HGL3
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Thank you, Mongo, I was afraid I was mixed up on that one! My mind is clearer now...there are just so many more than I had ever imagined!
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I think the part that bothers me the most about the anti-christmas folks is their lack of percspective...I mean with so many other more important things to be concerned about why get your drawers in a bunch over the fact, as you point out, most folks in this country are inclined toward Christmas celebrations and what harm does it really do? When I was a kid I loved making Christmas decorations in art classes...it wasn't really a religious thing-it was just fun and colorful!
The emegence of antisemitism in the 20th century is a little more complicated-the seeds were sown long ago in Europe. But you are right that the passing away of the Judeau-Christian "conscience" allowed unspeakable things to be unleashed in our time. Anitsemitism wasn't new but it certainly took on a new and awful manifestation.
Well, have a great week! I am on my way out west to see the cattle back home.
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Yes indeed The Other was a wonderfully frightening film and Uta Hagen was wonderful. I wish I could have seen her in the original production of "Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe" The twins were indeed remarkable.
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Touche! Have a great day! That really was a nice way to bring me back to level ground. Really I did not mean to offend! There are just so many interesting people and ideas...seriously thankyou for sharing yours!
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Thank you! When you get to my age (I can actually remember Helen Hayes as "relatively" young woman-and Eleanor Roosevelt appearing on the old Tonight show!)) it is harder and harder to keep things straight in my head. Have a great day!
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Matt-sorry-I didn't mean to hit a nerve-I just meant dedicating so much of his airtime to his Christmas Campaign was absurd...and while I agree the ACLU sure seems to pick some nit-picking issues they also support the rights of, The Klan, Neo-Nazis to demonstrate and to keep Rush Limbaugh's medical records private from over-zealous prosecutors in Florida---who must be democrats because they wouldn't pick on Rush if he was one of their buddies. Political corruption and bias is everywhere and no side has clean, or less dirty, hands. I don't know if you are old enought to remember the Vietnam era but this nation has been divided for years and simply has become more and more so...I don't like being dominated by Republican or Democrat elites and I don't want to be forced to bow down to ayatollahs of any kind-moslem, christian or jew. I don't see why I, or my children or grandchildren, have to waste our time, money and energy celebrating any religious holidays at school or work or at the courthouse...that is for the home and church. As for your dismissive attitude to the fact that the contemporary campaign to "Save" Christmas has its roots in early 20th century anti-semitism...I believe the first step to the next holocaust is to forget and ignore what led up the previous one and all the genocides before and since. The older you become the more you will come to understand the evil that dwells in the hearts of men.
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Brain **** here...the man who played Danno on Hawaii 5-0 is the son of Helen Hayes...I think his last name is McCarthur.
Ashley Judd daughter of Naomi...or is it Winona...hmmm can't keep ny Judds straight...Gwenyth Paltrow daughter of Blythe Danner and will grow up to look like her...Miranda Richardson daughter of Vanessa Redgrave and Tony Richardson...Vanessa daughter of Michael Redgrave sister of Lynn...Haley Mills daughter of John Mills...Drew Barrymore grandaughter of John Barrymore and there grand niece of Ethel and Lionel...John Ritter was son of Tex Ritter...Candice Bergan was daughter of Edgar Bergan...Mia Farrow is daughter of Maureen Ohara...Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estavez are sons of Martin Sheen...then of course there are all the Caradines grandfather, sons and grandsons...and all the Baldwin brothers...Shirley MacClaine and Warren Beatty are siblings...forgive misspellings and if I have conflated or confused some forgive me...
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The Manchurian Candidate should NEVER have been remade...as much as I love the actors in the newer version the whole thing just doesn't have the same impact as the original. The context of the original: an America just coming out the McCarthy red scare period and still trying to hold desperately to the fiction that America was a moral nation with high political ideals. The whole idea of the film was truly frightening to the naive public at the time. The more recent version actually shows what many of us already believe our government and politicians are doing or capable of doing. Therefore the film was not shocking or suspenseful. I think perhaps many times when they remake a film they should go ahead and steal some of the plot, characters and story but put a different title on it...but as someone else noted the use of the title is a gimmick to trick us into spending money on seeing the inferior product...
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Sunset Boulevard-Norma Desmond would agree the silents were better films..."Talk, talk, talk..." she says.
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The point IS can NEVER be remade. Meaning no matter how hard they work or talented they are the work will simply not be duplicated in a satisfactory manner. Films that are locked in a particular time, place and mentality defies reproduction. "The Women" is a perfect example-they don't make women, marriages or actresses like that anymore. Hollywood has been making and remaking stories throughout its history some improve over time others don't. "An Affair to Remember" and "A Star is Born" come to mind...but there are hundreds first rate films that were remakes of older material...research it and see.
There are qualities that todays actors have that the old stars lack. The leading actors of any decade have their own good qualities and limitations. Fans of Sarah Bernhardt thought she was the greatest but when a much more "realistic" actress like Eleanora Dusa came along many thought she was much better than Bernhardt. They would often be featured in different productions of the same play in the same cities during the same theatre seasons. It isn't that one was really better it just was that each had different qualities.
It isn't necessary to despise the new in order to appreciate the old. The great thing about fil-unlike the theatre-is that the old and new can live and be appreciated in every decade. Betty Davis had very high regard for Meryl Streep.
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Actually Tammy was the president of a LOCAL chapter of NOW (L.A. I think...) not THE national president of NOW.
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Tammy Bruce? The Lesbian for Life babe? nes pas? She is quite an interesting speaker and thinker. Far more insightful than Ann Coulter but far less interesting than Camille Paglia. Bill O'Reilly has only one agenda....Bill O'Reilly. Really his campaign to save Christmas was the most bizarre thing I've seen in years...and that whole "Save Christmas" obsession that the right wing zanies were on is just a rehash of Henry Ford's Jew hating campaign of the 20 and 30s. Actually Jon Stewart is a more relaiable source for news than most of what is on cable.
Something funny NPR reporter Libby Lewis was reporting on the investigation of Louis Libbey...hmmmm.
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Oh, and more recently, River Phoenix.
Leonardo DiCaprio in "What's Eating Gilbert Grape"
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Brandon DeWilde
Ron Howard
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"All About Eve"
"The Apartment"
"The Days of Wine and Roses"
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Wow! What a list, some of which I am familiar with and many not...are most of the films you listed relatively easily available? Actually the only films that I am really familiar with are those by Eisenstein...where do you find these others? As I have said in other posts I have no cable or satellite so maybe I could put the VHS/DVD to work and an exploration of Russian cinema might be just the ticket. Thank you for the idea.
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Rusty,
My mom and dad took me to see "Gone With the Wind" when they re-released it for the centennial of the Civil War (in 1961) It was the first time I saw it and when Bonnie Blue Butler was killed by her pony I was absolutely traumatized! Every time I saw it after that I had to get up and leave the theatre until the scene was over! I suppose I was almost 30 before I could sit through the scene...Someone brought up "Sullivan's Travels" and that is a wonderful film!
You also mentioned Sergio Leone and I really didn't like his movies as a teen ager but I have come to really enjoy them as an adult. I especially love "Once Upon a Time in the West" since they have released it in its complete form.
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You guys! What wonderful and interesting movies you have mentioned! For me I stumbled on a movie, that for some reason or another, and I really can't explain why, really touched a nerve with me. It was called "Susan and God" with Joan Crawford. I saw it the first time on TCM and have watched it everytime I saw it was going to play. I don't know if it's the acting, the script by Anita Loos or George Cukor's direction but it really captures me.
I am unsure how many times I have seen "All About Eve" but it has a similar impact...and "Dinner at Eight" as well. I was also mesmerized by Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" which is now old enough to border on a classic film! It sure hurts getting old! I actually saw Hitchcock's "The Birds" in a theatre when it first came out! And "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane" and "Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte"...sigh.
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The fate of TCM---the original thread is important. I have stopped subscribing to cable and satellite services and no longer have a TV. The reason-the only reason- I had it was to watch TCM and PBS. Now that TCM has become more and more like AMC, and probably will have commercials any day now, I decided it wasn't worth the price of admission. Now that PBS has become a propaganda arm of the Republican party (and NPR has been castrated by fear of the Christian right wing) I find it easier to do without TV and radio. I shall only have distant memories of the classic films that younger generations will know nothing of...
As for the Oscars...who cares...John Stewart IS a member of the Screen Actors Guild and actually has been in a few films (albeit awful ones! Death to Smoochie-yikes!) And he will do a great job hosting the Oscars. What can you say about an industry where Jim Carey and Adam Sandler can waste hours and hours of film and great actors can't get a decent film every ten years. The meaninglessness and vacuousness of the Oscars is only a tip of the iceberg! THE END IS NEAR!!! Thank God!
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I understand your impatience with remakes. However this is nothing new. I don't mind them if they actually improve on the original. But rarely do they actually improve. Most of the recent remakes are of mindless movies to start with...but if they try to remake "All About Eve" or "The Apartment" or "The Days of Wine and Roses" I would be OUTRAGED! They simply can't improve upon perfection!
Christian and Jewish Holiday Movies
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FredCDobbs: you said-
"What made me think of this is the upcoming movie ?I Remember Mama?. I suggest that it be shown in early to mid-December each year as Hanukkah-holiday type movie."
I hope you meant this should be shown at Chanuka because it is a family film-not because the family is Jewish...they are Norwegian and not Jewish...back in the dark ages I actually stage managed a production of the play.
A "Christmassy" film that might be of interst is "O. Henry's Full House" which is based on three of O. Henry's short stories including "The Gift of the Magi" about a poor young couple sacrificing what they prize most to buy a present for each other. She cuts and sells her beautiful long hair to get him a fob for his watch, and he pawns his watch to get her tortoise shell combs for her beautiful long hair...very sweet story...the cast is good too!
"The Clarion Call"
Directed by: Henry Hathaway
Dale Robertson -Barney Woods
Richard Widmark-Johnny Kernan
"The Ransom of Red Chief
Directed by: Howard Hawks
Lee Aaker-J. B. Dorset aka Red Chief
Fred Allen-Sam 'Slick' Brown
Oscar Levant-Bill Peoria
"The Gift of the Magi"
Directed by: Henry King
Jeanne Crain-Della
Farley Granger-Jim
"The Cop and the Anthem"
Directed by: Henry Koster
Charles Laughton-Soapy
Marilyn Monroe-Streetwalker
David Wayne-Horace
"The Last Leaf"
Directed by: Jean Negulesco
Anne Baxter-Joanna Goodwin
Jean Peters-Susan Goodwin
Gregory Ratoff-Behrman
The roles are all relatively small but interesting to see the actors doing something "different"