Tikisoo

> Hallucinogenic mushrooms, of course. ChipsHearts is a man of high morels. Ninotchka would approve.

Geez Holly, you mentioned the 2 Bogdanovich films I haven't seen! My favorites are his classic Paper Moon & Last Picture Show . But it's always good to have films in the "always wanted to see" catagory. It's no fun if you've seen EVERYthing, is it? I have always loved Bogdanovich, even with his smug attitude & ascot. Very disappointed in his Essentials run though, he gave nothing of himself. I have never seen a Bogdanovich film I didn't like, even his early Targets was better than most big budget schlop coming out of Hollwood today. Somewhere in the archives of this forum, someone posted to the effect, "his arrogance early in his career didn't serve him well in Hollywood, like Geoege Minifer he got his comeuppence" I loved that post. And I think deep down Bogdanovich wants us to feel that way. I think he wants to be put into the same category as Orson Welles, "boy genius offends Hollywood & is held back" That's why the ascot....he's dressed and ready for wine commercials.

I have more photos of Veronica than any other actress in my collection. It's great she caused a sensation with the hair ("sweater, sarong & peek-a-boo hair") but that quickly developed into a real movie star, loved by all instead of just teen boys. She made very few films but played everything from broad comedy Sullivan's Travels to gripping drama So Proudly We Hail. She was teeny tiny, very childlike, but had an inner strength and confidence that balances her appeal. Yes, her hair is soft and radiant, reflecting the light like a halo. But I love her big smooth forehead, and seemingly always searching eyes and little bow mouth. She could have stayed in some insipid little girlish roles and probably had a career. But instead her roles really stretched her to become an actress with substance. I love when an actress breaks the bounds of beauty and Veronica Lake certainly did that.

Wow fred, an entire letter from Cagney! Really nice that he'd take the time to thank you. Tells us a lot about what type of person he was. Do you get your autographs signed personally "to" you? Thank goodness I always have, it turns just a signature into something personal. These days you almost have to reassure the star it's not just obtained to sell on ebay. (I know someone who does this & I loathe him for it)

C'mon, we know you have something special hidden away in your home. Costuming? Prop? Autograph? What is your absolutely favorite piece of "Hollywood" in your collection? (one regular poster has a space suit from 2001! Wow!) Show us and tell us, just like grade school! I'll start: I was selling old Hollywood equipment on ebay for a friend. When he brought a set of these baby spots, I snagged them as my commission, my favorite Hollywood item: My least favorite item is a Maltese Falcon I bought in the 80's, purportedly cast from the original mold. It looks like the plaster slumped when drying. Everyone else loves it, I hate it:

I've seen TWOZ hundreds of times, twice in a theater on 35mm film. Last night's broadcast was the first time I noticed wind machines used on the Wicked Witch only during her opening sequence, "Who killed my sister....was it YOU?" It gave an unearthly quality to all Margaret Hamilton's movement. Little touches like that make this film a masterpiece. I am forever amazed at kids who don't like this film. *Boo* to TCM Programmers who scheduled this film 8pm on Thursday and 6pm Friday. I'm usually the defender of the "multiple broadcasts" since not everyone is able to view certain time slots. It would have made more sense if one broadcast was prime time and the other was early morning.

> {quote:title=hamradio wrote:}{quote} > "Mouse on the Moon"? Lol, never heard of that one before. It's the sequel to Essentials The Mouse That Roared broadcast 7/11. Think both are TCM premieres.

> {quote:title=JoeBond wrote:}{quote} > I thought that the perfect example was the Stanley Kubrick night which only showed two of his movies. BUT, they showed a stellar 2 hour documentary film on Kubrick himself, never seen on TCM before. More than fair trade for another screening of 2001, imho. Geesh, people complain they show the same films over & over while others complain over their absence. I liked the idea of Director's Month when they showed a documentary on THAT filmmaker, then a few of his films afterwards. It made it more personal and kept with the theme.

A shock the other day to see Robert Osborne actually cut off mid sentence!! I looked at my Mom in disbelief and she said since the switchover to digital she's seen that several times. She thought it had something to do with "timing" to the very second, instead of within the minute. I certainly didn't like it.

> {quote:title=Ascotrudgeracer wrote:}{quote} > Imagine how Betty would have photographed in glorious Technicolor! There are several films, albeit shorts, with Bettie Page out there. The two most common are the pillow fight in b&w and Bettie covorting on the beach in a yellow bikini. Color, but not Technicolor. She was beautiful. If you're interested in BP, I suggest the biopic "The Notorious Bettie Page". It illustrates (rather unconvincingly) that Bettie was unaware how men enjoyed photos of her. Although I believe her, I'm not sure I believe the movie.

You read about Grahame using "Kleenex" (sic) earlier in this thread, amazing. > TikiSoo wrote: > I've been reading a fantastic biography of Robert Mitchum by Lee Server that has great anecdotes of old Hollywood. Talking about the filming of Not A Stranger, Gloria is mentioned; Quote: "She (Grahame) had put tissue under her lips because someone told her a thrust upper lip was sexy!" said Stanley Kramer. "See what I had to cope with?" After many hours of shooting, the toilet paper would begin to wad up with saliva, making her dialogue incomprehensible. When Mitchum tried to kiss her in the film's big passionate love scene, he found flecks of wet tissue coming out of her mouth. And she smelled funny. "She's a nut!" he (Mitchum) told people. endquote I also posted an old publicity photo I found in my attic of GG:

Those jewels are amazingly gorgeous. It makes me wonder with all the synthetics available, the downturned economy and people just not viewing stones as investments, what might happen to "real" stone jewelry? The few people talented and qualified to cut these larger stones are dying out. Cutting is where the artistry comes in, otherwise, it's just a "stone" destined for your local mall jeweler. People don't care about quality as much as the bottom line of cost. Just another artistic talent discarded and forgotten. I, for one am grateful Dick & Liz had that kind of disposible income, if only for a short time in the history of great gems. She was a queen in our era.

I saw that ad with Brad's face and thought, "My, he looks like a woman" then realized what woman he looks like! This reinforces my theory that as children, boys & girls can easily be mistaken. Then, after adolescence the differences are distinct. Middle age brings the sexes closer and by "old" age you can barely tell the sexes apart.

> {quote:title=johnm_001 wrote:}{quote} > Not sure about the ahead of their time spin on it. Seen today, they both stink, imo. I'm pretty sure I would have felt the same way in the 40s. Still, I know people who love them both. I'm just not one of them. By the same token, I don't see what his sexuality has to do with anything??? Although, I do think there are certain films that are appreciated more by men who are gay. Both films may be among those. I know two films that I detest, Cukor's A Star is Born and Donen's Funny Face seem to be beloved by gay men. Interesting the word "stink" has come up. I only EVER heard my mother (a very proper lady) use the word "stink" and it was at the end of Spirit Of St Louis. I always loved the line in Philadelphia Story, "Never say stink. Smell if you must." Minelli's sexuality absolutely comes into play through his films. I worked many years in the fashion industry, the sole woman among 30 gay men. Not to stereotype, but I learned a LOT about the psyche of what appeals to them, probably because of shared experience amplification. For example, quite often these men came from households with strong dominating mothers and complacent weak fathers, if present at all. They relate very strongly to the oppression Bette Davis endures in Now Voyager and her "coming out". We all do to a certain extent, but gay men grasp for any common experience to relieve their isolation. Of course, these movies are enjoyed by everyone, but the themes can have special appeal to those who feel socially ostracized. I think Minelli gravitated towards these types of stories or emphasized a certain aspect in his films in accordance with his sensibility.

Yeah, her smoker's raspy voice would have been just perfect for Scarlett's girlish flirting and cajoling.

> If they want us to think they are so good, why don't they *adopt a needy child*? Because they are vain. Why else would they think ANYone is interested in their stupid little life? For whatever negative things may be said about Mia Farrow, I give her tons of credit for sharing her life & wealth with needy kids. I admire her greatly for her kid "collecting". And cinemafan....I am a painter and often listen to well loved movies while working. I have never actually _viewed_ Shop Around The Corner, but _heard_ it at least 15 times! Musicals work best for listening, silents & foreign films do not work at all!

We watched Father Of The Bride for the upteenth time last night. I was absolutely astonished at how incredibly succinct this film is, as well as the sequel, Dividend. Each scene is relatively short and cuts right into the next "stage", rather than dwelling. The audience gets the big laugh and it quickly changes to the next disaster. Nothing is worse than a film that drags, and dragging is deadly for a comedy. Minnelli's dramas are paced a bit more leisurely, as they should be, but never drag. It seems he really understood the pace of all genres and edited superbly. And I loved John Lithgow's intro. He's doing a great job, imho. Very likeable, it was a great choice for an Essentials Jr.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > "Rupert Pupkin" is also one of the best character names ever. When you have to network your computers, you need to "name" them. Users get confused with names like "Soo's G4" or "Mom's iMac", so I've always given my computers charactors names. I once had a Rupert Pupkin and Artie Fufkin running together! (My newest is named Joe Doakes, Hector B. Poole was my first computer. Always open to suggestions for fun names!)

You can't rely on TV to completely fill your life, can you? Sorry, but even a day of films I'm not wholly interested in still beats other network's offerings. Some soundtracks make excellent backround listening for dull household chores. And catching up on recorded movies is another great substitute! I've watched the schlock other channels offer just once just to see what all the hub bub is about. A millionth viewing of Treasure of the Sierra Madre sure beats out Jon & Kate Plus 8 for me every time.

Well I'm lucky enough to work at my local neighborhood theater and am good friends with the owner. They make NO money from the second run films they show. Yes, the concession stand is the greatest profit in that scenario. RENTING out the theater is what truly supports the venue, though. The second floor ballroom is rented out for swanky parties, the auditorium often used for corporate power point projection. An occasional live musical event helps, although the theater is usually trashed afterwards. Local promoters rent the theater to show independent or special interest films, which I think RULES. I can see a new blockbuster Bollywood film almost every month, horror classic triple features twice a month and Cinefest silents once a year. The promoters pay through the nose for the theater, but at least break even and thankfully have been gaining momentum. Take a look at a typical schedule: [ThePalace|http://www.palacetheatresyracuse.com/] PS I once worked for a coffee roaster too and discovered typical diner $1/cup of coffee yeilds 80% profit. Huge coffee chains must make 500% profit per cup.

I just love Marty, the guy. It was great seeing his parents on film, you can absolutely see where his exuberance comes from. LOVED the decor of the apartment...more Italian than the Moonstruck sets! I only wish the bulk of his films weren't so gorey, I can usually only see them once- and NEVER on the big screen! I can handle his "softer" films and just love how he illustrates a story. Kundun was a favorite, as is King of Comedy. Aviator wasn't great, but I'm glad he made it because Hughes was such a fascinating charactor who's accomplishments will soon be fogotten. Glad to hear enthusiasm for KOC. It's one of those films you either love or hate. I especially like when Rupert's in a fantasy and his Mom yells at him. We all live in fantasy day dreams to a certain extent and I especially like that as observers we're not sure what is real and what isn't. Clever. And anyone notice the guy mimicing the dialogue in a back booth in the diner? Apparently that guy was going to be in a sub plot but it was dropped. Funny Marty wouldn't reshoot that scene.

> {quote:title=Ascotrudgeracer wrote:}{quote} > Actually he would, but never with non-actors. Why? He was irritated by people who made a big deal out of a famous but simple bit of improv.Blame him? Yes. I'm an "artist" and people discuss my work with me all the time. I like doing it, nothing could be more boring to me than discussing it. Refusing to talk to "fans" is the rudest, most ungracious attitude, no matter how annoyed it makes you. Maybe Brando was a great actor, but his selfish, arrogant attitude towards well meaning, decent people makes him a very small man in my book. Media frenzy & loss of privacy, now THAT is rude and ungracious behaviour and can understand an actor's disdain for that.

OK, I wrote earlier this is one of my all time fave movies. Believe it or not, I was heavily into meditation Suday pulling weeds and started thinking about the film: How sad that Joe Pendleton will never regain any sort of consciousness of Joe Pendleton. He's going through life thinking he's Murdock. Without consciousness of Joe, he ISN'T Joe anymore isn't he? Corkle realizes Joe is really, completely "gone". So really, Joe _does_ die in the plane crash and Murdock isn't killed by the bullet. Murdock lives, with Joe's spirit, but not with his brain. Not a good trade off, imho. I liked it better when Joe went into Farnsworth's body. He looked liked Farnsworth to everyone else, but his mind & spirit were Joe's.

> {quote:title=OneSharpDame wrote:}{quote} > I was really surprised that I didn't like Seven Samurai. Really kind of disappointed. I may have another crack at it in another year or so to see if I feel differently about it. This is a common comment. The Seven Samurai is a long film with subtitles and can be difficult for many people. I suggest you give it a try at a theater with an audience if you can. I find many films can be difficult to "get into" if viewed on TV. The picture is small, the subtitles are small, you can't always see the action while reading. Viewing a film in a theater totally immerses you into the action of the story. Having an audience reacting all around you (not talking or looking at cel phones!) with attention or laugher really helps put you into the mood too. I was lucky enough to see TSS in a theater first viewing and loved it. I've tried watching it on TV more than once and cannot get past the first half hour.

Well, I *am* a computer techie, when my restoration work gets slow. I am really annoyed with this idea that "everyone must upgrade, upgrade, upgrade!" 99% of the people who enjoy the internet just want their computer to work like their car; turn the key and drive it. They don't want to "upgrade" their carborator every six months to make things "work better". They don't want to have to know how an engine works. They just want to GO. Upgrading message board type websites is uncalled for. It generally causes more trouble than efficiency. If it's not broken why fix it? PS another board I frequent has been inundated with flash ads within the posts....it slows everything down, looks unsightly and unexpected noises start out of nowhere. Ugh we hate commercials on TV, now the internet discussion forums.