Tikisoo
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>Dear Pompous A$$e$: I'm sorry that I tried to participate in your little group. I love old movies, was looking for like minded people, apparently I am barking up the wrong tree. Apologies for interrupting yer group.
Amazing anyone would allow an internet group to upset them enough to lash back.
BB, I'm sure you're an intelligent person with valid opinions, as are most on this forum. But you have to think of internet forums the same way you view high school or a new office environment: there are "nice" people, bullies, pot-stir-ers, all sorts. And you cannot tell when someone is kidding or just showing off because we're not face-to-face. The entire element of "personal relationships" is missing.
Sure, I'm often miffed by what someone may post in response to my post, but I don't take it to heart. Instead, I try to figure out how to explain my point better. And sometimes, I'm just plain wrong or worse, boring.
When responding to a message board or email, it's always best to wait a day or two before spouting off. You often realize how little it matters.
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When I said I didn't care for Kazan's films, a Cinephile friend recommended I get the very large ELIA KAZAN COLLECTION from the library.
I was amazed to find favorites FACE IN THE CROWD and TREE GROWS IN BROOKLYN contained in it, I wasn't aware his titles are so diverse. After viewing several of the disks I realized how unusual & great his films are and I really only disliked WATERFRONT.
Anyway, within this set is a Martin Scorsese film about Kazan. That was very interesting too. I also recall TCM promoting a Kazan biography in the last few years. I bet it's an interesting read.
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This thread intrigued me so I got a copy of this out of the library-THANK YOU-it was a real treasure!
I was amazed by Elizabeth Hartman, I only knew her as the blind girl in PATCH OF BLUE. She was adorable in her role, especially as a go-go dancer.
And so fun to see Julie Harris in a more aggressive adult role instead of her typical weak wallflower type roles. She was much prettier than usually depicted.
What a time capsule of fashions and locales. I'm sure when it was made, not a thought went into it. But now so much of that is gone in NYC. The soft porn shops of Times Sq, department stores containing simple racks of clothing (that you can actually see over) and especially the small independent record stores.
Now, everything's a chain. Oh how I'd love to rummage through one of those record stores and shoot the breeze with knowledgeable staff.
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I started out on a Mac SE-30 in 1993 and only used a Windows computer once, on a free lance job and found it incredibly difficult & frustrating.
Many people today have come over to the "dark side" using Macs and everyone says it's so easy, they'll never go back.
Including my astrophysicist brother (a REAL rocket scientist) who works & programs in Linux.
If you have a tough time with Windows (as I did) Linux requires even more dedication to understand. If you're like most people, you just want to turn the key & drive instead of knowing how the engine actually works. Mac allows you to do that.
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>They call the Red Carpet rental company they do business with, tell them what they want and pay the bill for the work done.
Very interesting post lz.
This just reinforces my theory that US manufacturing has been replaced by the "specialty niche" business.
When you watch older movies, like say MIRACLE ON 34th ST, you'll see Macy's is a self contained business with it's own payroll, HR dept, nurse on staff, etc.
Nowadays, everything is subcontracted out to companies who "specialize" in just one specific thing.
What a disconnect.
Work I've done in Syracuse NY is paid by check from a payroll company 60 miles away and processed by a firm in Idaho.
Many of your local Public Works Dept have done away with maintaining their own trucks and hire out for waste pick up, another for asphalt repair and another for tree maintenance. No more well rounded employees that "do-it-all".
Amazing- the "Red Carpet Rental Company".
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Ok, I just finished THEY DIED WITH THEIR BOOTS ON. Although I enjoyed the humor & romance in it (swoon) it still wasn't the "light" comedy I'm looking to see Flynn do. Apparently, there just aren't any really successful films out there of Flynn in a romantic comedy.
I was braced to see lots of horses falling in battle, but I wasn't overly grossed out. The long shot of THREE very large groups of horsemen galloping over the hills was particularly impressive.
I did put the close up shot of Flynn on horseback charging in slow motion. I was amazed they'd risk him in what I consider a dangerous shot, although I'm positive the horse was running on a groomed track.
What skeezed me out was seeing such a well behaved horse (and too many others) in double rein bits. These bits are used to give "fine" cues to a horse, like "take one smaller step, then jump and land on the opposite leading foot"
A bit like this is extremely severe to the horse's mouth and should not be used to simply gallop forward.
That said, Flynn held his hand very steadily-too tightly-but very steadily. He was a much better rider than John Wayne or Gary Cooper, but anyone with experience sailing or skiing is generally more natural on a horse, since they use the same balance principles.
CAPTAIN BLOOD is next. I'm afraid to see THAT FORSYTE WOMAN
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Interesting post skimpole....
My first thought was the unforgettable Raquel Welch as Lust in BEDAZZLED '67. There's a few others I recall depicted in the movie, such as Gluttony, Envy & Sloth-not sure if they're all in there. (oops I see it was already mentioned)
Would A CHRISTMAS CAROL have been better with "7 Sins" depicted rather than "Ignorance" & "Want"?
And who could forget this guy?
He was so angry, they had to put WRATH in the title.
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How these painters could create backrounds that are so perfect, they fool the eye even when projected as huge images on a screen is beyond my comprehension.
So, I'll ask again...
>Does anyone know the size of the original paintings?
>Does anyone know if any special techniques were used to make them look more "real"?
>Does painting on glass offer a certain luminosity uniting the flat image with the exposed film?
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I saw a fantastic exhibit on the Art of Animation many years ago that featured backround paintings from classic cartoons. These original paintings were smaller than an 8.5x11 sheet of paper.
I do not understand how something this small can translate to a huge image on the screen in a movie theater. At least in cartoons, they are impressionistic, not too realistic.
The paintings used in live action films are astounding.
Generally, I don't even "see" them and just accept them along with the story. I often have to paint landscapes and murals in my work and find it incredibly difficult.
How these painters could create backrounds that are so perfect, they fool the eye even when projected as huge images on a screen is beyond my comprehension.
Does anyone know the size of the original paintings? Does anyone know if any special techniques were used to make them look more "real"? Does painting on glass offer a certain luminosity uniting the flat image with the exposed film?
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>Whenever I hear an opera singer attempt a popular song, I don't think it works because the opera style in which the singer is trained is so different from the popular style that the particular song requires.
That's crazy. Any "trained" voice is just that-trained to sing well. I've known several opera students and they sing everything well-they've studied music and understand the principles well enough to sing any style.
Rod Stewart has an amazingly limited voice. But his talent as a high energy performer generally overcomes the voice limitations, coming across even in recordings.
There is zero energy or unique style in his "standard" recordings which is why they fail for me. He's added nothing to the library.
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Thanks RMeingast....very interesting read, from what I could see.
Page disappeared after 2 minutes and would not come back. I have a lot of firewalls on my computer (I can't view Facebook or google either, but no great loss there)
I would have liked reading these Reel History columns, though.
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Our local indie store Soundgarden has a used copy of THE SEA HAWK for $3.99. PM me if anyone wants me to pick it up.
(Used "classic" DVDs like SAW2 or LORD OF THE RINGS are $9.99- no one wants "old B&W crap")
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I hear you misswonderly, you prefer more creative interaction than just a one word answer.
>Someone will start a thread here titled, say "Actresses with the Frizziest Hair", and away we'll go
I make lists because I'm old, did too many drugs in my youth and easily forget what I'm supposed to do tomorrow.
The threads that give me the heebie jeebies are the ones where someone asks, "What actress has the frizziest hair?" and every post will be THEIRS, just adding more of their own opinion. If someone pipes up with an addition or new example, their post is ignored.
It's like a soapbox, not an interactive conversation.
(Ok I'm usually the one ignored-sensitive, eh?)
But yeas, at BEST on this board someone will say, "Oh, if you liked THAT, you should see THIS" I've discovered a heck of a lot of great movies due to opinions expressed on this board.
And if they elaborate, such as, "it was great-heads exploded and beating hearts ripped out of their chests..." I know it's not for me. So yes, a little more than just a list can be oh so helpful.
Also, when there's a discussion of a movie I've already seen, often people bring up points that never occurred to me, or that I didn't pick up on. The insight on this board can be amazing. Showing off in an interactive, positive way.
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>Schmaltz in this kind of package is wonderful.
This is why I enjoy these boards....there's actually sentimental saps (like myself) out there, unafraid to admit it.
Frankly, I'm sick & tired of seeing the glazed bored expressions people wear these days, what ever happened to celebrating life?
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I just got back from seeing a theater presentation of 35mm classic cartoons in an historic theater. (terrific!) One of them was the 1949 Bugs Bunny RABBIT HOOD and when Robin Hood finally shows up at the end it's a live action shot of Errol Flynn! I thought to myself "...of course....Robin Hood was a WB film too"
I love this sort of oddball craziness in WB cartoons, the inside joke & surprise of "reality" in a cartoon. (I also recall a MGM Droopy cartoon where he ends up in a Mexican ****'s lap)
I remember (from childhood, eons ago) a WB cartoon with Bugs & Yosemite Sam where Bugs traps Sam in a stove. When Bugs opens the door to check on Sam it's a live action shot of a raucous wild west saloon!
Anyone know the cartoon name and what movie the saloon shot is taken from?
Any other examples of WB live action within WB cartoons?
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I'm bracing for a flaming....just wondered if I'm the only one?
There's a fun Saturday night horror movie show on ME-TV, "Svengoolie" that shows pretty exclusively Universal horror films. As a weekly viewer I've noticed Universal horror films aren't really very good-formulaic with long convoluted plots that wrap up in the last 5 minutes. The same story, the same sets, etc.
I've also recently attended several 35mm screenings of early Universal horror like FRANKENSTEIN, DRACULA & THE MUMMY which were more interesting. But aside from "looking good" with lighting and sets, they all contained slow plodding sequences I found actually boring.
That said, Universal's comedy horror like Abbott & Costello, MUNSTER GO HOME and (somewhat comedy) THE INVISIBLE MAN seem to entertain and flow just a bit better, especially if seen in a theater with an audience.
I realize Universal's horror movies have been extremely popular for several decades. Does the great creativity of the make up coupled with consistently outstanding acting enough to carry a so-so story for most?
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>I found out later on all of the DVDs I recorded can't play on any of the DVD drives in the house because I never finalized any of them. And I can't do that with a different machine.
Oy I found that out the hard way too. Nothing I recorded on my Toshiba will play on my BluRay player.
Luckily, I still have the recorder, I just don't use it to "play" through, so I can still finalize old recordings.
Toshiba seems like the only company still making reasonably priced recorders. Wonder if you buy the same brand as you had originally recorded on, you could finalize your older recorded DVDs?
I'd certainly give it a shot.
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The wonderful Rose Marie
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>In real life, a sheriffs office wouldn't hire this guy
Oh, I am in contact with a fair number of cops and see an awful lot of Barney Fifes. I recall a story about MrTiki's academy where a cadet pulled the trigger while the gun was still in his holster. Don't know if he made it to graduation, though.
>Hah, I'm remembering that, too! ..."Moe's number is 555-7186," and they easily dial it.
It certainly was a lot easier to remember numbers when they were only 5 digits. My number is "GRanite 98961"
My Mom & I stayed at the Hotel Pennsylvania in NYC and she looked at the phone and said, "Wow the number here really IS Pennsylvania 65000!" and we spontaneously jumped up and danced!
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>Wow, this thread is getting twisted into some bizarre black hole of reality that is beginning to have no connection
Haha, may I add to it? I want to go back to the embroidery....
In the past, embroidery was the first thing taught to young girls. It was to teach good sewing skills (for mending, sewing) that would be expected of you as a good wife & mother. Samplers were exhibited throughout the house to advertise this to others.
Catherine is not mending or sewing, but creating decorative crewel works, pretty frivolous busywork-not anything of practicality. So the embroidery that she does throughout the story illustrates that she is honing her "skills" for marriage in a symbolic fashion. (servants mend and she has the means to buy clothing)
Could her snipping the thread symbolize her realization of the pointlessness of "training to be good wife & mother" to her? Saying it was her "last one" symbolize the changing of her goal from love and marriage to one of quiet solitude?
I also like the interpretation of "snipping her life". That's what makes movies like this one great- visual symbolism.
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>I have a feeling that even if I weren't that type woman that you're referring to, I totally would have been the uncouth woman hanging with all the men drinking, telling off color jokes, arguing and going to the fights.
If you did those sorts of things you WOULD be labeled as that "type" of woman. Men would enjoy your presence, but none would dare take you seriously or marry you.
This definition of "lady" is why Dorian Gray couldn't marry Sybil Vane-not only an actress, but loose to boot!
And these social morals are also the reason Scarlett O'Hara was reviled by all the nice ladies of Atlanta just for driving her own buckboard. But all the barriers Scarlett broke is the reason why we love her in our modern age, we see those past social morays as silly shackles.
My opinion is we have just come way too far-there ARE no social morays left-for men nor women!
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The problem that I see is that our society seems to be geared towards a child's world rather than children learning to behave in an adult's world.
Has anyone noticed the droopy pants, oversized shirts and worse _pajamas_ favored by 18-30 year olds making them appear as "giant toddlers"? How about the trend towards "baby" names like Snoop Dog, Buggy, Booboo, HomeyBoy along wif slurry "baby talk". And how many of us complain the theaters are full of movies geared to teen boys?
It used to be that kids aspired to be "grown up" because grown ups had the power to make decisions and hopefully create a decent life for themselves. Now, there is no reason to grow up since the world is geared to neverending childhood. We're now in the 3rd generation of people who think it's the government's job to support them, like perpetual infants.
Kids in older movies & sitcoms lived in an adult world, even those centered around child charactors like Andy Hardy or The Beaver. The goal was to get your own car, learn to talk to girls, get out of knickerbockers in short- GROW UP!
Ok, I know, officially a curmudgeon.
Not for everyone, but give Shirley Temple a try speedracer. While the plots are as formulaic & predictable as a backstage musical of the same era, her talent and screen presence is amazing. In depression America, her films encouraged such optimism on several levels. An excellent example of a kid triumphing in an adult world.
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>I always think it's funny in old films when women are treated as if it is unfit for them to be subjected to things like boxing, foul language, etc.
Yeah, that was back when women aspired to be LADIES and men aspired to be GENTLEMEN. There was actually appropriate ways to speak & conduct yourself. You knew exactly what "type" of woman went to the fights or dressed like her neighbor in that San Francisco apartment.
Only when men gathered together, could they "relax" and raise their voices in argument, smoke cigars and speak off color remarks. (think of the scene in GWTW when the ladies napped while the men smoked & argued!)
It was distasteful for a woman to ever be exposed to blood & fighting, which is why nurses were so exceptional in the past.
I'm glad women are equal to men in most respects (like careers & abilities) these days, but very very sorry the social "norm" has fallen to shameless classless behaviour.
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>recently got in trouble for using the word "****"
Yeah, it's really annoying to hear college age kids giggling when I say, "The chemical retardant..."
I also cannot use the excellent descriptive word "impotent" in conversation either. Political correctness has hobbled our language.
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>what bothers me is the way a lot of people seem incapable of accepting "impossible" things, even in fiction.
Well I certainly do not believe in ghosts or the afterlife, but my favorite movies involve angels, like HERE COMES MR JORDAN, IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE, even ALL OF ME.
It's easy for me to suspend my beliefs because these "wishes" are universal for most people-we want to believe we live forever. It's the fantasy part of it that makes the story.
But realize there are people who do not care for fantasy stories one whit, just like I don't care for gore, violence or abuse in stories. Often, that limits my enthusiasm for watching war films or even gangster films, but generally if it's "old", it has bit more decency than the "gore for titillation sake" modern movies.
My mother, for example dislikes horror, sci-fi and fantasy, three of my favorite story types. But she LOVES Busby Berkeley or Broadway type musicals which are just a different type of fantasy in my opinion.