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Angie,
I knew that you would become un-glued over Charles Farrell all along. So none of this is a surprise to me. April going crazy over Victor McLaglen, on the other hand, now that was a bit of a surprise! And she wasn't alone!
Hey, With all this talk about Farrell, don't give up on John Gilbert just yet my dear's! After-all, you haven't seen THE BIG PARADE, or THE COSSACKS. I know allot of ladies that feel pretty much the same way about Gilbert that you gals do about Farrell, and even Coop!
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The lady In the Number 5 Spot of Top Female Stars of 1928.
*Delores Del Rio, Timeless Beauty.*
*Delores Del Rio, Lordy Mama!!!*
*Charles Farrell is in danger of being taken advantage of here. A vexing Delores Del Rio seems determined to have Her way with him! From Raoul Walsh THE RED DANCE (Fox, 1928)*
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Ed, Aaron, Scottman, Yadda, yadda,
Again, it's probably to late for this particular project. I have been told Gilbert's all but unknown Fox feature MONTE CRISTO (1922) will be the other film with BARDLEYS THE MAGNIFICENT in the Flicker Alley set.
There is no way Warner's would let Flicker Alley release a film of the status of THE BIG PARADE. Hopefully, Warner's has that on the way in early 2009 as well. And with any luck we will get both the new version, and the older Thames one re-mastered. I shutter to see the newly mastered print saddled up with some inferior score, when the original could be recorded and used.
It's high time for a big set of Gilbert titles on DVD. I would love to see MAN, WOMAN & SIN, and THE COSSACKS too. Both films exist in virtually complete form and in beautiful prints. As does THE SHOW. LA BOHEME needs re-mastering. It is in pretty bad shape. Anyway that is more of Lillian Gish film than a John Gilbert one.
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Angie,
No, Raoul Walsh THE RED DANCE is not a lost film. I just posted about this. I have a copy, but the quality as with FAZIL is dismal. I hope Fox has nice Fine-Grain masters. They probably do have. Would love to see some more Delores Del Rio Silents on official DVD. The only one that's been released in EVANGELINE (1929).
I have a few others including WHAT PRICE GLORY? (1926) with the Movie-tone track, and THE TRAIL OF '98 (1928), also with vintage Western Electric track.
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Film_Fatale,
I will have to check on her Fox features. THE RED DANCE still exists. Pity Fox doesn't restore this movie. I would love to see a nice print. WHAT PRICE GLORY? should of course also be on DVD.
According to Moving Picture World Magazine, Delores Del Rio was actually the 5th most popular actress in Hollywood for 1928. Her film RAMONA was a ligitimate Block-buster. THE TRAIL OF '98, was apparently also quite successful. as well.
Here is another simply gorgeous photo of the lady. Wow!
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Angie,
*Charles Farrell in danger of being taken advantage of here. A vexing Delores Del Rio seems determined to have Her way with him! From Raoul Walsh THE RED DANCE (Fox, 1928)*
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Johanna,
Who is that being Strangled???
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Kate,
Hadn't you seen THE RAG MAN before? I thought that you had? They never said a thing about Linda Martinez this time?
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Ed,
What are these spoons made out of? How long have you had them? Incidentally, William Haines was Number 6 on the list.
Kate,
Uhg! I can't drink Cappuccino any more! I wish that I could!
These are the Top 5 Female Stars for 1928, according to the same distributors survey in Moving Picture World magazine toward the end of that year. This list will undoubtedly turn allot of heads here.
1. Clara Bow
Far and away the highest vote getter among any Star in Hollywood both Male or Female. Incredibly not one of Clara's Four features released that year still survives today. Although there is some fragmentary footage of two of them.
2. Colleen Moore
The second highest vote getter among the ladies by a wide-margin. Colleen Moore was bigger for much longer than Clara Bow was, without question, and commanded a significantly higher salary. For about 7 years she was a Top 5 Box-office attraction! In 1928, LILAC TIME was a major Blockbuster. SYNTHETIC SIN seems to have been about as well received by ticket buyers.
3. Billie Dove
Very hard to believe. I haven't seen much in the way of her films at all! I would like to be able to see a few in which she got top billing.
4. Bebe Daniels
Kind of a surprise here. Though Bebe's "Good Little, Bad Girl" character was so infectious and fun. You couldn't help but be a fan.
5. Delores Del Rio
Not exactly the Delores that I was expecting to find in this spot. Del Rio had a good year, with RAMONA, THE RED DANCE, and THE TRAIL OF '98.
And here is the second 5:
6. Mary Pickford
Now understand that Mary released no first run films in 1928, and still ranked well into the top 10! She probably did have a re-issue or two in theaters that year. In many ways this is a pretty darn impressive showing considering zero new films!
7. Marion Davies
OK, so who was really the queen of MGM in the late 20's??? Based on this it sure wasn't Garbo! Let's here it for Marion!!!
8. Laura La Plante
:Nobody would have expected this one. Though I personally love this little gal!
9. Norma Shearer
The recognized "Queen of MGM", one might anticipate her to rate a little bit higher.
10. Joan Crawford
All on The strength of OUR DANCING DAUGHTERS alone it would appear? Joan had been kicking about for a few years, and hadn't made really a significant impression on much of anyone until this film. And it seems that poor Anita Page was already being overlooked?
Not even making the top 10 at all are some very big names, among them were:
Janet Gaynor, Greta Garbo, Delores Costello, Gloria Swanson, Norma Talmadge, Renee Adoree, and my beloved Corinne Griffith.
So where did Greta check in you demand to know? Try the number 12 spot, just behind Janet Gaynor at number 11! To Renee's credit she did make the Top 20 at 17, and was also listed in the Top 5 favorite screen couples with John Gilbert. Interestingly enough, Gilbert. and Garbo as a couple did not even make the list!
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These are the Top 5 Female Stars for 1928, according to the same distributors survey in Moving Picture World magazine toward the end of that year. This list will undoubtedly turn allot of heads here.
1. Clara Bow
Far and away the highest vote getter among any Star in Hollywood both Male or Female. Incredibly not one of Clara's Four features released that year still survives today. Although there is some fragmentary footage of two of them.
2. Colleen Moore
The second highest vote getter among the ladies by a wide-margin. Colleen Moore was bigger for much longer than Clara Bow was, without question, and commanded a significantly higher salary. For about 7 years she was a Top 5 Box-office attraction! In 1928, LILAC TIME was a major Blockbuster. SYNTHETIC SIN seems to have been about as well received by ticket buyers.
3. Billie Dove
Hard to believe. I haven't seen much in the way of her films at all!
4. Bebe Daniels
Kind of a surprise here. Though Bebe's "Good Little, Bad Girl" character was so infectious and fun. You couldn't help but be a fan.
5. Delores Del Rio
Not exactly the Delores that I was expecting to find in this spot. Del Rio had a good year, with RAMONA, THE RED DANCE, and THE TRAIL OF '98.
And here is the second 5:
6. Mary Pickford
Understand that Mary released no first run films in 1928, and still ranked well into the top 10! She probably did have a re-issue or two in theaters that year. In many ways this is a pretty darn impressive showing considering zero new films!
7. Marion Davies
So who was really the queen of MGM in the late 20's??? Based on this it sure wasn't Garbo! Let's here it for Marion!!!
8. Laura La Plante
Nobody would have expected this one. Though I personally love this little gal!
9. Norma Shearer
The recognized queen of MGM, one might anticipate her to rate a little higher.
10. Joan Crawford
All on The strength of OUR DANCING DAUGHTERS alone it would appear? Joan had been kicking about for a few years, and hadn't made really a significant impression on much of anyone until this film. And it seems that poor Anita Page was already being overlooked?
Not even making the top 10 at all are some very big names, among them were:
Janet Gaynor, Greta Garbo, Delores Costello, Gloria Swanson, Norma Talmadge, Renee Adoree, and my beloved Corinne Griffith.
So where did Greta check in you demand to know? Try the number 12 spot, just behind Janet Gaynor at number 11! To Renee's credit she did make the Top 20 at 17, and was also listed in the Top 5 favorite screen couples with John Gilbert. Interestingly enough, Gilbert. and Garbo as a couple did not even make the list!
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Wendy,
I believe that the 5.0, and 5.1 are actually Dolby settings. I never really pay much attention to Stereo settings, but it sounds as if that's what you are describing?
Huh, don't like Marion's acting? Oh, no! I love Marion Davies, and I think she was a brilliant Actress, and Comedienne! More than just a beautiful woman!
Yes, KIKI is a very good print, that was restored only two of three years ago. It has no music though, so I will need to add a score.
I never heard of VLC player?
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So who were the Top 5 Most Popular Male Stars of 1928, at least according to Moving Picture World Magazine? You might be very surprised at this list:
1. Lon Chaney
2. Tom Mix
3. John Gilbert
4. Harold Lloyd
5. Richard Dix
A brief analysis,
Chaney obviously had a broader demographic of appeal, and bigger fan base than virtually any other Male Star at the time. He received way more votes than anyone from distributors and theater owners. Anyone that is except for Clara Bow, who left them all in the dust! But she doesn't qualify in this particular catagory.
Mix never receives the proper credit today. He was clearly among the biggest Silent Stars of them all! Because He made only Western's He is continuously overlooked by most everybody! It doesn't help that his surviving films are far from easy to see. None of them are currently on DVD.
Gilbert one would expect to rate at least this high, if not number 1. In the category of the type of films He was making, some might say Adventure-Romance, or more properly Romance-Adventure, He was a clear cut number one at the time.
Harold Lloyd, is well Harold Lloyd! His limitless appeal knew no boundaries! But Harold being a died in the wool perfectionist, and a notoriously slow worker, only released one film a year starting in 1925 with THE FRESHMAN, FOR HEAVENS SAKE in 1926, THE KID BOTHER in 1927, and SPEEDY in 1928. So under the circumstances, it's relatively hard to believe that He still rated this highly. Although all of those films were ligitimate Blockbusters, that ran for weeks on end allot of places.
Richard Dix??? This is certainly the biggest stunner of the bunch to me! I have seen relatively few of this guys Silent films. In all honesty, I would have probably expected this spot to be occupied by Charles Farrell, or Ramon Novarro.
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So who were the Top 5 Most Popular Male Stars of 1928, at least according to Moving Picture World Magazine? You might be very surprised at this list:
1. Lon Chaney
2. Tom Mix
3. John Gilbert
4. Harold Lloyd
5. Richard Dix
A brief analysis,
Chaney obviously had a broader demographic of appeal, and bigger fan base than virtually any other Male Star at the time. He received way more votes than anyone from distributors and theater owners. Anyone that is except for Clara Bow, who left them all in the dust! But she doesn't qualify in this particular catagory.
Mix never receives the proper credit today. He was clearly among the biggest Silent Stars of them all! Because He made only Western's He is continuously overlooked by most everybody! It doesn't help that his surviving films are far from easy to see. None of them are currently on DVD.
Gilbert one would expect to rate at least this high, if not number 1. In the category of the type of films He was making, some might say Adventure-Romance, or more properly Romance-Adventure, He was a clear cut number one at the time.
Harold Lloyd, is well Harold Lloyd! His limitless appeal knew no boundaries! But Harold being a died in the wool perfectionist, and a notoriously slow worker, only released one film a year starting in 1925 with THE FRESHMAN, FOR HEAVENS SAKE in 1926, THE KID BOTHER in 1927, and SPEEDY in 1928. So under the circumstances, it's relatively hard to believe that He still rated this highly. Although all of those films were ligitimate Blockbusters, that ran for weeks on end allot of places.
Richard Dix??? This is certainly the biggest stunner of the bunch to me! I have seen relatively few of this guys Silent films. In all honesty, I would have probably expected this spot to be occupied by Charles Farrell, or Ramon Novarro.
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ugaarte,
So just how big was Billie Dove in the late 20's you might ask? Well, believe it or not, a 1928 distributor's magazine ranked Her as the 3rd biggest money-maker in Hollywood among all female Stars, behind only Clara Bow, and Colleen Moore, and well ahead of Greta Garbo, and my Corinne Griffith!
This lovely gal also made the top 10, listed at number 7! Here's Marion!
*Marion Davies, Just Thinking*
*Marion Davies, Very Shere Dress*
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Mike,
I have an ATI All IN WONDER card. However, all you really need is a player software installed like Power DVD, to create captures. There is also Nero-player, Inter-active DVD, and a host of others. You probably already have something along these lines in your hard-drive?
As long as you have Flash-video installed as well, any of those programs should be able to take snapshots of your DVD's.
So just how big was your beloved Billie Dove in the late 20's? Well, believe it or not, a 1928 distributor's magazine ranked Her as the 3rd biggest money-maker among all female Stars, behind only Clara Bow, and Colleen Moore, and well ahead of Greta Garbo, and my Corinne Griffith! This lovely gal also made the top 10, at the number 7 spot! Here's Marion!
*Marion Davies Just Thinking.*
*Marion Davies, in very shere dress.*
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Mark, Everyone,
OK now, here is a terrific photo I ran across, that illustrates quite clearly just how popular Anita Page really was back in the day!
And in the immortal lyrics of the great Irving Berlin, ".....But You Forgot To Remember"! So hey, TCM just take a gander at this!!!*
*Anita Page Swamped with Fan-Mail! "Help, I can barely move!"*
*Our Anita is obviously Heartbroken that She never received a typical "TCM REMEMBERS" segment. How awful! The Poor, Poor Girl!*
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OK now folks, here is a terrific photo I ran across, that illustrates quite clearly just how popular Anita Page really was back in the day!
And in the immortal lyrics of the great Irving Berlin, ".....But You Forgot To Remember"! So hey, TCM just take a gander at this!!!*
*Anita Page Swamped with Fan-Mail! "Help, I can barely move!"*
*Our Anita is obviously Heartbroken that She never received a typical "TCM REMEMBERS" segment. How awful! The Poor, Poor Girl!*
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OK now folks, here is a terrific photo I ran across, that illustrates quite clearly just how popular Anita Page really was back in the day!
And in the immortal lyrics of the great Irving Berlin, ".....But You Forgot To Remember"! So hey, TCM just take a gander at this!!!*
*Anita Page Swamped with Fan-Mail! "Help, I can barely move!"*
*Our Anita is obviously Heartbroken that She never received a typical "TCM REMEMBERS" segment. How awful! The Poor, Poor Girl!*
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*OK folks, Here is a terrific photo I ran across, that illustrates quite clearly just how popular Anita Page really was back in the day!
And in the immortal lyrics of the great Irving Berlin, ".....But You Forgot To Remember"! So hey, TCM just take a look at this!!!*
*Anita Page Swamped with Fan-Mail! "Help, I can barely move!"*
*Our Anita is obviously Heartbroken that She never received a typical "TCM REMEMBERS" segment. How awful! The Poor, Poor Girl!*
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Ed, Aaron, Scott, Etc.
OK now, here is a terrific photo I ran across, that illustrates quite clearly just how popular Anita Page really was back in the day!
And in the immortal lyrics of the great Irving Berlin, ".....But You Forgot To Remember"! So hey, TCM just take a gander at this!!!*
*Anita Page Swamped with Fan-Mail! "Help, I can barely move!"*
*Our Anita is obviously Heartbroken that She never received a typical "TCM REMEMBERS" segment. How awful! The Poor, Poor Girl!*
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Jorge,
I'm afraid that I coudn't tell you. I have never seen the full-length version of A WOMAN OF PARIS! Could never find a copy anyplace. I know Image released a DVD of the complete cut, but it has been out of print for years.
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Wendy,
Wow, almost all of your captures are great. One of them lost a little focus, but the rest look just wonderful.
Image Entertainment put out a slightly longer version of A WOMAN OF PARIS on Laser-disc, and briefly on DVD several years ago. This version was restored by David Shepard, but I have never seen it. For the 1976 re-issue, which is what TCM shows and Warner's has on DVD, a few sequences were cut that were in the original film.
Oddly enough, I just got a better copy of MAN, WOMAN, & SIN today, than what I had previously. The problem is the persistent flicker, and that the picture repeatedly fluctuates from a well lighted to dark image? Something I have very rarely seen, and I have no idea what cause this. Otherwise it would look quite good. That's why I wish Warner's would provide TCM with a fresh-transfer, and score this film for broadcast.
Also obtained a copy of the restored KIKI (First National, 1925), Directed by Clarence Brown. with Norma Talmadge, and Ronald Coleman. The print really looks great. A few Talmadge Sisters films recently underwent restoration, and this is one of them. Maybe Kino, or Milestone will release a few of these on official DVD soon? That would really be cool!
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Michelle,
THE COSSACKS I have since learned had been broadcast on France 3 back in 2001. That is were my copy orginated from. A very nice print. I am still rather surprised though that by this time TCM has never run this movie before?
Interestingly enough, France 3 is the same outfit that will be running BARDLEYS THE MAGNIFICENT next month! In addition, much like BARDLEYS, it appears that THE COSSACKS was also considered lost at one time? I am not sure when, or where the print was found? I wish I did have the details.
By the way, does the entire disc play normally? I had a few burns that proved defective. The picture froze up with about 5 minutes left to go. I have subsequently burned a new master, because I still had the complete program in the hard-drive. Now it seems to be error free.
I haven't seen all of MAN, WOMAN & SIN yet. It appears that very good print material still exists of this feature though too.
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Wendy,
Yes, the film was lost for over 40 years. Since the MGM Vault fire in 1965. However, last year an incomplete print turned up in France. The third reel is missing, but the rest of the film was in-tact. David Sheperd's Film Preservation Associates, and Lobster films of Paris, have restored all of the surviving elements. My friend Christine who lives in France has already seen the film, She commented on it's beauty and clarity. So I expect it looks fabulous!
Now guys what about MAN, WOMAN & SIN, and THE COSSACKS? Both films survive in excellent prints, and in complete form. So when are we finally going to see these two vastly underrated and overlooked Gilbert features on TCM???
BARDELYS THE MAGNIFICENT (1926)
in Silent
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Ed,
Did you watch THE SHOW though as it was broadcast on TCM? It's actually quite good, and the print is great. I know you had a poor quality version before hand, and couldn't get into it.
I'd give anything for a re-mastered print of MAN, WOMAN& SIN., or at least a top flight transfer. THE COSSACKS as you known, has become a fast favorite.
MONTE CRISTO was a Fox release, but is apparently owned not by Warner's, or Fox, but by SONY? That according to Bruce Calvert. Corporate ties though, make it eligeble for the set. As the picture is a 1922 release it would be considered "Public-Domain" but not really, if SONY has the only print around? I need to find some posters for both of these movies.