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Ed, It's a really unusual photo. But it is supposed to be Mae. The graphic was very soft and hard to do much with. I'm registered on Face Book, but rarely go there. Plus I always forget my password. The link won't help because my E-mail opens up Internet Explorer, and I use Firefox for browsing. Explorer does not work well at all. I really need Windows 7 badly. I'm going to re-post these Swanson Christmas pics because they do not seem to be in either of these two threads from last year. Must have been uploaded in another thread? Here is the first one of the batch. *"Gloria In Toy Land"*

*Laura La Plante-"Rosy Cheeks"*

*Mae Murray-"A Toy Or Two"*

Poor little fella is getting squeezed! *"Mary Holding A Small Bird"* *Pickford More Provocative Than Usual from Bob Fells Old Hollywood in Color.com*

Lynn, How about this for a theory. Gilbert suffered from a couple really bad movies in a row. REDEMPTION being the second of these. After that he wasn't exactly getting top drawer material either. DOWNSTAIRS is really an excellent script that Jack wrote himself. But even that was far from the Gilbert audiences had known and loved. Clara Bow also started falling victim to her being treated like last years model in 1930 by Paramount. And not getting choice assignments. Although it was really the scandal sheets that brought her career crashing down, She was still very popular before hand.

ugaarate, Your going to like this one. Very cute pic. *Colleen Moore And Curious George-"Ramblin' Down The Road"*

Never trust a Polish Lady with a Gun! *"Pistol Packin' Pola"* *Colleen Moore-Unusually Subdued in WE MODERNS (1925)*

Ed, Did you expect Eleanor Boardman to have such a small voice? MAMBA was just screened at some event a week or two ago, so that must have been recently restored. Did you see the post about RAMONA (1928) undergoing restoration? Hey, I saw THE LOVES OF PHARAOH and was blown away. An Amazing film with simply gorgeous cinematography. The sets are phenomenal. This is one of the best Silent restorations ever done. And a full recreation of the original score written for the movie. Will, see if the new WINGS can compare. Hope TCM will run this.

UHG! Was really disappointed in REDEMPTION. Renee Adoree is billed second after John Gilbert, but unless a reel or two is missing she only appears in about 4 scenes. Stuck in yet another demeaning Gypsy role, Jack never even kisses her that I recall. And she is not present when his character dies. Though he calls out her name? What the heck? 90% of why I wanted to see this was for Renee. She was so good in CALL OF THE FLESH. Here her talent, charm, and beauty was wasted. No wonder that Gilbert hated this film so much and did not want it ever released. The writing was just awful, and the story made no sense. What happen to the Son? He is born and the matter is simply dropped? Eleanor Boardman's Broadway coached Moonings were all I could stand. I doubt if she sounded anything like that. Renee was much more natural, and got hardly any screen time. Conrad Nagel had a great speaking voice of course, but he is given nothing much to say. The brilliance of these Stars Silent films is laid to waste. REDEMPTION Is only of interest as an example of just how bad an early talkie could be. Very poorly directed with no real plot of any kind. What a shame. At least I finally got to see it. HIS GLORIOUS NIGHT has to be better.

No. REDEMPTION was shelved because Gilbert hated it. He begged MGM never to release it. But after HIS GLORIOUS NIGHT flopped MGM went ahead and released it anyway.Many Silent Stars fell victim to ridiculous high-priced Broadway voice coaches, many who probably deliberately tried to sabotage careers. Sadly, Gilbert was one of these who fell prey to them. So did Renee Adoree. But she proved her voice and acting was just fine in THE CALL OF ALL FLESH where she gives a wonderful engaging performance. In Dolores Costello's early talkies she sounds outrageous. But before long she realized what the voice coches were a joke and got rid of them. Good Heavens, listent to what Janet Gaynor sounds like in SUNNY SIDE UP! In reality her voice very different. Conrad Nagel had an excellent speaking voice, but his career stalled just as fast as Jack's did.

Just in case anyone forgot, and I see no reminders posted, *REDEMPTION* which was rescheduled in September is on TCM this morning at 5.00 A. M Central, 6.00 AM Eastern time. This was John Gilbert's first talkie, not the first released bu the first that was produced. And it has a powerful supporting cast with Eleanor Boardman, Conrad Nagel and Renee Adoree. Not seen on TCM in over a decade, this is a very rare showing. I look forward to getting a nice recording. Hope it works out.

Wendy, There is a whole new Box set an Arbuckle Anthology that is being worked on now. A big thread about this on Nitrateville over the past few weeks. I'll look it up.

Rickey, Here is more information from Bor Enots *"The "they" is me, and no bombshell. RAMONA has been known to be in Prague for years. We borrowed the existing material (a mix of nitrate and safety) and are making a new preservation negative and show print. We will be translating the titles back to English.... so if anyone has a continuity or script let me know. No definite timeline on when the work will be completed. The basic preservation within the next month or so.... intertitles may take a bit longer.* *Next up is LONDON AFTER MIDNIGHT.... oh, you know I am kidding about that!!! Wouldn't have time to work on it if we had it with all the work we are doing on HATS OFF. Okay I am joking again.... just my smart mouth way of saying that really anything is possible!! Those films could show up at any time. We recently picked up six reels from a theater in Ohio and among the reels was an until now lost Alice Guy Blache short. A few months ago Brent Walker and I were winding through some unidentified nitrate and rediscovered two otherwise non-existent Roscoe Arbuckle shorts!!* *Add me to the list of those that believe while there is a very long list of lost films there is also a pretty long one of films that are just hiding.* *Rob*

Here is a very interesting photo.Clarie Windsor was considered one of the screen's most glamorous Stars. Yet she is very little known today. In-fact, I have seen next to nothing of her films. At one time she was engaged to Charlie Chaplin. The two never married, but he remained good frinds with Windsor much as he did former leading lady Edna Purvience. The same can not be said about several of the ladies that he actually did Marry. *Claire Windsor At Lakeside*

Here's a lovely portrait of America's Sweetheart, from Bob Fells Old Hollywood in Color. Com *Mary Pickford-"Penny For A Daydream"*

Wendy, Here is a Trade Ad for Clara's 1928 feature THE FLEET'S IN. Sadly another lost film.

Wendy, *ROSE OF THE GOLDEN WEST (1927)* is supposed to be in the same Czech Archive as *RAMONA.* Presumably a fragile Nitrate print.Hopefully, something will be done with it before it is to late. Would love to see this movie too. Did you catch this still I posted a few weeks ago?

Yet another rare M D pic. Not colorized, but rather taken from a Multi-hand Tinted postcard probably dating to the late 20's.

Wendy, Here is the Clara Bow portrait I was not able to post the other day. *"Farm Fresh Female"*

ugaarate, I'm wondering if someone else was originally cast in Nils Asther's part as the Prince and later replaced? This could be an earlier production still. Although it is still more likely the actor who played the valet. Glad you like the Jacqueline Logan portrait. She was very pretty. Here is a rare still of Marion Davies in delightful costume. *Marion as TILLIE THE TOILER (1927)*

Wendy, I've got a couple lobby-cards. I will look for those tonight. Meantime here is a poster.

Rodney Sauer has confirmed that his renown Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra has scored the new version of William Desmond Taylor's long unseen HUCKLEBERRY FINN (1920) which will premiere on TCM in Prime-time on the 14th of this month. The first film adaptation of the famous Mark Twain novel, was restored by George Eastman House only a couple three years ago. It has never been on Television before, nor released on home video. The picture has not even been seen at live screenings until just the past few years. A great success at the time, it is largely unknown since it's original release. A Nitrate print was discovered clear back in 1962 in a Dutch archive, with Dutch title-cards. In 2005 a grant was issued to Eastman House in order to restore the titles to English, and transfer the film to Modern Safety-stock, and digital media. So this is truly one of the rarest of the rare. I'm impressed that TCM is broadcasting this long forgotten film from the Eastmn House Collection and has commissioned a new musical score.

Some huge breaking news. The 1928 version of RAMONA Starring Dolores Del Ri, and Warner Baxter is in the early stages of restoration as we speak. A major Box-office hit in it's day, helped along by a popular song published two years earlier This is still generally referenced as a lost film by most sources. However, a Nitrate print was discovered in a Czech archive in 2002. It took several years to obtain funding, but now it has happened, I have confirmation from a film preservationist that the project is underway. The first step is probably to transfer as much of the film as possible to acetate Safety-stock from the original nitrate. In any case, what we do know if it is in the lab right now. As soon as I have additional information on exactly what lab, and who is in charge of the project I will post it here. Hope to find out something in the next few days.I never thought I would ever see this film. But who knows, in a couple of years it could premiere on TCM, or by released by Kino or someone on home video. RAMONA was released by United Artists. So I am not certain who currently owns the copyright to this movie.

Another Still from *ROSE OF THE GOLDEN WEST (1927)* *Gilbert Roland And Mary Astor- "One Last Kiss"*

Johanna, I stumbled across a package last weekend that you sent me some time ago. Put it in a drawer and forgot to open it. Had no idea you had sent it to me. Thanks very much. Most of the titles I did not recognize off hand so I don't think that I had any of them. Here is one of the Veidt' portraits. I did not like the results and thus did not post the photo. Than I forgot about it. The hat is all wrong. He looks like Captain Harito Hornblower here are something? You will probably know more about the still than I do. *Conrad Veidt-"Regel Sailor"*