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THANKS HGL for that screen capture from Rebecca. I've seen Rebecca several times, even on the big screen and never caught that. He looks thin, I'd never recognise him. I like the cameo when the bus door closes before he can get on. Missed the bus. I also like when he's in the class photo in Dial M For Murder. Cute. OK I'll bite and take a look at the link.

Hitch saying Psycho is a comedy was his idea of a joke, imho. He was always trying to throw people off balance. Although I love Norman's rant about "putting her someplace" then ending it quietly with, "I've suggested it myself". It's clearly a suspense (bordering on horror) story with comedic lines sprinkled in. "Put me in the fruit cellar...you think I'm FRUITY?" I love Pat Hitchcock's role and early line, "He was flirting with you....must have noticed my wedding ring."

I've known about Marion Davies but never seen her in a film before yesterday. I was instantly smitten, she was absolutely adorable! I especially enjoyed Blondie Of The Follies for the strong cast (and gowns-woo!). I don't think I've ever seen (my fave) James Gleason so young! And yes, I had to "consult Leonard" to know the other electric girl was Billie Dove, another name I hear often. Thanks TCM, Marion Davies was a great SUTS choice.

> {quote:title=CineSage_jr wrote:}{quote} > 1936's THE CHARGE OF THE LIGHT BRGADE resulted in an outcry that led to the banning of the device and ascendancy of ASPCA supervision on film sets, that oversight was, and still is, far from air-tight. Producers and studios honored it when it was convenient, and ignored it the rest of the time, and that probably goes for Selznick and GONE WITH THE WIND, too. I agree with that. These days it's pretty much accepted that animals have "rights". But even growing up in the 60's, my parents had the attitude animals were "disposable". I'd assume to a big movie director in the 30's & 40's, a horse was just another prop. If a crew member showed any concern over how an animal was being treated I'm sure it was soothed by a pat on the head and, "it's trained to do that, he's just sleeping" sort of condescending attitude. This is most likely why there's nothing written, no one really knew. Rest assured, nowadays all animals on the set are treated as well as any other actor, sometimes better!

> << Our International Sites: TCM UK, TCM Spain, TCM France | TCM Latin America | TCM Germany >> And what country makes the most films, even more than Hollywood? INDIA. And believe it or not, many contemporary Bollywood films have the same charm as Hollywood musicals of the 50's. Completely ignored here. > 2 countries that don't have an international TCM is Australia and New Zealand. They seem to be left out in the cold. Well, I lived in Australia and I can tell you, their film scene was dismal. I certainly hope that has improved in the last 20 years, but somehow I doubt it.

> {quote:title=georgiegirl wrote:}{quote} > Really, a sedated horse has to drop? Why can't you have it lie down before giving it the sedative? Or put it in a body sling then lower it once the horse is out? Um, shipping to a hospital (with belly sling) isn't always an option, some operations (like neutering) take place right in the barn with just a local anesthetic. A trick horse may lie down on command, it's very hard to teach but very easy to induce with drugs. You can give horses all degrees of sedatives; some just calm them and make their head droop, some knock them out so their legs wobble, then they lie down gently. Some drop violently. You never can predict 100% what will happen. I saw GWTW on the big screen (front row!) & that shot is dark and very difficult to discern. My guess is they used an old horse and euthenized him. Or if that makes you squimish, they just knocked him out with drugs for the scene and he lived happily ever after in Selznick's pasture. Hey, anything's better than the cruelty of "tripping" running horses for battle scenes before that practice was outlawed. Many horses were injured in that process and then killed. By the time Marnie was made, animals were better protected. That horse was injured only by editing.

I always liked the title, Mars Needs Women. But my favorite absurd title will always be Death To Smoochy.

As some of you on this board know, I am a long time horse owner. And I do enjoy seeing horses in film and often wonder "how it's done" knowing horse's average capabilities. According to several books I've read about GWTW, the horse was made to look sick & bony with make-up. I don't buy it. Back in those days no one would bother making prostetic hip bones and ribs for a horse to look emaciated. There's enough old or sick horses out there they could use. Now realize just like dogs or people, a horse can become emaciated when old & infirm. I knew an old show jumper that looked like a bag of bones and was impossible to keep weight on him. He was arthritic and had ulcers and "putting him out to pasture" was not a kind thing, he deserved to rest in peace if you know what I mean. I suspect they used a truly bony old horse for those scenes and administered a sedative for him to drop so violently like that. My horse has had operations and I'll never get used to seeing a horse drop under sedation. In fact, an assistant (me) must hold the horse's head in a sling to make sure it's not injured as he goes down. They may have just euthenized the horse for the movie. I also suspect earlier scenes of the horse where Rhett coveres his face with the shawl is a completely different horse. Us "horsie people" call it "The Amazing Changing Horse Syndrome in Film". What I like about GWTW is all the mule teams. Mules were common in the south back then, but pretty rare these days, who wants to be seen riding a mule? I especially like when Scarlett is hiding the wagon under the bridge and the horse whinnys and she puts her hand over his nose. You can't make a horse whinny on command, it was just a lucky accident. What I hate is seeing so many "fancy" horses with broken tails, like Ashley's when he's called to war early on in the film. Like docking dog's tails, breaking and setting a horse's tail was fashionable for some odd reason. Thank goodness it's outlawed today, but sad to see it as late as 1939.

> {quote:title=filmlover wrote:}{quote} > So you see, we are very lucky, and I, for one, can certainly put up with an occasional showing of a classic film on more than one occasion. Hooray! Thanks for posting that. I agree. We are all so spoiled with TCM being the great station it is, we forget how life was before it. And we have the gall to whine about changing it to suit our personal needs. And I'm the big defender of "repeats", maybe I just have a full life, but I can't always sit on my duff watching movies. Can you imagine my pain only seeing the first half of Suddenly Last Summer first viewing? I had to wait a month to see the second half and even longer before the schedule coincided with my own to view it in it's entirety. Not everyone has recording capabilities and many can't even afford cable these days. People would be better served if they viewed TCM as a glass 3/4 full. And that other quarter may not suit you, but it may be a great part of it for someone else. I feel like a spoiled American sometimes.

Sorry if this is in the wrong "forum" but this has driven me nuts for over a year. Is there any way I can save an image from one of the TCM slide show screen savers? I'm on a Mac & download the slide show as a "package". I have tried searching the folders for each individual photo, but can't seem to locate where they are kept. I could take a "screen shot" when the photo I want comes on, but as soon as I touch my keyboard, the screen saver disengages of course! Any help would be appreciated. I just loved the Frank Capra photo from Director's Month and want to make that my desktop backround picture. Or better yet, print it out to keep on my desk.

Heh, I'm usually clairvoyant knowing the spots where I can get away for a minute or two to pour myself more coffee and not miss anything too important during a movie. Usually, a fight scene, chase or establishing location shots. My mother once told me that "in the old days" all the men would go out and smoke a cigarette when Fred Astaire would start singing!

As usual, I agree with Chip. Always fascinated with good wax figures, I always wanted to see Mdme Tussaud's and was thrilled when one opened in NYC. Figured I'd spend an hour or so, but ended up spending *5* hours there! Many golden age of Hollywood figures are displayed, along with contemporary stars. I was very impressed with the size of John Wayne (who was a big man) Jodie Foster & Susan Sarandon (teeny tiny gals) and slender Boris Karloff. The sculptors are really acurrate and I was amazed at size and color of Princess Diana's eyes. The problem with any statue is it never captures "life", but these really create illusion. And the displays are free standing, so you can walk around them & have your picture taken with them. If you're careful about lighting & pose you can take photos that really look like you've met that person. I've fooled many with photos of me & Robin Willams, Elton John, Micheal Jackson & Steven Spielberg (where I'm wringing his neck!)

> {quote:title=landolphe wrote:}{quote} > I have a really long list of overused, tired, and meaningless words and phrases that are all appropriate candidates for immediate retirement. LIST PLEASE!!! Mine: AnywayS Basically "Some" instead of "about". As in "some 15 passengers" "Went missing" instead of became "lost" "Troops" meaning a soldier when it is clearly a plural word And the all time winner: "oh nine" for 2009. O is a letter, zero is a number. Notice 99% of these phrases are popularized by news media. There was a time when news anchors were the standard for proper English and factual reporting. Now you often hear, "I think" or other opinions & speculation in the situation room. Thank goodness Robert Osborne is so well spoken. Ben Mankiewicz is a little more relaxed but never vulgarizes the language. That said, at the end of the day, this too may be basically an iconic moment for those thinking outside the box!

Did anyone catch this early yesterday morning? I thought it was a fantastic special honoring a great actress and always fascinating personality. Yes, she is stunningly gorgeous, but I love her personality as an actress. Her beauty just adds to her performance. It was a 1975 production and I got a kick out of the mod clothes & hair of (almost creepy) Peter Lawford. He interviewed (among others) Richard Brooks, Vincent Minnelli and costumer Helen Rose! A great opportunity to hear them speak of their careers and working with Liz. I wish Liz would do an extended Private Screenings just to get her words onto film, her story is just incredible. We will never fully understand what mega stars go through with such skewed personal lives. When I first heard about the death of Michael Jackson, my very first thought was, "Poor Liz, she has lost every confidant & friend she's ever had."

I saw Debbie perform a few years ago....it was HEAVEN. She was beautiful, energetic & so talented. I was amazed at how she had every person in the audience rapt and in the palm of her hand. Her routine was brilliant and so entertaining! Stood outside for a half hour in the rain hoping to catch her walking out the stage door. She walked out and systematically stopped to speak to each person waiting for her. When she got to me I thanked her so much for continuing to perform when she should be retired, relaxing & enjoying her grandchildren. I then thanked her for having the insight to save as much of old Hollywood costumes as she could. Her work will always be admired and enjoyed by future generations and that's the greatest contribution anyone can give humanity. She signed my program & gave me a little kiss. BTW I'm a petite woman and she was TINY next to me! Just adorable.

Welcome to the insane world of "upgrades". I don't know why there is this constand desire to upgrade systems. It just screws up the users and forces them to upgrade, often above their budget. If it's working fine, DON'T "fix" it!!

Eh, if you were on your toes you could have picked up *all* her clothing, including dresses MM wore in films at local NYC second hand thrift stores. MM left her clothing (including undergarments) to Lee Strasburg's Studio, who promptly dumped it all at the Salvation Army/Goodwill. Debbie Harry (Blondie lead singer) knew about this, scoured the stores and snagged whatever she could, including a 7 Year Itch dress.

> {quote:title=pktrekgirl wrote:}{quote} > Paths of Glory And since the ending of this one is important, and I already know how it ends, I kinda have never seen the point of sitting down to watch the whole thing. BAD reason. It's how the story is told that makes it great, not the ending! I'm in the same boat with you all. I actually wait seeing some great films to really savor them later. It's no fun if you've seen EVERYthing and there's nothing left to discover.

A very good documentary, I agree with most previous posts; I liked the fact it covered films studio by studio, lots of great clips and I thought the writing was particularly good. I'll be the only person on record to say no, it didn't need to be longer. They covered everything important to tell the story. I'd rather see a succinct documentary than one that goes off on tangents. Funny, I'm a 1939 World's Fair fan and never connected the events of the Fair with the great movies of the year. But I did notice Leonard Maltin wearing a Trylon & Perisphere pin - nice touch! My favorite scenes were the aerial shots of the studios under the closing credits. Just makes me sick thinking all those sets, props, costumes & other riches are poof! gone now. This documentary really illustrates the reasons why the golden age was golden; the studio system. For all the damage the studio system did to individuals like Judy, in turn that same system made possible some of the greatest cultural art of the last century.

> It's hard not to get a tear in your eye during some of those scenes shown to the tune of "Over There", when serving one's country was considered the noble and right thing to do (snipped) Not something to do simply so that you could get money for college Exactly, there seems to be no such thing as selflessness or self satisfaction these days. I've heard others say you're a "chump" if you do anything without financial gain. The scene that always "gets me" even if I just see it as a clip, (heck just thinking about it) is when Cohan leaves the president's office and skips & dances down the stairs. It's executed just perfectly by Cagney and expresses so many strong emotions that are seemingly lost today; patriotism, honor, and pride in recognition of a great job done. Call me corny, call me a chump, it touches me and I'm grateful I don't have a cynical hardened heart.

I have signed up every day some months for the "contest giveaways" and gotten nothing. I really thought it was just a ruse to get email addys. Glad to know you really DO win things....at least someone does. Thanks for posting it and restoring my faith in TCM contests. Congratulations!

> {quote:title=HollywoodGolightly wrote:}{quote} > Four Daughters is the movie that first made me take notice of Priscilla Lane, I think she was wonderful in it! It's the best showpiece movie for the Lane Sisters I can think of. Priscilla had just a tad more "star quality" than her sisters, although all were talented. It's fun to watch an old movie with a younger person who has no idea who the stars are. They invariably see the "star quality" and ask, "Who IS that?" Priscilla Lane is one of those people everyone notices. I would have loved to have seen her in more movies, especially YDD - good call!

The other day The Greatest Show On Earth was on and I was busy, so just listening to it. During a big production number, there is a guy singing....we never see his face. But just from a audio point of view he sounds exactly like Michigan Frog that Warner Bros cartoon charactor Chuck Jones created. Does anybody here know if I'm correct?

> {quote:title=ChipHeartsMovies wrote:}{quote} > TikiSoo, does your group screen rarities or more widely popular classics? Funny you should ask....generally speaking I'd call them "unusual". Although our season's titles may sound familiar to us, the general public never heard of them. For example we screened Trail of The Vigilantes starring (sigh) Francot Tone. Our yearly Cinefest is where the _really_ rare stuff is projected; silents, early films, shorts, movie star's home movies, etc. It's for hardcore film lovers. Anyone interested in attending should PM me. And I must comment on OllieT's post re: "Rewatchable Films" > I can't re-watch (they're just too hard, too emotionally powerful) I feel the same way about a few films; excellent, but too emotionally draining. I think it has to do with a downbeat ending, feeling of hopelessness. The Miracle Worker is emotionally draining, but I could watch it again because the ending has positive resolution. Paths Of Glory I saw first on the big screen, and then on TCM once. I'll never watch it again. Oh yeah, another is Ace In The Hole , never again. Too bad because I love Kirk Douglas, maybe he's just too intense. What are some of your "too intense" films, Ollie?

I was lucky enough to grow up in Rochester NY, home of Eastman Kodak where photography was completely funded in all schools. Every kid knew how to develop and print b&w film, required. I discovered the Eastman would screen old silents for seniors on Tuesdays at 1pm and I skipped school for 5 years to sit in these screenings. It was like moving black & white photography! Moving away from Rochester in my adult life left me seeing old movies on TV or the cold airport hangar theater experience. I caught a few classics ocassionally in smaller theaters, but nothing furthered my love for really old classic films more than breaking down and getting cable just for TCM. DVDs were next, they offered the opportunity to find "newer" films, like Woody Allen's to round out my interest. Full circle, I found a small group (approx 50) that meets every Monday night that projects classic and often extremely rare film right in my own town! I still drive to Rochester ocassionally to catch a classic, 2 next month actually.