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dougiezerts,
I agree wholeheartedly. Television has become a wasteland of exceedingly trashy programming produced over the past 15 to 20 years and little else. With endless, and very loud commercials, and promos! Frequently, it seems like more commercial content than actual show! I would love to see another network along the lines of TCM that provides an alternative to this crap!
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calvinnme,
RKO Radio-Pictures, had been FBO (Film Booking Office), before changing their name in the late 20's, or very early 30's.
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Mike,
In all honesty, this is not a very good photo of Jacqueline Logan at all. She was an incredibly gorgeous woman.
Haven't found much to show what Camilla Horn looked like. Might have to make some captures? There should be production stills from FAUST, THE TEMPEST, and ETERNAL LOVE around among others.
O'Sullivan as I saw in "STAGE MOTHER" was some kind of Lovely creature.
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The Maureen O'Sullivan is not low resolution. But the Harold Lloyd Still from SAFETY LAST definitely is. I workerd on both of them a bit. While I managed to make the Lloyd look better, I just dulled out the the other one. I was attempting to fix the skin tone. Part of the problem is there is not enough lighting on her face, and to much on some other parts of the body.


I am not very happy with the results of either of these, and might start over, and try a different approach.
As far as Picture It is concerned? Well, this depends. My current version seems to have no way to control transparancy levels? The former version did have.
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Mike,
Who is the girl in the 5th photo? I do not recognize her at all. The Harold Lloyd one from SAFETY LAST, looks like it was done with "Picture It", and not "Photo-shop". I believe that I could spruce it up quite a bit.
Here is a photo of Jacqueline Logan, number 3 on my Top 10 Silent Screen Beauties list, that I worked on just last week.

*Jacqueline Logan, Great Big Fan!*
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calvinnme,
Yes, I have RIO RITA with Bebe Daniels. But have never seen STREET GIRL with Betty Compson before. Thanks for the reminder.
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*The very beautiful Jacqueline Logan*
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smokey15,
I agree wholeheartedly! MAN WOMAN & SIN (MGM, 1927) is over 80 years old. Maybe it's that Jeanne Eagels is in the film, I don't know?
TCM can, and of course has run WINGS, but they are subjected to what ever Paramount provides them with for broadcast. Inexplicably That hasn't been the Photo-play Productions version. What is the use of having a superior version produced for Television and it is never seen?
In fairness to TCM, it definitely isn't their fault that the old Laser-disc release is what Paramount saddled them with. I certainly haven't given up in my quest to get the Photo-play Productions version on TCM.
TCM Programmer Charles Tabesh freely admitted that He was under the impression all along that the Photo-play edition is what they would be getting from Paramount when they inked the contract in the first place! Since then, He has been attempting to rectify the situation and clear the rights, but has been unsuccessful. Paramount/Viacom is directly to blame for the Kevin Brownlow restoration not being seen!
I was told by some guy who seems to know allot about lease-agreements on Nitrateville, that apparently, there never were any American Broadcast rights as part of the arrangement with Paramount for the Brownlow restoration of WINGS? Just British Television. Well, to be blunt BIG DEAL! In 16 years, that should have long since changed! The Photo-play WINGS was produced in 1993!
It all boils down to Paramount not paying Photo-play, and Carl Davis anything for all their hard-work! Gaylord Carter is passed on, and apparently has no "heirs" to speak of? That's why Paramount sticks with his Wurlitzer scored version. They don't have to shell out any additional royalties to anyone.
It's recently come to my attention that the Safety-stock transfer used for the 1985 Paramount Laser-disc, was struck clear back in 1965! I am not kidding here! 43 years ago! Yet that is all that TCM is allowed to play of this picture! The Theater Organ score was also recorded sometime in the Mid to late 70's. By stark contrast, The Photo-play version I am told is very sharp, not muddy. It's pristine looking, and has all the original tints re-instated. Plus you have the awesome Carl Davis orchestral score!
It seems that the Channel Four Silent's series, and Photo-play commissioned the Davis score for WINGS. Paramount had nothing to do with it. They may own the rights to the film itself, but Brownlow 's company restored, and scored this version not Paramount. They never purchased the rights to the score. Another fella on Nitrateville told me that Paramount already had a score, so why would they want a competing version shown? My answer to that is? Huh? In my estimation, It's not a competing version at all. Just a more recent one.
If Paramount won't put out this version of WINGS on DVD, they should at least allow it to be shown on TCM! I mean the old Gaylord Carter scored Paramount Home video version from the 80's has been bootlegged on DVD and DVD-R all over the place for years and years! There is nothing all that rare about it. Conversely, The Photo-play edition is just collecting dust!
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This list is a joke. Dominated by Action-fantasy films, gross-out humor flicks, and even Slasher movies! How totally depressing.
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gwtwbooklove,
Yes, I to remember the Bing, and Bowie segment when it first aired in roughly 1977. A classic. I have seen it somewhere else much more recently probably less than 10 years ago, but I do not remember where this was anymore.
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Scottman,
Kevin Brownlow said on Silver Screen Oasis back in May, that He believed there were also some rights issues involved with MAN, WOMAN & SIN. But I can't imagine what they could be? Do you have any idea? Brownlow said that it was important that this one be seen though, and the rights cleared.
I feel the same way about the Photo-play Productions edition of WINGS.
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nosound,
I have all of those Raymond Griffith's except OPEN ALL NIGHT. These are not great prints by any means. Hopefully, better ones survive someplace? David Shepard said that they did, but wasn't specific.
I have BROKEN HEARTS OF BROADWAY too. In-fact, I have a couple different versions. One from Sunrise Silent's the other from Unknown Video. No, that's not the one. It is the correct year though. Some months ago, they had another film of Colleen Moore's from 1923 for sale on Ioffer.com. I just can not recall the title?
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nosound.
To update the post a little, HER BIG NIGHT (Universal, 1926) with Laura La Plante survives. I know people who have seen it. Dan Navarro viewed it at a live screening, and claimed that the print was in superb condition. Not needing much restoration at all.
Clarence Brown's BUTTERFLY (Universal, 1924), with La Plante, Norman Kerry, and Margaret Livingston, was recently restored by UCLA according to Kevin Brownlow, so was Sidney Franklin's THE HOMEMAKER with Alice Joyce, and Clive Brook.
HER SISTER FROM PARIS (First National, 1925) with Constance Talmadge and Ronald Coleman meanwhile, was restored a year or two ago by the Doris group. Along with the Norma Talmadge KIKI. The restored Talmadge titles might make it to DVD from someone, or so I have been told, probably Milestone, or Kino before to long now? So that is good news.
Ed managed to find a copy of THE FAIR CO-ED, but the quality was dismal. However, in July there was a screening of a new 35 Millimeter print in L. A. I know of people who have claimed to have seen TIN GODS, and FORBIDDEN HOURS? The later apparently had a live screening in 2002. However, Silent era.com still list's that film as "Status Unknown"?
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Ed,
Don't forget about CAMEO KIRBY. And here are a few more titles of great interest. BUTTERFLY, HER BIG NIGHT, HER SISTER FROM PARIS, THE HOMEMAKER, THE JONESTOWN FLOOD, and TIN GODS. Also anything with Corinne Griffith, or Colleen Moore that I don't already have.
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Big_Bopper,
Most DVD players made in the past 4 to 5 years will read DVD-R, and DVD+R format. You should be able to get a used one for little of nothing that plays recorded DVD-R's. Maybe even a used DVD-Recorder for little of nothing.
I agree that HD is a joke as far as I am concerned. Who wants to watch continuous commercials in HD??? Probably very few classic films will ever be offered in this format either? I have very limited to zero interest in contemporary movies. So what is the point? Let them take away the network channels in February, I don't watch them anyway. The only show on any of the networks that I keep on on is SMALLVILLE, which I have watched from when it first came on the air. I have not followed another weekly series in years, and years.
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nosound,
Hey, All of these sound interesting. Especially, the Billie Dove movie. Not sure where you are finding some of these films at? You consistently have been able to come up with titles I have not seen anywhere else.
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PopcornAndDots,
Huh? Please note, it was certainly never my intention to be rude in any way to you or anyone else for that matter on this forum. As anyone who knows me here can attest, I am not like that.
While I wish I could say that I have seen more of Will Rogers work, I haven't. And majority of his films seemingly have not survived? I do not understand why you thought that I was trying to be rude or meant to insult you? Nevertheless, My sincere apology for this misunderstanding.
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PopcornAndDots,
I have not seen the 1922 version of THE HEADLESS HORSEMAN, but I'm sorry to say that the film is generally considered to be a real clunker. I haven't seen much of Will Rogers Silent's, or for that matter his sound films either.
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Ed,
This article is great! I knew really very little about Johnny Mack Brown other than He was a former Football player at Alabama. Course I have seen several of his Silent films, and a few of the Westerns. That's about all though.
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Eveyone,
The infinitely superior Kevin Brownlow-David Gill-Patrick Stanbury Photo-play Productions edition of WINGS is still tied up in an absurd "Legal Limbo", and thus not on TCM. When by all rights it should be the version that they are running.
Incredibly, however, this landmark movie is being screened, with a live orchestral performance of the Carl Davis score this coming February, in Wisconsin! If you want to see a beautifully restored, tinted 35 millimeter print of WINGS, not the murky old dubb TCM is forced to run, on the big screen, then here is your chance!
http://www.beloitjanesvillesymphony.org/performances.html
http://nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?t=1884

*Buddy Rogers, Clara Bow, and Richard Arlen. From William Wellman's WINGS (Paramount, 1927)*
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Ed,
Yes, I am very excited about finally seeing this edition at long last!
I certainly haven't given up in my quest to get the Photo-play version on TCM either. Apparently, there never were any American Broadcast rights, just British Television? Well, I say Big Deal! In 16 years, that should have changed! It all comes down to Paramount not paying Photo-play, and Carl Davis anything for their hard-work. Gaylord Carter is passed on and apparently has no heirs to speak of? That's why Paramount sticks with his version. They don't have to shell out any additional royalties to anyone.
The Safety-stock transfer used for the 1985 Paramount laser-disc was struck clear back in 1965! I am not kidding! 43 years ago! Yet that is all that TCM is allowed to play of this picture! Not TCM's fault at all.
Here is a photo I just worked on a couple nights ago of Marion Davies.

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Film_Fatale,
Well, this is still a few months away. We will have to wait and see what develops. Never been to Wisconsin before, but they make the best Cheese in America! Meantime, I just sent you a PM.
I certainly haven't given up in my quest to get the Photo-play version on TCM. Apparently, there never were any American broadcast rights? Big deal! In 16 years that should have changed! Same with THE WEDDING MARCH! It all comes down to Paramount not paying Photo-play, and Carl Davis anything. Gaylord Carter is passed on and apparently has no heirs to speak of? That's why Paramount sticks with his version.
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Everyone,
The vastly superior Kevin Brownlow-David Gill-Patrick Stanbury Photo-play Productions edition of WINGS is still tied up in an absurd "Legal Limbo", and thus not on TCM. When by all rights it should be the version that they are running.
Incredibly, however, this landmark movie is being screened, with a live orchestral performance of the Carl Davis score this coming February, in Wisconsin! If you want to see a beautifully restored, tinted 35 millimeter print of WINGS, not the murky old dubb TCM is forced to run, on the big screen, then here is your chance!
http://www.beloitjanesvillesymphony.org/performances.html
http://nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?t=1884

*Buddy Rogers, Clara Bow, and Richard Arlen. From William Wellman's WINGS (Paramount, 1927)*
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The dramatically superior Kevin Brownlow-David Gill-Patrick Stanbury Photo-play Productions edition of WINGS is still tied up in an absurd "Legal Limbo", and thus not on TCM. When by all rights it should be the version that they are running. Incredibly, however, this landmark movie is being screened, with a live orchestral performance of the Carl Davis score this coming February, in Wisconsin! If you want to see a beautifully restored print of WINGS, not the murky old dubb TCM is forced to run, on the big screen, then here is your chance!
http://www.beloitjanesvillesymphony.org/performances.html
http://nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?t=1884

*Buddy Rogers, Clara Bow, and Richard Arlen. From William Wellman's WINGS (Paramount, 1927)*

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Ed,
I just colorized this gorgeous photo of Marion Davies. Must have been taken when she was still with the Follies?