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CineSage_jr

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  1. TCM shows bastardized versions of movies. I assume its ok with robert osborne to show a version of a movie that the author does/did not approve. Its unethical & gives legitimacy to the practice of creating bastardized versions. I'll name a few,

    She Played With Fire is a bastardized version of Fortune is a Woman. The title is absurd because the "she" Arlene Dahl has nothing to do with the fire. I mean while this may be a trivial thing to TCM it is not trivial to the authors. There are prints in existence with the correct title & editing.

    The Black Book is a bastardized version of Reign of Terror.

    The original title of Pickup Alley is Interpol.

    The original title of Gypsy Girl is Sky West & Crooked.

    The original title of Blood on Satan's Claw is Satan's Skin.

    When artists create a movie the title is important. Many times the title is the same as the novel on which it is based. People who change the title are not included in the creative process.

    October Man is 110min. TCM bastardized version is 95 min. The film editor of October Man did not edit the 95 min. version.

    Curse of the Demon is a bastardized version of Night of the Demon & the 81min. cut is not edited by the film editor.

    As long as nobody says anything then the abuse of artists rights is going to continue......I only named a few but there are many many more titles.......... perhaps you guys'd care to name some.....

     

    TCM isn't responsible for the calumnies you enumerate, the films' copyright-holders are. Studios re-cut their films all the time; just because prints survive of some of the bowdlerized titles doesn't mean that those materials are available, in good shape, and the the copyrights on the earlier versions are still in effect (this is something particularly common in the case of British films re-worked and re-titled by their American distributors).

     

    I'd certainly like to see the full-length 2001, THINGS TO COME, TRANSATLANTIC TUNNEL, THE FOUR FEATHERS, CAESAR AND CLEOPATRA, FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE, THE IMMORTAL BATTALION and countless others, but that simply may no longer be possible. TCM does the best it can with finite resources (yes, in some cases they may need to be told that there's a better version to be found out there...somewhere, but I suspect that that's the case in a small minority of films).

     

     

     

    +All this reminds me of a quote from the film "The Snake Pit"

     

    Celia Sommerville: And we're so crowded already. I just don't know where it's all gonna end!

     

    Virginia Stuart Cunningham: I'll tell you where it's gonna end, Miss Somerville... When there are more sick ones than well ones, the sick ones will lock the well ones up.

     

    Sound Familiar?+

     

    And now you know why there is no medical definition of insanity.

  2. Bronxgirl, you don't have to worry about thinking of Addison in the throes of passion. He's only passionate about himself. In fact, my take on it is that Addison DeWitt is as passionate about women as Waldo Lydecker was.

     

    George Sanders was a wonderful actor, but one thing he could never have played convincingly was a gay man. He also played Waldo Lydecker in a 1960s Fox Hour of Stars remake of LAURA, and brought the sort of satyr's masculinity to the part that the homosexual Webb never could. One of the reasons I've never liked the film is the idea that Clifton Webb's Lydecker could be obsessed with any woman.

  3. Haha!!! I'm sure RO has only the loftiest morals, but what 75-year-old man wouldn't enjoy an evening's banter with an attractive 20-something???

     

    Proper decorum will be maintained at all times; McGowan will be thirty-five in September, and thoroughly appropriate company for the likes of Bob Osborne (and even better company for the likes of me).

  4. Yeah, I remember the view phone. I think it was at the Bell System exhibit. The problem back in those days was that they couldn't figure out how to send a TV picture over the narrow-band telephone lines, so that picture phone exhibit used high-band lines, which were not installed anywhere where they could be used by companies or average people. It took decades for the computer geeks to figure out how to do it on a regular telephone line. (of course you already know that, but I'm telling this story for the young folks)

     

    You still can't, if you want a full-motion, analogue picture -- which is all they really had or understood back then -- because you can squeeze only so much water through the hose.

     

    I think I stil have my special invitation-only ticket to the Bell Telephone pavilion's April, 1964, preview around somewhere. Maybe the exhibit should've been broken up into pieces by the Justice Department, just like the company.

  5. That describes one of the last scenes in MGM's THE SEARCH (1948), starring Montgomery Clift, Jarmila Novotna, Wendell Corey, Aleen MacMahon and Ivan Jandl as the little boy, Karel.

     

    The film has a wonderfully semi-documentary feel, obviously influenced by the then-new Italian Neo-realist movement; it was also one of the first "A" pictures directed by the great Fred Zinnemann.

  6. Unhappy with the various drafts of the GWTW screenplay he'd gotten from his many writers, David Selznick gave them all to Hecht, whom he trusted implicitly, hoping that Hecht would agree to take a crack at yet another draft.

     

    After reading them all, Hecht came back to Selznick and told him that he was crazy to want to put more money into more scripts, because the very first one he'd commissioned, the adaptation by Sidney Howard, was superb and needed virtually no revision.

     

    Selznick took his advice and filmed what Howard had written, and it's Howard's name, and only his, that appears in the film's Main Title credits.

  7. This from today's New York Times:

     

    March 5, 2008, 7:22 pm

     

    An Actor?s Diagnosis May Bring Attention to a Neglected Cancer

     

    Actor Patrick Swayze, 55, star of the 1987 hit movie ?Dirty Dancing,? has been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, according to a statement issued on Wednesday by his publicist. Although tabloid reports claimed Mr. Swayze has terminal cancer, the statement said those reports were not correct.

     

    Patrick Swayze (Mario Anzuoni/Reuters)According to the statement, released to several media outlets, Mr. Swayze?s physician Dr. George Fisher said, ?Patrick has a very limited amount of disease and he appears to be responding well to treatment thus far. All of the reports stating the time frame of his prognosis and his physical side effects are absolutely untrue. We are considerably more optimistic.?

     

    Pancreatic cancer will claim the lives of nearly 35,000 people in the U.S. this year, according to the American Cancer Society. It is almost always fatal, with a five-year survival rate of just 5 percent, according to the National Cancer Institute.

     

    Opera great Luciano Pavarotti and actor Michael Landon both died of pancreatic cancer. The disease has also killed several family members of former President Jimmy Carter, as reported last year in The Times.

     

    But despite striking the famous, the disease gets comparatively less attention than other cancers. Pancreatic cancer research is funded at far lower levels than other forms of cancer. Although nearly as many people die of pancreatic cancer as breast cancer, funding from the National Cancer Institute amounts to just 15 percent of the funding for breast cancer, according to the Web site pancreatica.org.

     

    Pancreatic cancer is so deadly because it is difficult to detect, early to metastasize and resistant to most treatments.

  8. You've got it backward. The Zapruder film shows clearly that what got splattered in the back of the limousine in Dallas was a French

    melon. JFK's still alive and living happily in Antibes.

  9. Speaking of clocks, IMDb says there are 31 individual shots of clocks in the movie. No wonder the film felt like a looming countdown.

     

    There're lots of shots of clocks in HIGH NOON (not coincidentally, also directed by the great Fred Zinnemann. In fact the latter film owes a great deal to Zinnemann's earlier effort); I've never read of anyone complaining that it's indicative that the Gary Cooper Western is dull or too much of a "countdown" (though it certainly is a countdown).

     

     

    The only other time I've seen (Lonsdale) was as Hugo Drax in Moonraker (1979) and there again I thought there was natural subtlety to his perfomance. I hope to eventually see more of his work

     

    You didn't see Spielberg's MUNICH (a film I detested, I must admit), in which Lonsdale plays the old Frenchman who's the source of the Israeli hit-team's intelligence as to where to find the terrorists they're charged with assassinating?

  10. You should be ashamed of yourself for spreading unfounded (or poorly-founded) rumors based on what you read in, of all places, the New York Post, the flagship of Rupert Murdoch's trash-peddling newspaper and TV empire.

     

    In fact, Swayze's doctors have said that the tumor on his pancreas (normally a very virulent form of cancer) is localized and quite treatable. They think Swayze's condition has a very favorable prognosis.

     

    Does this mean that the doctors are right? No; medical science isn't perfect, and patients and their illnesses frequently confound the best experts and available tests. But the point is that the sensationalism of outlets like the New York Post should never be taken as authoritative, or quoted without the caveat of considering its source.

     

    Swayze won't be dead until he's dead; that very well may be decades from now, and I'm happy to report that the Post's wishful thinking won't hasten the day.

  11. You've just brought up exactly why any thoughtful person should hate DVDs and Turner Classic Movies.

     

    Most of the films available on disc and shown by TCM never have dirt or scratches on the prints, and so don't seem old at all.

     

    This is patently unfair; it robs us of the pleasure of looking through a dirty, clouded window on a murky world gone by.

     

    Give us more scratches and dirt, or we'll take our business elsewhere.

  12. I don't know what they have to say,

    it makes no difference anyway -

    whatever it is, I'm against it!

    No matter what it is or who commenced it,

    I'm against it!

     

    Your proposition may be good,

    but let's have one thing understood -

    whatever it is, I'm against it!

    And even when you've changed it or condensed it,

    I'm against it!

     

    I'm opposed to it.

    On general principles I'm opposed to it.

     

    For months before my son was born,

    I used to yell from night to morn -

    "Whatever it is, I'm against it!"

    And I've kept yelling since I first commenced it,

    "I'm against it!"

     

    -- Prof. Quincy Adams Wagstaff (Groucho Marx) in HORSE FEATHERS (song by Bert Kalmar & Harry Ruby)

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