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  1. This is one of my favorite Bogart movies. I made a thread a long time ago asking the question "Is Queeg a unhinged paranoiac or just a quirky neurotic?" His performance is so good, it could be either way. I also think this is Van Johnson's best performance as the conflicted officer Maryk. Fred MacMurray also great as the weaselly Keefer. I agree that Robert Francis is not in the league of the rest of the cast and his romantic sub plot does bring the film down a bit.
    6 points
  2. The STAR TREK enterprise began its American voyages 55 years ago this coming evening. Two evenings earlier the iconic television series made its debut in its star's birth country.
    5 points
  3. Bump this old thread....I just went to the local historical museum and saw THIS: Obviously a student project, I thought it was so nice of the museum to display it since it has nothing to do with local history. I imagine that's her name written in Chinese under the English version. (the lights around her name blinked on/off) Glad there's at least one kid in town who knows & appreciates the fabulous Anna Mae Wong.
    5 points
  4. A salacious scene like this never happened in the film.
    5 points
  5. I just borrowed this from the library to see a few Lemmon films that have escaped me thus far. I pretty much only got halfway through each film, finding them pretty underwhelming. Kim Novak was great in THE NOTORIOUS LANDLADY, but I just couldn't get interested in it, it seemed pretty lackluster in the writing even though written by Larry Gelbart & Blake Edwards. I started PHFFFT! which seemed like the same cliché story as THE MARRYING KIND, showing a divorcing couples relationship through flashback, how they initially fell in love. It was the last Judy Holliday movie for me to see, so I just duped it to watch later. Hopefully it'll be better if I'm in a better mood. Last night was pt 2 of UNDER THE YUM YUM TREE, boy do I hate that title. It took me two evenings to get through this, but it was OK. Lemmon played a real cad for a change-a predatory landlord who rents apartments only to young pretty single girls. Ew. Carol Lynley & Dean Jones play a couple that move in, much to Lemmon's chagrin. I was very impressed with all performances, I couldn't take my eyes off Lynley-what a stunner. And I've NEVER seen Dean Jones as handsome or sexy, until now. Man, what a shame his career went so utterly Disney fluff, but guess everybody needs to work. Fun to see greats Paul Lynde & Imogene Coca in comedic supporting roles doing their best, only eliciting groans for the un-funny dated material. Coca's charactor was the only other DORCAS I've heard of save 7 Brides/Brothers! Jack Lemmon is a great comedian, although comes across as somewhat one-note in what I saw of this collection. Like all other actors/comedians, he's performance is more enjoyable with better material. No one sets the stage for a star performance like Billy Wilder.
    5 points
  6. ::SPOILERS AHEAD:: The Caine Mutiny (1954) I recently borrowed this film from the library. I am not a big fan of war movies, but I borrowed it for Humphrey Bogart and Fred MacMurray. Overall, I thought the film was good. I'll spare everyone from a major synopsis of the film as I feel that it is probably a fairly well known story. In a nutshell, the film is about the crew of "The Caine," a minesweeper (which I recognized as the 2-peg ship in the board game, Battleship) in the Pacific during WWII. It is post-Pearl Harbor. Bogart stars as Lieutenant Commander Queeg who replaces The Caine's much-loved Lieutenant Commander De Vriess (Tom Tully). Queeg is instantly despised by the crew, including Executive Officer Maryk (Van Johnson) and Communications Officer Keefer (Fred MacMurray). The only person who likes Queeg at first is Ensign Willie Keith (Robert Francis), because he seems "more military" than the very lackadaisical De Vriess. However, as the film progress, Queeg reveals himself to be overly obsessed with the most minute details and becomes overwhelmed at tense situations, while at the same time being hesitant to allow others to offer help or suggestions. Eventually, Queeg's ineffectiveness as a leader culminates with Maryk staging a mutiny and taking over control of The Caine. This leads to a court martial hearing, led by Jose Ferrer who handles Maryk's defense. I thought Bogart was fantastic playing Queeg. From what I'd heard about The Caine Mutiny and references to "Captain Queeg" that I'd heard over the years, I thought that Bogart would be completely tyrannical, mean and nasty and that the eventual trial (which I knew was in the film) would be his downfall. And while the "downfall" part turned out to be true, I was actually very sympathetic to Queeg. While he seemed bonkers, it was also obvious that this was a scarred man. This was a man who had seen a lot of violence and tragedy during his eight years in WWII. He was shell-shocked by the war. He shouldn't have been placed in charge of The Caine. Perhaps in lesser hands, Queeg would have come off as completely unsympathetic, but Bogart was able to imbue his portrayal of Queeg with a vulnerability. The viewer actually feels sorry for him--at least I did. I hadn't seen Van Johnson in this type of part before. I was impressed with his performance and thought he did a great job. I also liked Fred MacMurray's performance and thought that he did a good job flying under the radar as the true villain of the film. Throughout the film, Keefer's actions seem very subtle and casual; so it was very surprising when Jose Ferrer completely dresses him down during the ending scene. The real weak spot in this film was the casting of Robert Francis. From what I read, Columbia had discovered him and was trying to make him "a thing." Francis reminded me of Troy Donahue in terms of woodenness and just blah. However for me, I don't know what it is about Donahue, but I find him watchable. And it isn't his Ken Doll appearance either (to which I'm indifferent). There's just something about him. I can't explain it. But whatever it is that Donahue has, Francis does not. I was actually annoyed by the amount of screen time Francis has in this film. Then he has this incredibly irritating subplot involving his mommy issues and his girlfriend's reluctance to marry him because of said mommy issues. Willie's whole mother and relationship woes was dull and added absolutely nothing to the story. Frankly, I would have rather the film thrown Willie overboard so that we didn't have to hear about them and could see more of the Bogart-Johnson-MacMurray storylines. Overall though, I thought the film was excellent (save for Robert Francis and everything involving his character) and enjoyed watching it despite my usual lack of enthusiasm for war movies. Jose Ferrer was fantastic in the courtroom scenes and his big drunk scene at the end.
    5 points
  7. Yes, The Caine Mutiny would have been a better film with someone like Tony Perkins as Willie. Willie is actually the main character in the film, but it doesn't feel that way because Robert Francis just isn't good enough. And you didn't mention "May Wynn as May Wynn!"--who, like Gig Young and Anne Shirley, changed her stage name to the name of the character she played. Of course, May Wynn as May Wynn doesn't make much impression, either.
    4 points
  8. Did anybody see Elia Kazan's THE ARRANGEMENT? This one vies with Bob Fosse's ALL THAT JAZZ for self-indulgent, navel-gazing badness -- two creative men grappling with middle-aged angst, but THE ARRANGEMENT is definitely in a class by itself. Kirk Douglas is a successful ad man who hates his job. He's got all the perks of unfettered consumerism -- beautiful home, pool, servants, wife (a rheumy-eyed Deborah Kerr, who has a brief nude scene. The tushie is actually hers), and mistress (Faye Dunaway). Kirk has a nervous breakdown and tries to commit suicide. In addition, he's got to cope with the mental deterioration of his aging, tyrannical Greek/Turkish father, played with Anthony Quinn-like relish by the underrated Richard Boone, who sports a silver wig and dialogue along the lines of "You give me money!" and "Is taxi here yet?" Kazan directs in "Swinging Sixties" style, with some Fellini thrown in for good measure, if you can possibly imagine. Must be seen to be believed.
    4 points
  9. It's a different experience going to revivals and festivals vs. new releases with the general public. At the TCMFF, people clap during the opening credits. If it's a musical, they usually clap at the end of a song (like one does during a theatrical musical). The best response was when Joan Crawford slapped Ann Blyth in Mildred Pierce, the entire auditorium clapped. I was sitting directly behind Ms. Blyth at that screening.
    3 points
  10. I waited a week to gather my thoughts and marinate my response to the new look of TCM and what it means to me as a fan & viewer and what it means as to where we are today and where we are headed in the future. As a middle-aged millennial woman who spent a childhood of vhs video cassette tapes being borrowed from the library or local video store who remembers TCM from the beginning with Robert Osbourne and the old sets it is a culture shock because with every passing hear since he's been gone it seems the powers that be of TCM are drifting further away from the original format. When the Reframed series highlighting films with a politically correct angle of apologizing for old and outdated racial stereotypes was aired. I knew that we were headed for a new rebranding of safe spaces for grown adults who need to be coddled about the way things were at one time and told by certain hosts that yes we still air these films but you're going to be okay because we'll give you the context that we want you to know while you watch our channel it was bye bye to the old TCM, hello to the new TCM that airs some of the biggest films at a time slot when the old folks are still asleep and a 20 something millennial won't get their feelings hurt and cry on social media accounts in a corner made of their own feelings. My two cents : The world is changing regardless of politics and I'm sure we all know that movie theaters are going the way of video stores, now DVDs are all but obselete thanks to free streaming service platforms on tablets. I will continue to love and watch TCM as a fan & viewer but you might as well purchase your favorite films on DVD because of the changing nature of censorship today we won't have anything left to introduce to the new younger generation so they can be educated on the ills of yesterday while living in the present day. TCM is changing because the culture is changing. It's not the same cable channel it was when I was 8 years old in 1994 when the only way to see these films was to watch them on television or borrow them from the local library on video cassette. We have to accept that this is the hand we've all been dealt with and go on with our lives. Turn the station if you don't like the reception.
    3 points
  11. Yyyyeah. Think so. My favorite inaccurate poster is for the first American release of Studio Ghibli's masterpiece of animation from auteur Hayao Miyazaki, "Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind", dubbed for wide release as Warriors of the Wind (1983) by New World's Roger Corman: I'm guessing Roger must have fallen asleep halfway, and woken up while they were showing Clash of the Titans, Dune, and a He-Man rerun. 🤔
    3 points
  12. Tear Gas Squad (1940) - The most tear gas associated with this film was probably when the police were called in when the people who bought a movie ticket found out they were going to be watching a musical full of Irish singing and stereotypes rather than a crime film and began to riot.
    3 points
  13. Arnold, Kay--Barbara Stanwyck in Ladies of Leisure
    3 points
  14. I was around 8 when One Million Years BC came out. Like a lot of young boys I was really interested in dinosaurs so I told my dad this was a must see film. I also asked that he get me a film poster. He just blew me off and I never got a poster. It wasn't until years later that I understood mom was the one that vetoed the idea. Dinosaurs weren't the reason my dad and older brother wanted to see this film!
    3 points
  15. Here is the thing about creating lists: There are only so many films one could list as either their favorite films, or what they might consider to be the so-called “Greatest Films”, or most watched films. One way to create a bonafide “best of list” would be to create a list based on Genre’s. And for that type of list one could place their titles within categories like the following: Action Adventure Comedy (including Black Comedy) Crime and Gangster Drama Epics/Historical/Period Horror Musical Science Fiction War (including Anti-War films) Westerns And if one really wants to get into the weeds then they could expand on the above categories with Sub-Genre’s: Biographical Films Chick Flicks Courtroom Dramas Detective and Mystery Films Disaster Films Fantasy Films Film Noir Guy Films Melodramas (including Women’s, Weeper and or Tearjerkers) Road Films Romance Films Sports Films Superhero Films Supernatural Films Thriller-Suspense Films Zombie Films And then break it down a little further with the following categories: Animated Films British Films Other Foreign Films Children’s (including Kids, Family oriented films) Cult Films Documentary Films LGBTQ Films Serial Films Sexual-Erotic Films Silent Films Pick ten films for each category and you end up with A LOT OF films. Once you have compiled each list, one could then decide which film would be able to be classified as to a number ranking. #1 to #100 or so. Or a true TOP 10 for each category. Hard choices and this is where IMHO personal preferences comes into play. I may have 1968’s Ice Station Zebra listed as an action film and even though I know the film was not highly rated by the critics, it is a personal favorite of mine, (as it was with Howard Hughes). So probably that film makes it into my top ten. It really all comes down to what you feel about a film. And that is the way it should be. We can always aspire to select films based on the criteria of “Best” or “Greatest”, but I am not a film critic nor do I have a degree in Film studies. I am just a film fan and I have certain films I love more than others that often I watch more than I probably should.
    3 points
  16. I have a feeling you'll have the opportunity to declare new lows for TCM with each passing day.
    3 points
  17. Well I watched the film last night and I liked it What caught my eyes at the end was the name of Stanley Baker.He is the next to last name in the credits as 'the milkman', One of his first film credit.I like Baker so I fast forwarded the film twice: no Baker you needed to be a code breaker to find him! I checked everybody every vehicle..nothing.So I checked with IMDB. The UK release is 92 minutes vs the 83 minutes version we saw. Big difference ..Stanley and the plot holes are in these 9 minutes.,I guess Eddie did not know himself otherwise he would have not mention the plot holes in the film.10% of the film is missing.I always watched his intros and outros like many people here even if i have previously seen the film showed,He has more time to research them and more time to present them, Well nobody is perfect and he does a great job overall.At least with him we are certain not to hear the Leonard Maltin's film book of reviews(which i like),The book is abused by the evening host during the week I.E. lack of time in the intro is also a lack of time for research.
    3 points
  18. In the 1991 revival series --- which I LOVE --- Maggie Evans is an artist who also works at the Blue Whale, which is owned by her father Sam Evans, who is neither a painter nor an alcoholic as he was in the original series. As King Rat noted, she is having an affair with Roger Collins in the revival series. Maggie is also a psychic in the revival series. She conducts the séance to contact Sarah Collins --- which causes Victoria Winters to travel back in time. And, yes, it is Victoria (not Maggie) who resembles Josette in the revival series. Victoria also goes back in time in the original series , but in the original series the actor who plays Josette is played by the one who plays Maggie, while in the revival series the same actor who plays Victoria also plays Josette. The two characters interact in the revival ---- similar to the way Samantha and Serena (both played by Elizabeth Montgomery) interacted on BEWITCHED. The revival added the character of Daphne Collins, the daughter of Roger and sister of David. It is Daphne Collins, not Carolyn Stoddard, who is the girlfriend of Joe Haskell at the beginning of series. Daphne is also the first person that Barnabas turns into a vampire in the revival series. She is ultimately destroyed when Dr. Woodard drives a stake into her heart.
    3 points
  19. Don't worry. speedy. This very thing is probably comin' down the ol' TCM pipeline very very soon, too! For ME though, I'll be watin' for 'em to offer a deep dark ale that's sportin' THIS guy on its label... "Porter Hall"!
    3 points
  20. Until I read this post, I never realized how much I wanted TCM to start their own craft brewery line, so that we could have movie inspired beers. Stella Dallas Hazy IPA The Little Foxes Bitter Ale Brigadoon Scotch Ale The Third Man Vienna Lager
    3 points
  21. THE TRIP TO BOUNTIFUL (1985) Next: lots of beautiful people
    3 points
  22. Have you see the first adaptation of the story: Here Comes Mr. Jordan? This 1941 film stars Robert Montgomery and Evelyn Keyes, with Claude Rains as Mr. Jordan. James Mason is great in Heaven Can Wait (and many other films), but since you asked your question, Claude Rains does an excellent job in the same role. There are many differences in the story so it makes both films worth watching. PS: Cannon was married to Cary Grant but it didn't last long.
    3 points
  23. 3 Brit comedies I really like: headmaster Alastair Sim and headmistress Margaret Rutherford clash when their schools are combined in The Happiest Days of Your Life (and they're terrific) Ted Ray oversees a wacky staff as headmaster in Carry On Teacher Alastair Sim (again!) dons drag to become headmistress to The Belles of St. Trinian's
    3 points
  24. It could have been more exciting if he'd burst out, "...and that starts with "C", and that rhymes with "T", and that stands for "TROUBLE " ! "
    3 points
  25. I would go to Hollywood and revival theaters to see Bogart films like The Big Sleep, Casablanca and Dead Reckoning. As for a memorable experience: I went to Dead Reckoning with a girlfriend; When the driving scene where Bogie tells Liz Scott that he wishes he could shrink women so that he could put them in his pocket and then make them bigger when he had a use for them, the women in the audience booed, while the men clapped.
    2 points
  26. Gene Kelly Next: Started out as a stuntman
    2 points
  27. I guess ten seconds of cleavage is better than none.
    2 points
  28. She was asking him 'Is it a gun in your pocket ? or are you just happy to see me'?' I guess everything got deleted😉
    2 points
  29. Funny but I just re-looked at the photo I posted of Joan and asked myself "why is Joan wearing an orange for a broach?". It took me a second to realize it was an orange or lemon wedge on her drink!
    2 points
  30. "Sagittarius. I like Sagittarius, you can trust them." - Norma Desmond
    2 points
  31. The Rules of the Game 1939 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid 1969 Don't Look Now 1973
    2 points
  32. One thing about ROBERT FRANCIS -- he never really got a chance to be a better actor. If I remember rightly he died 66 years ago in a plane crash at age 24 or 25. I remember seeing THE CAINE MUTINY many moons ago; long before I had access to a computer or the IMDb and I wondered why I had not seen Robert Francis in other movies. I checked 'The World Almanac and Book of Facts'. Nothing on Robert Francis. This would've been in the late 1980s. Years later I found out he'd died in 1955 in a plane crash. I also had the same wonder about actor AL LETTIERI. I'd seen him in several early 1970s movies and then . . . nothing. Not until I could get online and look him up did I read that he'd been dead since October 1975. He was 47. And so it goes . . .
    2 points
  33. For me it's not about the new set or graphics. They're certainly not an improvement but I can live with them. What does bother me is Ben. I used to like him well enough but lately I'm getting a condescending, used car salesman vibe from him and it doesn't sit well.
    2 points
  34. Very good points, FXReyman. I think you're probably hitting the right nails on the heads. Potential new audiences don't know RO from Adam, so a little refreshing would seem to be in order. Here's where I think a lot of folks are displeased. Whereas in the past, the channel made changes that still kept viewers knowing they were watching a classic movie channel. Now everything seems to be scrapped in favor of some strange, frenetic pulse that thrusts the movies forward as if jet-propelled. If I just came across this channel at random, I think it would take me a long time to figure out that it was devoted to classic movies. Motion picture icons are still fairly knowable, yet not one seems to have been included in the graphics or overall design of the new look. If this is some kind of soft launch -- as restaurants often do -- before the big hoopla of a Grand Opening, why not tease us with some exciting new previews of what is to come. Just saying, "We're bringing the past into the present" is pretty downright sketchy. Attending a soft launch at this restaurant isn't really making me want to return later. Frankly, it appears to me to be poorly conceived and sloppy. And if this is the level of attention to detail that is coming, I wouldn't place too much confidence in whatever theses guys have to tell me about movies later on. Sure, I can tolerate the new look -- though I don't have to like it -- but if the channel begins drifting into sloppy execution and shallowly informed conversations, then I truly will be sad. Enough essay for now. Sorry.
    2 points
  35. Wow, very nice photo of Joan and one I can't recall seeing. Such style and class.
    2 points
  36. @37kitties 😃 “Only about 20 times.” ☺️ Ok, then. I’ve found a fellow fan. Awesome! Oh, wow - I’m sure seeing it on the big screen was an EXPERIENCE. 🤩 Aside from Warren Beatty (whom I already loved from Heaven Can Wait), the cast was filled with actors I’d either simply liked or had never paid attention to until this. I have a much deeper appreciation for all of them now, especially Michael J. Pollard. He was adorable - and I love how he goes from an almost entirely naive boy to a more knowing young man. By the time they make it to his dad, he’s like, “Dude. I’ve seen things.” Of course, he waivers a bit when his dad is so aggressive with him - but I thought that subtle shift in energy was really awesome. Speaking of which, DUB TAYLOR! This may be the biggest shining moment in his prolific “minor character actor” career, and it was so great to really see what he could do. (Same goes for Denver Pyle.) I think the casting of him and Pollard was brilliant - it may be the most realistic father / son casting I’ve ever seen. And I love how he seems so simple (and even dumb), and then it’s like - nope! ☺️ (Again, same goes for Denver Pyle as Frank Hamer.) I really think it was the challenge to his authority, in the form of the tattoo, that bothered him most - not that his son was riding with bank robbers. I can see why the film was critically disliked in its day. I found it off-putting in the beginning, too (although I’m SO glad I stuck with it!). I think it does an excellent job of making them seem truly despicable (selfish, warped, etc) at first. Then it gradually opens them up so that you genuinely care about them, see things from their perspective, and don’t want anything bad to happen to them - even though you know they wouldn’t reform if they had the chance (or, at least, Clyde wouldn’t). I mean, I almost want to be a part of their tight-knit little family! (Almost. ☺️) But if you can’t get past that first impression, plus the fact that they continually break the law - and then add in all the violence - I can see why it would be considered shocking or disturbing. (Also, most of the violence looks so fake now - but that final sequence REALLY holds up!) I actually have a low tolerance for brutality or graphic content in movies. But while this one was available on TCM (through Hulu Live), I played it three times - and watched that brutal ending (and all the bloodiness leading up to it) every single time. And I would do it again in a heartbeat. I think it says a lot about the movie that I want to go on this journey with them over and over again, even though I know how it all goes down. (Also - loved the music! Flatt & Scruggs!)
    2 points
  37. Olivia De Haviland ("Bolt the door, Mariah") Next: glasses
    2 points
  38. Eric is the most agreeable. I'm also more of a video guy than a theater guy. I'm a homer. Jack's comment to Eric [Edit - woops, I meant Bill] didn't seem mean-spirited. I took it as honest ribbing between buddies, of the kind I've dished out myself, as well as taken. You have to know somebody pretty well before you can talk like that to them, but I can understand better now why you feel that way.
    2 points
  39. Speaking of soaps, I was home yesterday and watched DOOL. Wow! Stuff is happening on that show. LOL. And there was a scene of Xander shirtless showing his hairy chest!!! (I guess he shaved it in the past). I may start watching again!!! On the other hand Young and Restless was deadly dull..........
    2 points
  40. I just watched it again via EPM's embed. I think you're being unfair to Jack in saying he is full of himself and pretentious. He is very confident in his opinions and he has drawn conclusions on many topics, some of which are interesting. People like that are often said to take themselves too seriously, but he is the central character. He interacts with all the others throughout the film and was called upon in that role to sort of spout off. One troubling moment was when he mentioned schizophrenia in the last third or so. I recalled his earlier mention of times in his life when was having problems with the police, as I think he put it. I wonder if he had episodes of mental illness that he chose not to relate directly. (He did mention finding it sometimes necessary to physically confront audience members whom he found distracting but I took that as bluster, similar to his talk about the women he's been with, but maybe he did get into serious altercations.) I enjoyed seeing it again. Hoping everyone is still with us and well.
    2 points
  41. DIABOLIQUE NICHOLAS NICKELBY (evil Wackford Squeers!) THE SANDPIPER GIRLS' DORMITORY MERRY ANDREW TOM BROWN'S SCHOOL DAYS A YANK AT ETON THE BROWNING VERSION and Dumbledore in HARRY POTTER
    2 points
  42. Hey, I like this. A sort of meander-where-ye-may option. Now I finally know that if I ever get up at 2am and have a sandwich I know where to go to share it. The idea that I'm having a sandwich, not the sandwich itself. And at any given minute of my life, I have a storehouse of innumerable useless things that come to mind. If I think of something particularly obtuse I'll know where to share. It may be good for a laugh. I doubt I'll be watching PLAN 9 FROM OUTER SPACE, but THE GIANT CLAW looks pretty good. When they do the remake I hope they'll call it CLAWS. It sounds so forbidding. I like the idea of sharing about personal relationships. If i ever get one I'll be sure to pass it on. The note about the Embarcadero is gnawing at me. I am notoriously incurious but this may be getting to me. I have always been interested in the year 1879. If I can wrest myself from debilitating inertia I may look it up. It may be just a wild goose chase but at least I'll be doing something. I am fond of chasing things. I'm hoping some day to catch something. Something good, I hope.
    2 points
  43. Ya know folks, I'm REALLY startin' to feel that TCM should film a little filler segment and run it intermittently between the moves they show, and in which Ben Mankiewicz sings the following lyrics right into the camera... ♪♪ We played them all the old films We thought that's why they came No one saw the movies We didn't look the same We said hello to Mildred Pierce She belongs to us But when we played 'em what they thought was a punk jingle It just caused a fuss But it's all right now We've learned our lesson well You see, you can't please everyone So you got to please yourself ♪♪ (...and of course followed by an apology to Ricky Nelson for stealin' most of his lyrics)
    2 points
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  46. Today (September 7th), is my 24th wedding anniversary. But we really have two: one where we were official married here in the USA in a very small US family setting, and the other on the 21st where we went to Italy and were married in her hometown where I was welcomed like Patton was in the film when he entered Italy. E.g. Many people out on their balconies throwing flowers and filling up the streets outside the 800 year old church.
    2 points
  47. Maureen McGovern? Adds new levels of meaning to that song, "The Morning After"...
    2 points
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