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Ed Asner was wonderful as Lou Grant, assertive and, at times, grumpy on the outside but a bit of a marshmallow inside. Sure, on the surface, it sounds like a stereotype but Asner, along with the show's great writing, brought a depth to the role that never made his character seem like a cliche. These many scenes, with Mary seeking advice from Mr. Grant in his office, were, as far as I'm concerned, the very heart of The Mary Tyler Moore Show. Thanks, Ed Asner, for your marvelous contribution to one of the great situation comedies. It's time to start giving Mary advice again. RIP.

https://deadline.com/2021/08/ad-asner-dead-lou-grant-mary-tyler-moore-1234823859/ RIP Mr. Asner. I loved you as Lou Grant in "The Mary Tyler Moore Show," as Carl in "Up," and as Santa in "Elf." Asner's passing leaves Betty White as the only surviving cast member of "The Mary Tyler Moore Show." She's also the only surviving cast member of "The Golden Girls."

And just about any show from the 40's, 50's and 60's. Betty White is the Olivia De Havilland of Television. 😄

West Side Story (1961) The Lords of Flatbush (1974) The Warriors (1979) The Outsiders (1983) Rumble Fish (1983) Boyz n the Hood (1991) Menace II Society (1993) Gangs of New York (2002) City of God (2002) Straight Outta Compton (2015)

Isn't this what FilmStruck was all about? Films from the Turner library with films from the Criterion Collection? The problem I had with FilmStruck is that someone else chose what films from the Turner library would be available. It was limited to around 60 films, usually films with household names or films that fell under certain themes. I like to create my own themes and I like to be able to discover the work of second tier stars and character actors. I don't just want films starring John Wayne or Katharine Hepburn all the time or films only directed by Alfred Hitchcock and John Ford. I want a more comprehensive view of film history to include unheralded programmers, B films and various other neglected classics. Anyway I think that since 2008 when I started watching TCM, started recording things on VHS and DVD and started streaming and buying titles on Amazon Prime and other online sources, I have been creating what I call the TopBilled Classic Library.

Yes. But I rather doubt: That would be enough to cover the costs of scanning EVERY title in the TCM library (I don't want to rewatch Casablanca, I want to see that rightfully obscure MGM 1930 short that features no one you've ever heard of and is moldering at the back of the archives), and maintaining the infrastructure necessary to catalog every title and make them available on demand. That the executives would authorize something like this, when their established business model is to require people to pay for a cable or streaming package bundled with channels the viewer doesn't want to see, in order to get TCM and/or other channels they want.

Change for change's sake is often not an improvement at all.

I'm still unsure of what game TCM is playing vis a vis "social justice reform." The movies they have traditionally programmed come, of course, from a different time. In many ways, they are relics of that time, frozen in celluloid and immutable. They can't be changed. That many of those films fly in the face of today's sensibilities goes without saying. We are not stupid,. We know this. So I have some aversion to being lectured to by TCM. I know this isn't driven by the hosts. They are paid presenters reading a script. But a steady diet of wokism will only drive viewers away, as, by its very nature, it takes aim at many of our most beloved films. And more than that, it's simply unnecessary. Is blackface offensive? Of course. We get it! Is nearly every role by Willie Best insulting to blacks (and everyone else)? Yes. But again, we get it! I come to TCM for enjoyment and a bit of camaraderie and to learn a bit about "old Hollywood." I find the studio system fascinating and the films made them equally so. So please god don't turn TCM into some forum where every film is judged by its adherence to 2021 mores. It won't work.

One of the most talented actors, ever. I could watch him in anything. And . . . he hated spunk!

I met him once and he was SO NICE!!!! (And it was in a situation where he did not have to be!) sad to hear this.

Don't forget that John Amos appeared occasionally as Gordy the weatherman during the run of the series.

IMDb lists about 18 projects he was involved with in various stages of planning to completion. Busy to the end.

With seven wins, Asner reigned as the most-honored male actor in the history of the Primetime Emmy Awards. He also became the first series regular to win comedic and dramatic Emmys, and it was for playing the same character -- Lou Grant. He received three Emmys (1971, 1972, 1974) as Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series for his work as Grant in CBS' much-praised "Mary Tyler Moore" sitcom. He then received two Emmys (1978, 1980) as Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series after the character was spun off in CBS' hour-long hit "Lou Grant." Carroll O'Connor, Edie Falco and Uzo Aduba duplicated Asner's feat of winning Emmys for comedic and dramatic series. O'Connor was honored for performances in "All in the Family" and "In the Heat of the Night." Falco won for "The Sopranos" and "Nurse Jackie." Aduba won Emmys for her performances as Suzanne "Crazy Eyes" Warren in Netflix's "Orange Is the New Black." Her first Emmy came when "OITNB" was entered as a comedy. She won again when the series was considered a drama. Asner's other Primetime Emmys were for his performances in the 1970s ABC miniseries "Rich Man, Poor Man" (as the difficult father of the Jordache brothers) and "Roots" (as the captain of a slave ship).

If I could view every film in the TCM library, regardless of the condition it is in, then yes I would pay ten bucks a month for that. The question is, where is the date cut-off for Warner Brothers films, because the original Turner Library consisted only of WB films 1929-1948. I doubt you would be able to see recent releases of WB films. But I would want access to ALL of the silent films in the MGM library, even those that have never been scored.

Tramp, Tramp, Tramp (1926) - Harry Langdon likes the billboard girl (Joan Crawford). Boccaccio 70 (1962) - Anita Ekberg tempts morality preacher. Jaws (1975) - For a fun and safe holiday! Three Colors: Red (1994) - Look, that's me!

The Hill (1965)

What, TB?! Didn't you read her full bio in on that webpage or somethin'? It SAID: In the 1930s, Jeanne quit The Biz and started working as a car hop at the Sea View Diner in Malibu. In 1940, she quit that job, moved to Seattle and started working at the Boeing Aircraft Plant building B-17s for the war effort.(google "Rosie the Riveter" for further details) In '46, she moved back to Southern California and began selling real estate in the booming market there. Tiring of that in the early 1950s, she got into the ground floor of the coonskin cap and hula hoop business, and then in '64-'65 that whole Beatlle wig thing. In '69 and feeling she had sold out to "The Establishment", she lived for a short while at the Spahn Ranch along with Squeaky Fromme and the rest of Charlie's girls, but thankfully and in contrast to the rest living there, Jeanne believed in a policy of strict non-violence, and thus was not involved in any manner with that bit of unpleasantry. By the mid-'70s, she was...ahem..."Stayin' Alive" as a professional Disco dancer at a club owned by Danny Terrio near the intersection of Wilshire and La Brea. In the '80s, she worked as a seamstress adding shoulder pads to women's power suits, and when that whole Joan Crawford look made an unexpected return into the fashion world. In the '90s, it was back up to Seattle for Jeanne, and to a job as Bill Gates' personal assistant. Tiring this time of all that rain, rain, rain up that-a-way, she moved back to SoCal in 2010 and got involved in the growing drone business. AND, in 2019 feeling she had finally socked away enough money into her Roth IRA, she retired to her small little ranchette in Ojai California, and where she would live comfortably until her death in 2029 at age 139. (...pretty interesting life overall, I'd say!)

I don’t see what’s “woke” or even objectionable about Malone pointing this out. It’s a true fact, isn’t it? And it was already quite rare in 1945 to see a white actor in blackface (even if it’s not specifically minstrel show blackface) in a dramatic role, so noting this in some introductory comments seems appropriate. Black actresses were considered for the role, but a deliberate choice was made to cast a white actress and put dark makeup on her. This is notable and worth mentioning, and no, everybody doesn’t know this already. Many people watch TCM who haven’t seen all the movies before and don’t know much about film history.

Well be fair. She does look a little odd. I'd say an explanation might be in order.

To me, Ed Asner had a Spencer Tracy quality. To wit, IMO, he was his generation's "Spencer Tracy." I wasn't a regular viewer of The Mary Tyler Moore Show. The one episode -- or more accurately, one moment in an episode -- that remains clogged in my memory banks was ursine Lou Grant (Asner) barking at Mary Richards (Moore), "You know what? You've got spunk! . . . I HATE spunk!"

I started this thread almost seven years ago. If you click on the link in the original post and go to Jeanne Eagels' page on the TCM database, it still says she died in 2029.

Little Caesar (1931) The Public Enemy (1932) My Brother's Wedding (1983)

"I'm a poet, after a fashion: 'Mary lad a little ham'..er, 'Mary mad a bit of mam'....oh, she had a GOAT." I remember when Disney's Tarzan (1999) came out, animation wags said that when villain Clayton first appears onscreen with his rifle, they expected him to say "Heheheh...Kind of outsmarted you, eh, little chum?"

Edward Asner was in a lot of good movies that I liked. The Slender Thread 1965 El Dorado 1966 Skin Game 1971 Fort Apache The Bronx 1981 Edward Asner was also in the mini series Roots . Edward Asner was very good actor and i will miss him.

That information I posted was so old the document it contained crumbled to dust right after I copied it!

If Eddie is going to show a Hugo Haas \ Cleo Moore film I recommend One Girl's Confession (1953) over Strange Fascination. The film has a better storyline and out of the 7 films they made it is the one I like the best. Here is Hugo with Cleo in the background.

I'm a member of MOMA (the Museum of Modern Art), which I can walk to. They are resuming their in-theater screening series (vaccination proof required) but have also added "Virtual Cinema" for members. Upcoming virtual series which I am looking forward to include "Magnolia Pictures at 20," a hybrid (virtual and in-person) series of 22 movies; and "John Ford Rarities," featuring two early John Ford films, which I have never seen. Many other offerings as well, focusing on early cinema as well as international films. https://www.moma.org/calendar/film

Burt Mustin (was 67) *** Next: made a film with George Raft

My personal homevideo library consists of some 5500 titles so it would be a 'No' from me for an extra $9.99 a month.

I’ve done the same thing: recorded many, many films from TCM, to supplement our collection of commercially-issued DVDs. While these physical discs take up a lot of space around our house, my wife and I really like being able to watch the movies we’re interested in when we want to. Even the streaming services with very good taste — e.g., the old Filmstruck and the current Criterion Channel — only feature a limited selection of films chosen by someone else, and they disappear after a while. While a streaming service made up of the entire TCM film library (I.e., all the movies they would normally show) sounds great in theory, it seems like the necessary server capacity would be hugely expensive. I’ve always assumed that’s why there aren’t any truly “everything-all-the-time” streaming services already, but tell me if you know otherwise. (Yes, streaming companies do like to limit their available content as a way of controlling demand, but I don’t think that’s the only limiting factor.) There’s another major problem with streaming services for some people (including me): millions of potential viewers don’t have internet service that supports streaming. I get internet service and high-definition video by satellite, and the internet service is substandard in terms of speed and capacity compared to the typical wired internet service provided by cable and phone companies. Because there is no wired internet service where we live, we can’t do streaming in any meaningful way. (When we’ve tried it a few times, it was a nightmare of constant buffering; it would have taken hours to get through a 30-minute show.) To answer the OP’s original question, no, I wouldn’t pay $9.99 per month for an “everything-all-the-time” TCM streaming service.

When this movie first came out, there was even talk of a possible Oscar nomination for Rita Moreno. She's hilarious.

Dead End 1937 The Wild One 1953 Mean Streets 1973

Monday, August 30/31 James Cagney SUTS 5 a.m. James Cagney: Top of the World (1992).

It is a well established fact in Hollywood that Newman liked to work with Strother Martin, and that is why they were in so many movies together. The directors and the casting directors want to keep Paul happy. The same is true about John Wayne. Both worked with Martin 6 times.

Will never forget her character in “Monsieur Verdoux” that literally will never die.

MUPPET MOVIE— hiding in front of a billboard IRON GIANT — also hiding in front of a billboard

I think everything will be fine. TCM has always been niche, but they’ve survived for almost 30 years due to rabid fans like us (and w/out commercials!) That’s an incredible accomplishment. Forget about the AMC comparison. They changed their programming because they couldn’t keep up with TCM. At least that’s my theory.

Fatty and Mabel Adrift (1916) 🤗

I watched Hello Down There on AmazonPrime sometime last year. I don't remember the circumstances behind my choice. It was mildly entertaining.

Music Box 1989

The Russians Are Coming the Russians Are Coming 1966

The Family Way (1966)

Barnabas' mother Naomi also ended up dying in his arms after taking poison.😢 No wonder Barnabas was so screwed up after after he was released from his coffin!

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World State Fair National Lampoon's European Vacation

Leave It to Beaver Beaver gets stuck on the top of a billboard Good Neighbor Sam (1964) Darling (1965)

The issue here is the vehicle that the performers are in. So we're going by the date of the TV show or the movie, or whatever. And I think everyone's purpose on this website is to have fun and certainly everyone is welcome to participate and play. I always say-- The more the merrier!

FURY (1936)

Watched 7 FACES OF DR. LAO.....I actually quite like it. Tony Randall turns in a dignified turn as the Oriental Dr. Lao, who dispenses wisdom along with a bit of magic to a skeptical and disillusioned bunch of townspeople, easy pickings for a scoundrel for a guy like Stark (Arthur O'Connell plays him to perfection). Yet even Stark doesn't remain unaffected by Lao's presence. Some of the wisdom dished out can be painful....like Lao's insisting to Mrs. Cassin she will never marry, never have children, will live and die as if she had never even existed. She learns nothing from this and continues to see things how she perceives them, not how they really are. I have no doubt his prediction about her uninvolving future will come true. Interesting to see Barbara Eden in an early role, a far cry from blonde Jeannie. Still I think she and Ed would make a cute couple, if she only gives it a chance. It was quite interesting to see her 'seduction' by the God of Joy. Helped to loosen her up. The special effects may seem dated but I enjoy them for what they were at the time. I especially like that snake-like creature who somewhat resembled Stark. Also the nagging wife who gets turn into stone by Medusa. Dr. Lao restores the dignity of many folks in that town, his presence having a profound effect around everyone (except those two fools of Stark's who let loose the sea loch). Anyway I give it a 8/10. It's always nice to discover a cinematic gem now and then.

What they had was a great ability to communicate.