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First, the 41 Lincoln Continental was in the movies. It was what Sonny Corleone drove to the toll booth in The Godfather. Second, it's interesting indeed. A quick look see reveals a few things. This pic with the Georgia plate appears to be the correct car. It matches the pic below posted with a story from The Hollywood Garage Aug 2019 that offers more of the story. "Rita Hayworth's 1941 Lincoln Continental. Hayworth owned this car for about 30 years before giving it to her secretary, Frita Wolfe. It is believed that the car was a gift from Orson Welles (they would marry in 1943). In 1972, Wolfe sold the Lincoln to Aspen Pittman for $2000. At that time it had a 1955 Cadillac engine in it. Aspen, who passed away earlier this month, sold the car to finance his new business, Groove Tubes (it became very successful). At some point, it became part of the Art Astor collection which auctioned the car in 2008 for $209,000. It was offered again in 2011 and 2015 through RM Sotheby's but failed to hit reserve. We believe it is still for sale-" But there's also this pic supposedly taken by a fan with a Cal plate then another with the same plate at a scrape drive where her bumpers were removed. EDIT~ Here's the listing from Sotheby's, even more interesting info. "This remarkable 1941 Lincoln Continental Coupe is believed to have been owned by Rita Hayworth, the beautiful Hollywood actress and dancer. In the 1940s, she was married to Academy Award-winning screen legend Orson Welles, who gained fame for such iconic films as Citizen Kane. Jim and Cheryl Farrell, who co-authored Ford Design Department: Concept & Showcars, researched the story of Hayworth’s Lincoln and uncovered the following. Welles and Hayworth were likely involved romantically before the fall of 1941, and while she was on location in Georgia, records indicate a green Continental with green leather and whipcord interior was shipped to Atlanta. The December 1941 issue of Ford News contained a photo of her, standing next to precisely such a Lincoln with Georgia license plates (the same number H127443’s license plate has today), even though the house in the background seems to resemble her home in California. The Farrells also reference Mr. Jim Cubbison, an LCOC member, who spent summers in the 1940s at Lake Arrowhead, where he saw Welles and Hayworth there with such a car. The next evidentiary item is a photo taken in 1942 of Hayworth sitting on the front fender of her car, promoting a wartime scrap drive. Carrying 1942 California plates, the car is of the correct 1941-model year. Regardless of the photography and all the mystery, Miss Hayworth is believed to have driven her Continental for about 30 years. According to more recent research, it is believed the next owner of Hayworth’s Lincoln was her personal secretary, from whom it was acquired by an independent collector who sold it years later and lost track of it. In 2008, he was given the opportunity to inspect the car offered here and, although several elements proved incompatible with the aforementioned secretary’s car, numerous other details corroborated the two cars’ stories, including the fact that both eventually came out of Nevada and were formerly fitted with different engines with the same mounting points. Regardless of whether this is the same car, we do know that the car depicted on these pages was acquired in the late 1980s by Ed and Kit McCormick. A thorough restoration was commenced before they sold the car to Mr. Art Astor in 1990, who used its engine for his own 1941 Continental Cabriolet. This particular Continental, however, was then fitted with another V-12 engine and in 2000, Mr. Astor commissioned a restoration by Bob Baldwin of Sunset Ford. Chris Kidd’s Tired Iron Works of Monrovia, California further sorted the car by converting the electrics to 12 volts, flushing out the fuel lines and tank and rebuilding the carburetor and steering column. Today, the car still presents well and it would be an excellent example to drive and enjoy. So, was the car offered here owned by Rita Hayworth and is it the same car purchased years ago from her personal secretary? Although there currently is no conclusive documentation to prove the matter beyond the shadow of a doubt, there is also no other Paradise Green ’41 Continental Coupe on the market with quite as convincing a provenance."

Charlie Chaplin David Lean Carol Reed Michael Anderson Terence Young Nicolas Roeg Stephen Frears Jonathan Glazer Andrea Arnold

Michael Apted Richard Attenborough John Boorman Ronald Neame Christopher Nolan Alan Parker Guy Ritchie John Schlesinger Ridley Scott Peter Yates

James Whale--touching up the monster's makeup Charles Crichton on the set of A Fish Called Wanda Tony Richards, on the set of Tom Jones

Yes, actually there is, MissW. It's right in Section-7 of the Rules of Conduct Bylaws, although of course, most people and such as yourself, don't seem to know this. (...I had this added into it back around 2015, and when it seemed too many people were skimming over some of my postings around here, and EVEN the rare ones in which I wasn't trying to make some kind'a joke and was actually being serious and made a damn good point about something in it!)

Burt Reynolds could have played Max Schmeling. Next: actor or actress with a lithp

I think if we could only discuss Eddie's one film per week, and none this month, this thread would fall to the back pages. I like having it as kind of a Noir Central that includes neo noir and also discusses Eddie's movie of the week when he gets back.

Eeh! You no fool ME! There'a AIN'T no Sanity Clause!

Well, I don't have time to check more than one thread about my favourite type of movie. I like it that "all things noir" can come up and be discussed on this thread. I don't want to be scrolling around on the forums to read about different noir films, just because some of them weren't aired on the specific program "Noir Alley". But you're right in that stuff comes up on this thread that I'm not that interested in. My solution is to just skim those posts, or better yet, if I think it's about something I don't care to read I just scan the first few words and then move on. There's nothing that says you have to read each and every post on this thread, and if it's not about a film that interests you, don't take the time to read it. Problem solved. I just don't really see it as an issue that more than the actual "Noir Alley" movies are discussed here.

"Yes, we must rid ourselves of those humanoids, and because they're YANKEE humanoids!"

The Spiral Road (1962)

Nope, probably not. (...but I'll take a pass on seein' any of 'em that might star that annoying purple dinosaur)

Don't worry, I will not be fooled again!

Incidentally, some other neo-noirs, arranged chronologically, that might have been good picks for the Noir Alley series that just finished..... Experiment in Terror (1962) Lilith (1964) Bunny Lake is Missing (1965) Pretty Poison (1968) Mississippi Mermaid (1969) The Liberation of LB Jones (1970) I Walk the Line (1970) Play Misty for Me (1971) Charley Varrick (1973) The long Goodbye (1973) Thieves Like Us (1974) The Conversation (1974) The Parallax View (1974) Obsession (1976) Last Embrace (1979) Prince of the City (1981) True Confessions (1981) Hammett (1982) Still of the night (1982) Witness (1985) Blue Velvet (1986) The morning After (1986) At Close Range (1986) The Bedroom Window (1987) Black Widow (1987) House of Games (1987) Stormy Monday (1988) Sea of Love (1989) The Grifters (1990) Internal Affairs (1990) Miller's Crossing (1990) The Two Jakes (1990) Dead Again (1991) The Silence of the Lambs (1991) Final Anaylsis (1992, a bit goofy toward the end but I like how it pulled the rug out from under the viewers feet) Flesh and Bone (1993) In the line of Fire (1993) To Die For (1995, yes its a noir comedy, but Nicole Kidman's performance here is one of the best modern femme fatales) Devil in a Blue Dress (1995) Lone Star (1996) Jackie Brown (1997) LA Confidential (1997) Gattaca (1997) A Simple Plan (1998) Twilight (1998) out of Sight (1998) The Man Who Wasn't There (2001) Road to Perdition (2002) Mystic River (2003) Hollywoodland (2006) Zodiac (2007) Before the Devil Knows You're Dead (2007) Gone Baby Gone (2007) Bad Times at the El Royale (2018) Motherless Brooklyn (2019)

Reds (1981) The Devil and Miss Jones (1941) F.I.S.T. (1978)

Walk on the Wild Side

I wish they would show Crossfire. Excellent movie and it is still relevant today (with the rise in anti-Semitism). They've shown it numerous times on TCM.

From the Internet Movie Database: "Bela Lugosi was originally cast as Dr. Sovac and Boris Karloff as Kingsley/Cannon, but Karloff's interpretation of the gangster was unconvincing and he was replaced by Stanley Ridges. Karloff instead got the role as Dr. Sovac and Lugosi got a minor role, although his second billing remained. (Bojarski, 'The Films of Bela Lugosi', 1980) " "In an interview, Curt Siodmak said of Boris Karloff, who demanded - and obtained - Bela Lugosi's role in Black Friday (1940): 'Karloff didn't want to play the dual role in Black Friday. He was afraid of it. There was too much acting in it. It was too intricate.' Karloff thus ended up with the part written specifically for Lugosi, inexcusably leaving the Hungarian actor to play a then poorly cast, minor role as an American gangster, instead of being given Karloff's dual role which instead went to Stanley Ridges. In an interesting twist of events, the following year, Lugosi would have the chance to prove how great he would have been in the dual part, as he was cast in a split personality role in Monogram's Invisible Ghost (1941)."

Wow, that was fast! What I was looking for is that these actors all played actual historical characters who were on the ship the night it sank (whereas many of the characters in the 1997 Titanic, for example, are fictional): Aherne: Captain Edward J. Smith in Titanic (1953) Braeden: John Jacob Astor IV in Titanic (1997) Gruffudd: Fifth Officer Harold Lowe in Titanic (1997) McCallum: Assistant Wireless Operator Harold Bride: A Night to Remember (1958) Reynolds: Molly Brown in The Unsinkable Molly Brown (1964) Smith and Astor went down with the ship; the other three survived. Great job, Peebs, and your turn. 🙂

Where the Boys Are (1960)...I've probably seen this fifty times...

David And Lisa (1962) Frank Perry was Oscar nominated for directing this excellent look at psychological problems of teen agers. There are some striking nightmare sequences involving a clock.

This isn't a movie car per se but if it's provence is true it should be appropriate here. Whilst looking through my version of the Monkey Ward wishbook, ClassicCars.com, I happened upon a very interesting listing for a '41 Lincoln Continental. In the sellers description he says that the previous owner, upon acquiring the vehicle went to title it and was sent to the Massachusetts State Police. There he supposedly was informed that the car had been stolen years before from none other than Rita Hayworth! But wait, there's more! Not only did the Linc belong to lovely Rita, it was a gift to Miss Hayworth from Henry Ford himself! He personally presented this automobile to her in her favorite color, lavender. As you can see in the photos, somewhere along the line it was painted a god awful green. The previous owner is supposed to have restored the car but it sounds more like a restomod to me since it's still that nasty bland green and he replaced the wheels with '56 Chrysler Imperial wire wheels and the engine with a...'55 324 Olds Rocket engine. 😶 The provence of this one is more than a little dubious but even if it's not entirely true it's a great story to be able to tell as you're styling around town. If it is true though and you took the time to restore it to Rita's original gift condition? ... y'know 🤔...at under thirty grand and the opportunity to have a piece of cinematic history or a helluva good tall tale to tell... this might just be in ol' Ed's price range. Wouldn't be in Bride of Ed's price range but easier to ask forgiveness than permission 🤓

Oh, I dunno, Ed. If say, the guy also invited the Lone Ranger to this little soiree, he'd have a ready means at his disposal to off anyone who might be suffering from lycantropy, wouldn't ya say? (...he of silver bullet fame, ya see)

The Swarm?!? Beyond the Poseidon Adventure?!? Back to back!?! Oh be still my colon! I might just swoon!

Oh wow, THANKS FOR THIS LIST! my remarks in re: some of your carefully curated soggetos: Bunny Lake is Missing (1965)- the messageboards are a 80-20 split on this one, with me being in the minority that ACTUALLY LIKES IT (I also was surprised myself as I am not a CAROL LYNLEY fan.) Pretty Poison (1968)- Recentlyish saw this on YOUTUBE (PRISTINE PRINT, GORGEOUS FILM), but I was overall let-down by it. In his book ALTERNATE OSCARS , DANNY PEARY argued that TUESDAY WELD should've won BEST ACTRESS over HEPBURN AND STREISAND IN 1968. I like the book, but for this entry, I make my skeptical Nigerian child meme face. The Liberation of LB Jones (1970)- this was featured in the book BAD MOVIES WE LOVE. It is on amazon prime for free and I made it about 20 minutes in. it's like IN THE HEAT OF THE NIGHT has been re-imagined as a tacky, foul-mouthed drive-in movie directed by (checks note) HOLY S***, WILLIAM WYLER????????. Thieves Like Us (1974)- I highly recommend the source novel for this movie, as for the movie, I have never seen it, and was searching for it yesterday. Unless it's on DVD, I think it is totally unavailable on any streaming service and I don't know if TCM has ever shown it. Prince of the City (1981)- I have not seen it, but it is my understanding that TREAT WILLIAMS is good in this. (see: skeptical Nigerian child meme) Hammett (1982)- also have not seen, but FREDERIC FORREST was cute. The morning After (1986)- was recently posted on youtube in full. Black Widow (1987)-I had forgotten this one! shot by CONRAD HALL, it is sposed to be STUNNING. Internal Affairs (1990)- RICHARD GERE decides to act and HE SUCCEEDS!!!!!!!!!!!! (THIRTY YEARS LATER AND THIS [as yet one-time] FEAT STILL STUNS ME.) Dead Again (1991)- IT'S TACKY, but I love it. Final Anaylsis (1992, a bit goofy toward the end but I like how it pulled the rug out from under the viewers feet)- speaking of TACKY, yes, BUT I LOVE IT TO PIECES. ANY FILM WHERE HAIR EXTENSIONS BECOME A MAJOR PLOT POINT IS FOR ME. Lone Star (1996)- I hated this movie, although I do like saying the title like RICK MORANIS in SPACEBALLS. LA Confidential (1997)- love love looooove this one tho.

Saturday, August 7 Abbott & Costello SUTS 8 p.m. Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948). I bought an abridged silent 8mm copy of this when I was a kid. And for years I had never seen a version on television that included the opening scene in the shipping office with Frank Ferguson. That was always cut out.

Gert Frobe as Goldfinger and desmond Llewelyn as Q

Thanks, NoShear. Who needs gear when you have ingenuity? Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang (1968) was a loose adaptation of Fleming's book of the same name, published in late 1964. The movie features two actors who played Bond movie characters. Can you name the characters and their respective Bond films?

But that's ok, isn't it ? It's a fun thread where we can discuss all noir, ya got a problem with that? 😜

Sorry, my above post was a bit snarky...and clearly it was a typo, not a spello ( "boors". ) I hope. You're right in that taste, whether in films, music, or anything else, is personal and subjective, so, yeah, "to-may-to, to-mah-to". BUT ! A person can acknowledge that something - a film or song or in this case, a singer - is good, has quality, even if they don't enjoy it personally. I get that Frank's singing "does nothing for you", but to dismiss him , as you seem to be doing, as just indifferently talented , is just silly. You don't have to like his style to acknowledge that he is talented, just not for you. Hmm...I can't stand Motley Crue , metal is not for me, but I would not dismiss them as untalented just because I personally don't enjoy their music. (Just an example, I picked that band at random.)

Oh, I don't know. By "baby face" I just meant, really young-looking. Here he is (William Holden) at the age of 21 in Invisible Stripes. He looked even younger than 21 in that film, and very cute.

The Molly Maguires (1970) How Green Was My Valley (1941) The Organizer (1963)

Never Give a Sucker an Even Break (1941)

Lawman 1971

Here's one I would've thought everyone by now would be familiar with because it has become somewhat of a staple during Halloween celebrations over the years and similarly to how Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' has become. And yet it still seems I run across a lot of people who aren't familiar with the following song which was featured in the 1986 comedy Back to School starring Rodney Dangerfield. It seems the recording was primarily only a mild hit out west at the time of its initial release and where Danny Elfman formed the L.A.-based band Oingo Boingo.

The Beast Must Die (Argentina, 1952 & France, 1969, adaptations of the same 1938 crime novel) A grieving parent takes vigilante action against the person he believes to be responsible for his child's death. The Beast Must Die (UK, 1974) A tycoon invites a group of people to his island estate, intending to out one of them as a werewolf.

And don't forget "taxes" here too, dude! (...as Ben..Franklin that is, not Mankiewicz..said)

She was a Halston model - this photo looks like it's from a fashion show too. Shawna Hamic played her in the recent Halston mini-series:

Homicidal (1961) William Castle's imitation of Hitchcock's Psycho

Didn't Robert Wagner use Monroe for practice to prepare for Natalie? I know I read this somewhere,,,,,,

The Monroe case reminds me a little of the JFK case--lots of theories, very little evidence for the conspiracy theories, and one author after another repeating the errors of earlier authors, but everyone loves a good conspiracy story. They can't seem to accept a rather simple to understand occurrence when a more notorious one is out there. In 1983, Thomas Noguchi published his memoirs, in which he discussed Monroe's case and the allegations of discrepancies in the autopsy and the coroner's ruling of suicide. These included the claims that Monroe could not have ingested the pills because her stomach was empty; that Nembutal capsules should have left yellow residue; that she may have been administered an ****; and that the autopsy noted no needle marks despite the fact that she routinely received injections from her doctors. Noguchi explained that hemorrhaging of the stomach lining indicated that the medication had been administered orally, and that because Monroe had been an addict for several years, the pills would have been absorbed more rapidly than in the case of non-addicts.He also denied that Nembutal leaves dye residue. He noted that only very recent needle marks are visible on a body, and that the only bruise he noted on Monroe's body, on her lower back, was superficial and its placement indicated that it was accidental, and not linked to foul play. Noguchi finally concluded that based on his observations, the most probable conclusion is that Monroe committed suicide. (Wikipedia).

Smith, Constance

Movies where we sing about unionization and strikes— NEWSIES PAJAMA GAME BOUND FOR GLORY

I echo the plaudits for Roger Livesey and Evelyn Keyes. Two of my favorites also. How about some love for Steve Cochran? Great looking, great actor, always compelling.

Sure. And who can blame us? Not many people an resist any tale of a dog and his boy! Sepiatone

The Affairs of Cellini (1934)

Norma Rae (1979)

The Goldwyn Follies

1946

James Stewart