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Thelma, Actually, the version that Kino had on DVD for years, and what TCM shows are not the same. TCM has been airing the Photoplay productions version of BOAN. The older Kino DVD is nowhere near as good a print transfer. However, Kino just released the movie on Blu-ray and that print is probably superior to what TCM shows. Not having seen it I can't say. It does have a different music score than before. The just released Blu-ray has a new scoring arrangment and recording from Rodney Sauer and Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra. The may still be an alternate track of the the re-created 1915 Orchestra score that was on the previous editions. I am not sure

After my late Mother started having seizures in 1998, less than a year after my Father passed away I moved in with her to keep an eye on her. She was not allowed to drive, so I had to take her places. I recorded her long time favorite soap ALL MY CHILDREN every week day on Soap Net for her to see. ONE LIFE TO LIVE ran after ALL MY CHILDREN and I soon discovered it was a much better show. Mom got into it as well. So I stated recording that too. Thus I got into these shows while I was looking out for my Mother. So don't appreciate the sneid remarks. I strongly disagree that these soaps are just as dense as the reallity programs. That is far from the case. I followed ALL MY CHILDREN up until about 2006. When Dixie Martin died from eating Poisoned Pine Apple Pancakes, that was all I could take. Worse story angle ever conceived of. After that I saw some bits and pieces of episodes here and there, but never really watched the show again.

As some of you probably know the ABC televison network has cancelled the long running Soap Opera series ONE LIFE TO LIVE after 43 years on the air. The final 3 episodes air the rest of this week. I have been watching/recording this since 1998 and I think it's probably the best soap ever on TV. I am very sad to see it taken off for another stupid reality show. I will miss the show greatly, and it is about my last link to commercial network Television after the C W Cancelled SMALLVILLE last year. Would anyone else care to lament their extreme hated of the ABC network here, and reflect on the series? I hope that their heads of programming are fired and ABC and Disney go completely Belly up! I sure wouldn't shed any tears if it happened. Serves 'em right!

Boleroor, Sorry, My comment was not directed specifically at Mr. Brooks, but the overall irony of the situation. I don't think he is generally abreast of what has been selected recently either. Meantime, your reverence for STRANGELOVE doesn't change the fact that it was just on TCM for the umpteenth time a few weeks ago. .

:0 Whoops, I meant "Guest Programmers". But seriously, can we go at least three or four months without someone picking *DR. STRANGELOVE* again? All but maybe one of the other 4 films tonights guest has selected is frenquently chosen too. I ask again, haven't these people seen any other movies? In all honest, I find the whole thing pretty depressing.

The so called Politically Correct mentality is simply put one of the worst things that has ever happened in this Country. it's destroying America. Rather than making it a better place to live.

Bronxi, Wendy, Thanks,. Yeah Jorge sent me a Cake too in an E-mail. A real one, even had my name on it. Searching around tonight, I ran across about 4 or 5 Renee Adoree pics that were new to me. I will get those up here sometime soon. Sorry, you missed the excellent French Silent FACES OF CHILDREN this week. I guess Netflix still has this from what I was told. I seem to recall us talking about this movie in the past though? Couple other Colleen Moore pics. This time with the Classic Image intact. *"The Young Impossibly Thin Flapper!"* *"Goodness, "This Is Even More Shocking Then Elinor Glyn!"* *"Oh The Shame!"- From WHY BE GOOD? (1929)*

Most people prefer the 1951 version with Alistair Sim. My favorite live action version has always been SCROOGE (1970) with Albert Finny. Partly because it's the one I grew up with. Yes, it's a musical but so brilliantly done. As for animated versions, the two versions of my youth that ran on CBS several times a year in the afternoon's between Thanksgiving in Christmas, blow out of the water any more recent animated versions. The best animated version ever produced by Chuck Jones won an Emmey award in 1971 it ran on ABC in the evenings. Alistair Sim reprized his roll as Scrooge here.

:| Is there any update on who won copies of the Harold Lloyd book?

Thelma, Your posts are always so extensive. I have both Busby Berkeley collections on DVD that were released a few years ago. Amazing production value and brilliant staging. Imagine 98% of this would be done with CGI today! Yuck! What a horrible and sobering thought. Those DVD sets are great and everyone who loves the classics should own them.

Wendy, Oh yeah, that's right. It is Corinne Griffith. Great picture. Not used to the blonde hair. Say, take a look at this. 4 Howard Hawks Silents being screened live over the next few weeks at a live retrospective in Berkeley California. Including FIG LEAVES, FAZIL, and another title I have never seen before called PAID TO LOVE. These are rarely ever seen. h4. [berkeley, CA: 4 Hawks silents at PFA Jan 17-27|http://nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11212#p74851] The Pacific Film Archive has a large Hawks retrospective starting January 13, [Howard Hawks: The Measure of Man|http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/filmseries/hawks], that includes the following silents (quoted from the linked page): Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:00 p.m. [Fig Leaves|http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/film/FN19306] Howard Hawks (U.S., 1926). Introduced by Marilyn Fabe. Judith Rosenberg on piano. Fashion is the original sin in Hawks’s second feature film, his earliest that still survives. “(An) effervescent blend of sly sex comedy and riotous slapstick. . . . Though the film is silent, Hawks’s epigrammatic rapidity is already in evidence” (New Yorker). (c. 70 mins) Friday, January 20, 2012 7:00 p.m. [Fazil|http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/film/FN19307] Howard Hawks (U.S., 1928). Judith Rosenberg on piano. This rare Hawks silent travels between Paris, Venice, and “Araby—untouched by the ages” as it follows the ill-fated romance between an Arabian prince (Charles Farrell) and a freedom-loving Parisienne (Greta Nissen). (75 mins) Tuesday, January 24, 2012 7:00 p.m. [A Girl in Every Port|http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/film/FN19308] Howard Hawks (U.S., 1928). Introduced by Marilyn Fabe. Judith Rosenberg on piano. An early incarnation of a seminal Hawks theme—a “love story” between two men (Victor McLaglen and Robert Armstrong)—with Louise Brooks as the woman who almost manages to break up the bromance. (64 mins) Friday, January 27, 2012 7:00 p.m. [Paid to Love|http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/film/FN19309] Howard Hawks (U.S., 1927). Judith Rosenberg on piano. A Parisian demimondaine is recruited to romance the crown prince of an imaginary kingdom in this rarely seen, visually lavish silent. George O’Brien and Virginia Valli star, but caddish William Powell usurps the movie. (74 mins)

Wendy, Thanks. I know that still but can't place it for some reason? What happened to ugarrate? She hasn't been here for weeks. Is she having trouble accessing this part of the board again? A couple more Colleen Moore photos that don't support her stereotype. *"Snooty Garbo Impression- "I Vant To Be Alone!"* *"Beware Sweet Twinks!"*

Yes, believe it or not, Colleen Moore with Three very different looks than her Classic Image. Please beg my indulgence. It's my Birthday and I'll Colleen if I want to!

*Betty Compson- "Long Strawberry Blonde Hair"* *Billie Dove with Lionel Belmore- "Now You Shall be Mine My Pretty One! Haw, Haw, Haw!!!"*

*Betty Compson- "Long Strawberry Blonde Hair"* *Billie Dove with Lionel Belmore- "Now your Mine My Pretty One! Haw, Haw, Haw!!!"*

Bronxi, *MERRY CHRISTMAS! Note: Tomorrow January 7th is the Eastern Orthodox Christmas. So these ladies are right on time! For Tonight is Christmas Eve!* *Esther Ralston-"Christmas Comes But Twice A Year!"* *Clara Clause-"House Top Hopping"*

> {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote}lol! T, I don't know why I resisted watching this movie ever since it was restored and has since appeared a couple of times on TCM (and on DVD). After all, Lubitsch is my second favorite director and this is one of his most famous, if not the most famous of his silent films. It may have been the stars (I've nothing against them, they just aren't favorites) or the setting (yet he's made so many movies in this world) or the plot just didn't sound like anything that thrilling. But I should have trusted the director. I don't normally associate such affecting emotional poignancy with Lubitsch and I'd have missed a very, very special work in his cannon if I'd continued to ignore *The Student Prince*. > > I still don't know if you'll really like this kind of story and emotions, but as a true blue CineMaven, it can't hurt to watch a true silent classic made by a master. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I might add Carl Davis' score was really lovely, too...perfectly in tune with the emotions in the scenes. > Alas, *THE STUDENT PRINCE IN OLD HEIDELBERG* has far from been restored. The Thames Silents version that TCM shows was produced clear back in 1984 for British TV. It was prepared from a acetate Safety-transfer that likely dates back to the 1950's. So unless more recent work has been done that I don't know about, it could easily be given a fresh transfer and new broadcast master and look much better today. Closer to the original qulaity of the fine grain Nitrate original of 1927. I imagine existing materials are at least 3 generations removed for the camera negative and probably more like 4 or 5. Given that it is one of Ernst Lubitsch finest films, probably his best surviving American Silent I would think there would be more interest in a comprehensive restoration being done. Incidentally, have you seen *THE MARRIAGE CIRCLE (1924)?* It has a great All-Star Cast, and is really the film that established Lubitsch as Top director in States after his leaving Germany.It used to be on DVD in gorgeous print (much Crisper than Old Heidelberg), from Image Entertainment, with a great Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra score. Don't know if it is still available or not? Could be out of print by this time. Another Lubitsch Silent that was recently restored is *THREE WOMEN (1924)* with Pauline Frederick, May McAvoy and Marie Prevost. I have been hoping this might eventually pop up on TCM. The film was originally released by Warner Brothers. The same with *SO THIS IS PARIS* (1926). The latter which aired in beautifully a restored print on TCM France in 2010. My most wanted of Lubitsch Silent films has to be the seldom screened *FORBIDDEN PARADISE* with Pola Negri, Rod La Rocque, Adolphe Menjou, and Pauline Starke. I've seen a condensed version of this and it is fabulous. Sadly, Paramount continues to surpress the complete picture for anything other than an occasional live screening event. Very difficult film to see.

; Legend has it that the Clara Clause Giant magical Toy filled sled is propelled each Christmas by the power of Six flying Saint Bernard's! *Clara Clause- "Boy, I'll Never Trust Those Sled Dogs Again!"*

VP19. I'm inclined to agree that though Marion Davies has been described as the first Screw Ball Comedienne. The title more probably goes to Constance Talmadge. Herself a heavy influence on Marion's later Silent comedies. If you have seen THE LOVE EXPERT (1920) it could easily be deemed a Silent Screwball Comedy. And she made several films like this. Than you have Colleen Moore, Marie Prevost, Phyllis Haver. They could all very well be considered in that same category.

midnight08, Warner Brothers, or various archives holding the films for Warner's may have superior 35 millimeter prints of most of these films. But the broadcast masters are probably all around 30 years old. So better transfers could definitely be made. Look how crisp her Silents THE PATSY, and THE RED MILL both are. These are from much more recent broadcast masters. And probably processed from new prints struck of camera negatives found at George Eastman House in the late 90's. So many of Marion's Silent films have never been seen on TCM. Even the biggest titles such as LITTLE OLD NEW YORK (1923), and BEVERLY OF GRAUSTARK (1926).

:| Nothing is happening in FIVE AND TEN Except virtually endless Talk. Sounds more like a Radio drama than a Movie. BLONDIE OF THE FOLLIES is much better.

Sadly, most of these prints are from only very mediocre Safety-transfers, probably struck in the 50's or 60's. But I seem to recall BLONDIE OF THE FOLLIES, and PEG O' MY HEART both looking very good. Crisper and clearer than the others. The former is also significant as Billie Dove's final film and she is great in it. FIVE AND TEN is disappointing. Even with Leslie Howard, and Mary Duncan. By and large, Marion's Silents are allot better than her talkies. "FOLLIES" and "PEG" being exceptions.

LuckyDan, To the contrary, The original 1926 KIKI Starring Norma Talmadge and Ronald Colman was a huge hit in it's day. Why do you think it was remade? We have talked about this film many times here. It stayed in Theaters for months. That didn't happen often in those days. It was actually one of Norma Talmadge most successful films. I still haven't seen the 1931 version.

VP19, Well, I just find it inexplicable that the Photo-play Productions version of *THE WEDDING MARCH* which debuted on British Television clear back in 1998 has never made it to TCM. I posted a couple scenes on TCM CFU a long time ago. Probably almost two years. The Technicolor sequence, and "*Shower Of Blossoms"* Please go take a look see. Terrific film. One of Carl Davis best Musical scores as well. It's To bad the second half of the story, entitled *THE HONEYMOON* is lost.I actually have three versions of *THE WEDDING MARCH* Gaylor Carter Theater Orgon. from the 1985 VHS release, another copy with the original J. S. Zamecnik Movie-tone track. Besides the Carl Davis one. It's long overdue to be seen on TCM. The Criterion DVD has been long delayed. And no telling if that will contain the Davis score or not, if and when it is finally released?

Leslie, I'm sorry, I keep getting these two threads switched around. A brief reminder, there are A bunch of Marion Davies movies on TCM tomorrow. Actually, this morning. No Silents, all sound films. Don't know for sure what everyone has already seen among the group. THE FLORODORA GIRL Has some scenes in Technicolor. Although I don't remember it very well. NOT SO DUMB I don't remeber at all. Not sure I have seen FIVE AND TEN? That doesn't ring any bells either. Can someone shed some light on those perhaps? BLONDIE OF THE FOLLIES is very good, and I think it was Billie Dove's final film too? Doubly significant for that reason. Dove was once one of the biggest Stars in the business, and now her films are very difficult to see. If I recall correctly, it's a very nice print. Isn't shown on TCM very often either. PEG O' MY HEART is really good, Marion gives a terrific performance. Though maybe a little to old for the part by the time. I'm not so sure I have never seen HEARTS DIVIDED before or not? OPERATOR 13 and CAIN AND MABEL I have not seen in a long time. Will have to watch those again to comment.