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The thought of KATHERINE HEPBURN in BODY HEAT now enters my imagination...

The Fan (1949) Based on Oscar Wilde's comedy of manners "Lady Windemere's Fan" involving marital indiscretion in Victoria England. Starring Jeanne Crain, George Sanders.

And that is why actors leave soap opera credits off their Playbill resumes. Cheap shot. Incidentally, Kathleen Turner was nominated for Best Newcomer by the Golden Globes, but lost to . . . get ready for it . . . Pia Zadora. This was the year that almost ended the Golden Globes. Body Heat received no Oscar nominations: nothing for William Hurt, Kathleen Turner, Lawrence Kasdan, or John Barry (music), let alone Best Picture. The term "film noir" was little known by the general public in 1981. Some people would have noted the resemblance to Double Indemnity and The Postman Always Rings Twice, but Body Heat was seen more as a star-making film for both William Hurt and Kathleen Turner, quintessential stars of the 1980s but, alas, no other decade. Unlike Chinatown, The Long Goodbye, and Night Moves, which also had endings that would have been unacceptable in the 1940s, Body Heat has no overlay of "This is what America is like." It's just a good story, well told and well acted.

Even better “BODY HEAT ON GOLDEN POND” Wherein Katherine Hepburn seduces William Hurt (with a Granny complex) to kill her husband Henry Fonda, thereby taking him MINUTES before his time by jumping out of the closet and yelling “BOO!”

Janet. . . I've got something to sayI really loved the skilful wayYou beat the other girls to the bride's bouquet

Seriously though, I know she was/is a legit HUGE TALENT as an actress, But if Kathleen Turner had done a whole series of topless roles in the 1980s she would probably be one of the biggest box office stars of all time. “KATHLEEN TURNER VACUUMS IN THE NUDE” would’ve BLOWN THE BOX OFFICE OF “E.T. “ OUT OF THE WATER!!!!!!

When Body Heat first came out in 1981, a friend who'd seen it said she liked it and that it had a lot of actors from the soaps in it. That's not how anyone would describe it today, but she was absolutely right. Ted Danson was then best known, if at all, for a stint on Somerset toward the end of its run; Lanna Saunders had played a Horton daughter on Days of Our Lives; Michael Ryan, playing a lawyer on Body Heat, had played Pat Randolph's lawyer husband on Another World for years; I believe J. A. Preston had been on Another World at one time; and Kim Zimmer had been a cast replacement on The Doctors, replacing . . . Kathleen Turner. The character, Nola Dancy, was created by Kathryn Harrold, who went off to Hollywood to star in Modern Romance and Yes, Giorgio! Harrold wasn't bad, but Kathleen Turner far surpassed her, and Kim Zimmer, who would go on to star for years as Reva on Guiding Light, was almost that good. Thus Kathleen Turner in 1981 was unknown to almost everyone except soap fans, and the casting of Kim Zimmer in Body Heat was a perfect touch.

A Women's Touch - Doris Day and Allyn Ann McLerie - Calamity Jane another song in a western

so i watched BODY HEAT this morning. I want to apologize for going through the following spiel that I have gone through dozens of times, but I have to explain it in order to explain my frequent reaction to films of the seventies and very early eighties.... I was born in 1978, a little before VCRS and cable blew up- and as such, I missed out on "grown-up movies" until about 1986/87 or so- and even then, I was watching stuff being made at the time, not stuff from the previous era. As such, when I see a film from this time period, 1970-1985ish- for the first time, very often is the case that it is as if it is not the first time I am seeing it because I have already seen this movie imitated, aped, copied, mimicked, parodied, remade, rebooted, and outright ripped off straight to video in a dozen different ways. As such, a lot of innovation, brass, and ingenuity that went into BODY HEAT which was obvious to an audience in 1981 is just not there for me in 2021, especially after we pirated cable in the 1990s and I cut my teeth on late nite erotic thrillers for pretty much the entire decade. That said, it's a fine movie, but I apologize (and regret) that it can't affect me the way I am sure it affected audiences in 1981 that said... KATHLEEN TURNER IS BRILLIANT. She honestly gives THE BEST ACTING IN A SEX SCENE I HAVE EVER SEEN- it's a tour-de-force, and I think some of you guys even know what scene I mean, it's a tight shot of her facing down while, um, a rear entry is being performed just off-camera. it is INTENSE. MY GOD, BETWEEN THIS AND "CRIMES OF PASSION" SHE WAS ONE OF THE MOST COMMITTED ACTRESSES I HAVE EVER SEEN. WILLIAM HURT is sexy. And he's fine. I have just read and heard too many stories about what a terrible human being he is to ever put that out of my mind and just watch him onscreen. TED DANSON was a nice surprise. one almost wonders if he and HURT could have swapped roles:

I can still well recall a summer job I had as a youth working in a factory. The job was a simple one and it was for a full eight hours every day, shovelling dirt and minerals into a kiln. Simple as the job was it was also an exceedingly dirty one. The minerals, with the rotation of that kiln, hung literally like a dark cloud over our heads as we shovelled this mess into it. Everything would be covered with dirt and grime. Blowing one's nose produced a black product such as I would, thankfully, never see again after I quit the job. At the completion of the day's work, of course, there was always the big shower. Even then for some time I could never quite get rid of a dark ring under my eyes. It looked like I was wearing mascara. One day when a workmate (Pete, I think his name was) and I were once shovelling this endless ghastly supply of dirt and minerals the topic of The Adventures of Robin Hood was surprisingly brought up by him. He said that he had always enjoyed the film as a kid but, because of his black and white television, had no idea that it was a colour film. He said that seeing the film for the first time in colour made it a new viewing experience for him. So there we were, shovelling this crap, but at the same time losing ourselves with memories going back to the lush Technicolor greens of Sherwood Forest as we talked of Robin (Errol Flynn) meeting Little John (Alan Hale) for the first time on that fallen log over the creek. Years later at clean job far removed from shovelling stuff into a kiln I met another guy, Jim. Jim had had a hard life, but he had been a successful amateur boxer, undefeated after 50 contests, actually winning either the lightweight or welterweight (I forget which) Golden Gloves. He had a dream of turning professional but suffered a bad cut over one eye in his 50th bout (given to him when his opponent ran across the ring while they were awaiting the decision,which Jim won, and giving him a vicious head butt). Jimmy lost his next bout when that cut was re-opened and a doctor told him that he would never be able to box again as the skin over that eye was thin as tissue paper. The guy who fouled him with a head butt after the match, by the way, was a Montreal tough guy Gaetan Hart, who later became a professional boxer, eventually losing a gutsy title match to the legendary Aaron Pryor ( I'm sure Jimmy enjoyed very punch Pryor landed on him). With his boxing dreams over Jimmy then lived for ten years or so on the streets and there he saw all the meanness there was to see there. He became known as a local tough guy, though he told me he never picked on anyone. People came to him for protection from others. Knowing Jimmy, I could well believe this. Tough guy or not he was also a sweetheart with a big heart. But the streets lead to drug addiction for him and, his biggest lifelong battle, alcoholism. When I first met Jim he hadn't touched a drop in ten years and was going to AA meetings on a weekly basis. Jimmy and I talked about the streets and boxing a lot but one day I brought up a new topic, movies, asking him if he had any favourite actors. "Well, I always kinda liked Errol Flynn" he said, much to my surprise, and then made specific reference to the enjoyment he had received from watching Captain Blood and those tall sailing vessels in a long ago Caribbean Ocean. There's nothing new in talking about the pleasures of escapism that the movies can bring us, but these are a pair of specific illustrations of that pleasure in unpleasant (my case) or harsh circumstances (Jimmy's). Errol Flynn's big budget adventure films made at Warner Brothers have always been a source of particular enjoyment for me, with the elegance and dynamic appeal of the best of those often stirring epics, combined, of course, with the winning combination of athleticism, devil may care charm and light heartedness that Flynn could bring to his roles, making them all seem, at least during his prime years before his self destructive lifestyle took its toll, like such a lark. And it was good to see that my love for Flynn and, in particular, the films of his pinnacle years as a film star was shared by some others that I've known, including a guy shovelling minerals into a kiln and a tough guy seeing the meanness of the streets. Any other Flynn fans here care to comment?

"Ned, let's not think about how much money the old poop has"

40 POUNDS OF TROUBLE

It's not every girl who can pull off an Alice Cooper eye makeup treatment. ~Edit~ Now that I've been treated to several close ups. It's not makeup. They glued on little tufts of Extra King Size eyelash fur. And the sideview is extra creepy with the peepers on that girl.

It's interesting that two female critics were the harshest on Kathleen Turner's acting. If people today were voting on which performance they preferred, Katharine Hepburn in On Golden Pond (which was conceded the Oscar as soon as the film opened) or Kathleen Turner in Body Heat, I believe Turner would make a more than respectable showing.

Sissy Spacek vacuums topless in Welcome to LA, and so does Melanie Griffith in Working Girl. That probably sparked the Seinfeld episode.

(Just to be clear, I could not disagree more with what Maslin wrote about TURNER’s performance AND soap opera acting! )

Especially with Anita Louise there. Errol's eyes glaze over when he talks to Anita but then light up when he first sights Bette. If he had a tail it would have been wagging. And to think that some people said Errol Flynn couldn't act.

If we had gotten our Jetson flying cars like we were promised maybe we'd be a little more tolerant of these type films.

I suggest the original The Day the Earth Stood Still Also, Forbidden Planet (sci-fi take on Shakespeare's The Tempest) If you watched the original Star Trek, The Wrath of Kahn (sp?) and the one with the Whales (2 and 4) are pretty good (did not like Ben C. as Kahn when Pike was the Captain). The original The Time Machine with Rod Taylor and Yvette M. is good Also, Time after Time (another time travel movie with Malcolm McDowell as HG Wells and David Warner as Jack the Ripper; Mary Steenburgen provides some excellent support - she and McDowell were a couple for a while (not sure if they ever married) Now as for what I watched last night, aside from some SVU repeats, used HBO on Demand to watch Married to the Mob. I've seen it before. Michelle Pfeiffer and Matthew Modine make a cute couple, but Dean Stockwell and Mercedes Ruhl are the true gems in this cute film. Dean Stockwell (had a brother, Guy) is one of those child actors who was lucky enough to have a long career (and he is still here).

Jealous, Janet?

Edward G. Robinson Next: Known for feuding

Los Tallos Amargos Ok. I nodded off a couple times, so had to back up. That twist was obvious a mile away, way too predictable. Cinematography was good and bulk of the story line unique. The dream sequences were interesting in a Hitchcockian way, I'll have to go through them again to see if I can find any foreshadowing in there. In all Eddie delivered on his promise with this one. And I watched the Travelogue Glimpses of Argentina before the movie. Not a single Llama, Alpaca, or historical reference. Just about how big horse racing is, the cattle industry -apparently steak is REALLY cheap- and there's a crap-ton of yacht clubs.

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On this message board, that "compliment" would insinuate the person has a big caboose. (one of the earliest, long running threads)

I am always up for suggestions, it’s one of the prime reasons I come to this board. fire away. Although, to specify, I don’t tend to be into the types of sci-fi movies and shows that are set in outer space, I am more open to earthbound sci-fi, things that deal with time travel, supernatural elements, etc.

365 Nights in Hollywood (1934)

I once told a friend of mine -- a great classic film buff -- that he reminded me of George Brent. I meant it as a great compliment, but he was offended.

Christmas in July double feature-- The Bishop's Wife & Miracle on 34th Street

Judith Anderson

George Sanders

Rita Hayworth Next: THE NAKED GUN: FROM THE FILES OF POLICE SQUAD! (1987)

Buddy Epsen next: The Wrath of God 1972

Cats and birds, beware.

I can well understand how fortunate you must have felt to have been able to bring those Steiner-Flynn albums to the public, Ray. After all, how many other stars of the studio era had as much great musical accompaniment in their films as Errol Flynn? And I must commend you for your wonderful contribution to The Adventures of Errol Flynn, one of the best documentaries I've ever seen of a film star (and far and away the best one on Flynn). The ending of it is sad, of course, as his decline and sad final years are discussed. Particularly poignant, I feel, is the selection then of the music from Robin Hood as we see a number of clips of a smiling or laughing Flynn from films in his prime. I have to tell you, Ray, that music was the topper for me as started to choke up. Then, as if to snap us out of it, you selected the rousing sounds of Steiner's Don Juan score under the closing titles to end it all. Very tastefully done, Ray. Great stuff!

The basis premise of the film is: what makes us human, and the POV that a primary factor is the memory of our experiences. For me, that theme has a spiritual relevance. E.g. if there is some type of afterlife after this life on earth, "ME" as I know "ME" only continues in another life (type of existence), if I have some memories of the experiences I had in this life. I like Blade Runner because I find it is a nice combination of sci-fi and a detective story, with that spiritual overtone. Of course I'm a big fan of author Philip K. Dick. My favorite sci-fi author.

It was reissued in 48 as a Blue Ribbon.

I love the cheesy 50s-60s sci-fi like Attack of the Puppet People and Attack of the 50-Foot Woman. I loved The Day the Earth Stood Still. The Incredible Shrinking Man is coming to Criterion in October, so that’s made my list of movies to see. I enjoy the original Star Wars trilogy. But I quickly tire of the alien movies with one CGI spectacle after another.

Well, of course. And I am blessed to have been able to produce the original soundtrack albums for DODGE CITY, ADVENTURES OF DON JUAN, ROCKY MOUNTAIN and several other Steiner Flynns. One of my biggest thrills was preparing the musical score for THE ADVENTURES OF ERROL FLYNN, in which I got to use original music tracks as background for that terrific documentary.

I bet you anything they had a really hard time casting that role because a lot of actors of a certain age said “no.“ It’s not a super substantial part, and it’s certainly not a flattering part. And it doesn’t help that you’re going to be compared to The 6’2 slab of SCRUMPTIOUS cream cheese that was William Hurt in 1981. also those white boxer shorts...

Not a secret here. I love Errol Flynn. He's actually a more recent discovery for me as I hadn't seen any of his films until just a few years ago (maybe 2014? 2015?). I'd heard his name, but had never seen any of his films. I didn't even know what he looked like. Suffice it to say, he quickly replaced Gene Kelly as my favorite actor. Gene is now numero dos. Then, I saw him for the first time on the big screen during a showing of The Adventures of Robin Hood. Yowza. Flynn has one of the all-time greatest entrances, when he walks into Prince John's banquet with one of Prince John's prized deer wrapped around his shoulders. After seeing the gorgeous Flynn with the beautiful Olivia de Havilland in the stunning Technicolor masterpiece that is The Adventures of Robin Hood, I was hooked on Flynn. I rented every Flynn film I could get my hands on: The Private Lives of Elizabeth and Essex, Captain Blood, Adventures of Don Juan, The Sea Hawk... I borrowed his autobiography, My Wicked Wicked Ways, from the library. It was hilarious, tragic, captivating, everything. It is one of the few books that I actually only read one page a night when I got down to the last chapter because I didn't want it to end! I also found his second book, Showdown, at a used bookstore for $7! I am still looking for Beam Ends and I am jealous that Tom has a copy. I now own copies of most of Flynn's films--even some of his 1950s films which I'm less excited about. There's a certain weariness, a sadness to them that I find tragic--especially coming from such a charismatic and lively personality like Flynn. However, he did turn out some good work during the last decade of his life. I did enjoy Against All Flags, Mara Maru, The Master of Ballantrae, and The Sun Also Rises. Flynn's performances during this time take on a bit of cynicism, perhaps taking on a bit of Flynn's true perspective during this time. Had he lived into the 1960s and into his 50s and 60s, I think Flynn would have evolved into a great character actor. Just think of the types of roles he could have taken on had he taken care of his body a little better. I could completely see Flynn in the Cary Grant type roles of the 1950s and 1960s, the sophisticated older man type. My personal favorites of Flynn's however are: My absolute favorite is Gentleman Jim. I think this was one of Flynn's favorite roles as well and I think his enthusiasm for it shows. He is funny, compelling, romantic, sweet (in the scenes with his mother), athletic... he is everything in this film. Combine his performance with the feisty Alexis Smith (one of his best leading ladies, imo) and the hysterical Alan Hale ("Give 'em room!") the cantankerous William Frawley, and the hilarious best friend Jack Carson and you have everything you could ever want in a film. I also love: Never Say Goodbye. One of Flynn's few forays into comedy. This is one of my annual Christmas films. He's fantastic with Eleanor Parker. They make a gorgeous couple. I even loved his scenes with child actor Patti Brady. He is very funny with SZ Sakall. I love this movie and have seen it at least a dozen times. Uncertain Glory. A Flynn film that is not mentioned often, but it is my favorite of his war films. In this film, Flynn actually doesn't play a hero, but he gets a chance to be a hero. My only complaint about this film is his leading lady. She's boring. I wish that the filmmakers had increased Faye Emerson's role and given her the part of Flynn's girlfriend/traveling companion, because she was much more interesting than the lady that was cast. Footsteps in the Dark. Another one of Flynn's comedic roles. In this film, he gets to play a banker who is secretly writing scandalous novels using his high society family and acquaintances as fodder for his book. This is also one of the classic "mystery writer gets pulled into real life mystery" stories. Flynn is adept at comedy and as a detective. This film was potentially going to be the start of a Thin Man-esque series of films, but it didn't do well enough at the box office to warrant a second story. It's a shame too, because Flynn's comedy films are very funny. Montana. This is one of those "the sheep people versus the cow people" westerns, but I enjoy this one. It's one of the few films where Flynn actually plays an Australian and he appears opposite Alexis Smith again. He even sings a song which I enjoy. Silver River. In this film, Flynn plays a more serious role, perhaps even a villainous role. He's fantastic though, as was leading lady Ann Sheridan. I wish that Flynn and Sheridan had made more films together because I love them together in this movie. Thank Your Lucky Stars. Flynn's musical performance in this film is awesome and shows his versatility. It is definitely one of the better and more memorable parts of this film. Cry Wolf. Flynn's only foray into film noir and he appears opposite the amazing Barbara Stanwyck. While this isn't the greatest film noir that I've ever seen, I love seeing Flynn acting against type and thought he made for an interesting villain-esque character. I've mentioned this before, but I've often wondered how Flynn would have fared had he switched roles with Bogart in The Two Mrs. Carrolls, also starring Stanwyck and released the same year. Both Bogart and Flynn seem slightly out of place in their respective films, and think they seemed better suited for the other film. The one thought I always have about Cry Wolf is that Flynn seems too young to be Stanwyck's husband's uncle.

I like some of the non-Universal related Hammer films. Quatermass and the Pit is brilliant; Curse of the Vampire, The Reptile, and The Gorgon are satisfying. There are others as well. I'd like to see a festival of non-horror Hammer films, of which there are many. How can you not like this lady: Jacqueline Pearce in The Reptile

good one! John Houseman next: CANNONBALL RUN II (1984)

I'd rather Eddie showed The Loretta Young film The Accused since it hasn't been on TCM in years and Cause For Alarm is shown more often.

MALAYA (1949)...THUNDER BAY (1953)...CHEYENNE AUTUMN (1964) Next: Gene Autry & Smiley Burnette

ALSO, THIS IS UNRELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR THREAD, BUT HERE SEEMS AS GOOD A PLACE TO POST IT AS ANY: (I AM SORRY THE FIRST 10 SECONDS SEEM TO BE SOMEONE'S TV MENU) I KNOW YOU'LL LOVE THIS:

Ha! I just read that Crenna initially didn't want to take the role until his wife told him he'd be an idiot not to.

Mr. & Mrs. Smith (1941) A couple who have been married for three years are shocked to learn that their marriage is not legally valid. Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005) A bored married couple is surprised to learn that they are both assassins hired by competing agencies to kill each other. Suicide Squad (1935) Larry Baker is a young fireman whose daring exploits have led him to receiving a lot of newspaper publicity which goes to his head. Suicide Squad (2016) A secret government agency recruits some of the most dangerous incarcerated super-villains to form a defensive task force. Their first mission: save the world from the apocalypse. Notorious (1946) A woman is asked to spy on a group of Nazi friends in South America. How far will she have to go to ingratiate herself with them? Notorious (2009) The life and death story of The Notorious B.I.G. (a.k.a. Christopher Wallace), who came straight out of Brooklyn to take the world of rap music by storm. Iron Man (1931) Prizefighter Mason loses his opening fight so wife Rose leaves him for Hollywood. Without her around Mason trains and starts winning. Rose comes back and wants Mason to dump his manager Regan and replace him with her secret lover Lewis. Iron Man (2008) After being held captive in an Afghan cave, billionaire engineer Tony Stark creates a unique weaponized suit of armor to fight evil. The Fast and the Furious (1954) A trucker framed for murder breaks out of jail, takes a young woman hostage, and enters her sports car in cross-border road race hoping to get to Mexico before the police catch him. The Fast and the Furious (2001) Los Angeles police officer Brian O'Conner must decide where his loyalty really lies when he becomes enamored with the street racing world he has been sent undercover to destroy.

Here's a couple of movies with completely different storylines for ya, slayton ol' boy. In 1941, you had The Devil and Miss Jones starring Jean Arthur. And in 1973, you have The Devil in... (...oops, oh wait...not quite the same title here, huh...sorry, never mind)