden Age" made very little compared to later actors and not investing wisely didn't help. I remember one actress who was a guest in a lot of TV shows in the 50's and 60's who quit to become a clerk in a manufacturing company or something such as that. She said she could not support herself and her child on what she made from guest appearances. I find it interesting to look up actors and actresses from supporting roles in pictures from the 30's through the 50's to see what they did and what happened to them. More than a few left acting for more stable careers.

I want to see wonderful crap like BEYOND THE VALLEY OF THE DOLLS or FASTER PUSSYCAT! KILL! KILL! or EEGAH! or GRAVE OF THE VAMPIRE or CHILDREN SHOULDN'T PLAY WITH DEAD THINGS or EATING RAOUL or ROCK n' ROLL HIGH SCHOOL...

Francis Keep Your Powder Dry Half Shot at Sunrise All Quiet on the Western Front

Battleground 1949 Red Badge of Courage 1951 Pork Chop Hill 1959 Patton 1970 The Big Red One 1980 Saving Private Ryan 1998 We Were Soldiers 2002

A few more I wish they'd search the vaults for- All seven films starring my own personal hero, Arch Hall Jr. (Can't believe he hasn't been given a Criterion Collection release 😤); the Choppers, Magic Spectacles, Eegah!, Wild Guitar, the Sadist, the Nasty Rabbit, and Deadwood '76 The Brazilian classic guaranteed to raise you out of a funk because no bad how things are, you know you've got it better than these kids, City of God. Another film that's gonna make you feel just peachy about life ( and incidentally set in a town right up the road from me). Harmony Korine's Gummo And quite possibly the greatest What in Vishnu's name am I watching and why can't I stop movie of all time. From the same warped mind that gave us the non hits like, the Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Quit Living and Became Mixed-up Zombies, the Mad Love Life of a Hot Vampire, and the Hollywood Strangler Meets the Skid Row Slasher. Ray Dennis Steckler's (or Cash Flagg, Sven Christian, Harry Nixon, Wolfgang Schmidt, Cindy Lou Sutters and dozens more) the immortal Rat Phink a Boo Boo

The Lodger (1927) TCM 7/10 A man renting a room is suspected of being the killer of several women in London. This was my first viewing of this early Hitchcock silent film. Despite it being on so late last night, I was engrossed enough to watch it all the way through. It had many of the Hitchcock touches even though this was his first thriller. It was the first time we see the obsession with blondes as all the victims are fair haired women. Ivor Novello has a striking looking face and was very good in the title role. An interesting thing has a triangle forming between the Lodger, the landlady's daughter and the cop on the case. The climax involving an angry mob, the Lodger and a pair of handcuffs still packs a punch.

Indeed. Kitties, whether grown or little, should never, ever be harmed. They are my favorite earthlings absolutely.

We are talking about how TCM shows movies. Are you purposely being dense? You purposely mixing up Hitchcock's leading ladies was bad enough. It showed a lack of respect and disregard for classic film stars. Now you are taking issue with someone's post who is disappointed because the Sunday 10 am noir is not being shown. For your information, TCM considers the 12am Saturday NIGHT showing just that. NOT a Sunday morning showing but a Saturday night showing. The 10 am showing on Sunday is the Sunday morning showing. Got it now?

They are indeed: • Scarlet Street is a remake of La Chienne (1931) • Some Like It Hot is a remake of Fanfare d'amour (1935) • Sorcerer is a remake of The Wages of Fear (Le Salaire de la peur) (1953) • Down and Out in Beverly Hills is a remake of Boudu Saved From Drowning (Boudu sauvé des eaux) (1932) • True Lies is a remake of La Totale! (1991) Nice work, cinemaman! Your thread. 🙂

THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT (1995)

THE TOPEKA TERROR (1945)

Marguerite Chapman

Tom, excellent post and I agree. Joseph Cotten's performance in Shadow of a Doubt cannot be overlooked. He is very effective as the seriel killer and you're right under Hitchcock's direction and Joseph Cotten's understated yet chilling performance, Uncle Charlie is a very frightening character .Cotten was an excellent actor in every film I've seen him in and the whole cast was great. Without a doubt, Shadow of a Doubt, is a terrific film.

the depression...from the viewpoint of the haves...(This Modern Age) and from the view of the have-nots (The Grapes of Wrath) consistently tipsy is chic in The Thin Man but anything but glamourous in The Lost Weekend It's a totally male viewpoint in A Guide For the Married Man--every pretty young woman is eager to have an affair with a middle age man. ..