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midnight08, I'm looking at the recent Kino DVD version of Barrymore's *JEKYLL AND HYDE* now. I knew that it was not the same, but did not remember the details. First off the print transfer is much, much better quality than what TCM aired last night. Far sharper and clearer. And it doesn't look like it was a 16 millimeter dupe, but a nice 35 Millimeter master was used. Also It does have a Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra score. Not the horrid discordant notes score as Scottman put it, that the picture was broadcast with last night. Question beckons, why didn't TCM run the Kino release? I'm pretty sure the last time it was on, they did air the Kino one? But the Image Entertainment DVD release would have been fine too. Anything over what they did run. I'm going to post a couple clips with the Mont Alto score on TCM CFU, so people can see and hear the difference. Before doing so, I will check with Rodney Sauer. Kino should also be unhappy, because people will mistake what was run last night for what they are selling. And that just is not the case at all. Have to say that I am extremely disappointed that TCM would commission a new exclusive score for this movie and a very poor one, when it already had a very nice score. Meanwhile dozens of other Silents are in the Warner's vault awaiting musical scores so they can be broadcast for the firs time. What a wasted opportunity, not to mention un-warranted funds.

No, Mont Alto Motion Picture Ochestra scored *ZORRO* and did a wonderful job in doing so. They did not score the Barrymore film for TCM believe me. I have almost all of their scores that have been released on DVD and their work is outstanding in comparison to this. I think Rodney Sauer would be seriously offended that you implied this was one of Mont Alto's scores. It said who the group was after the film, but I could not read that fast. Mont Alto specializes in highly authentic Photoplay Movie Mood music. *JEKYLL AND HYDE* tonight was about as non-authentic for the period as it gets.

No, The original score was not the more traditional Organ music. Organ was never really traditional for Silents anyway. Certainly not in 1920. I first saw this with a William Perry piano score, very good. Later with a theater organ score, and more recently with a pretty good small orchestra score. This was none of those. If you haven''t see it, be sure to record Fairbanks *THE MARK OF ZORRO* this morning. It is a 100 times better Music, print, and movie. Released the same year. Gorgeous restoration stuck from the original camera Negative. Very fine score by Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra. Incidentally, Fairbanks originated the idea of "*The Mark Of Zorro"* There was no Z in the Pulp story that it was based on. Doug doesn't get the credit He deserves for inventing this concept. Used in every adaption of Zorro ever since.

Good Lord! Where did this score come from to *JEKYLL AND HYDE?* It sounds like it was done by the same person who desecrated Chaney's *THE PENALTY!* Definitely not the same score that they have aired with this the last time it aired. Or the two other scores that the film ran with before that. Any of those would be welcome over this stuff. On the bright side all hail *"THE SMALL TOWN IDOL!"* Now I want to see the complete film! This was just a excerpt. I think the original release was 5 or 6 reels.

SansFin, If someone had chosen Colleen Moore's *HER WILD OAT (1927)* I would have definitely voted for that person.

I'm sorry I didn't know that I was allowed to vote here? Are there only three contestants this time? I'll go back over the lists, but struggling to drink in all this. And the small print doesn't help. I guess I'm going with Lonesome Polecat, because He picked included the 1923 version of *THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.*

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I wonder, could this have been restored from the print at Gosfilmofond? All indications are that HUCK FINN was long considered to be a lost film. Obviously some stuff previously was exported from this Russian Archive. the surviving fragment of RIDDLE GWAN for example with Bill Hart and Lon Chaney. According to Silent Era.com. Apparently only one reel survived I'm sorry to say. Maybe we were much more fortunate with HUCK FINN as the film looks to be there about complete? If so, I wonder what else might have been included in the earlier shipment from Gosfilmofond?

Wendy, It's strange because I had never even heard of this movie before until just a few weeks ago. And now here it is already fully restored! Lewis Sargent is Huck Finn. I have only seen him previously in *SOUL OF YOUTH* which is on the Treasures From The American Film Archives Three DVD set a few years back. But who cares who Huck is? This is the film debut of Esther Ralston! That makes it a landmark movie in my book! Gordon Griffith portrays Tom Sawyer. Apparently the materials must have come from the *Gosfilmofond Russian Archive Collection.* So *HUCKLEBERRY FINN (1920)* was indeed long considered a lost film. A few titles including the fragment of that 1918 *RIDDLE GWAN* with William S. Hart and Lon Chaney, had previously been shipped back to the states with little or no publicity in digital copies. The Digital transfer was used to make up a new 35 millimeter print. But the Nitrate is still in Russia. I wonder what else was in the original batch? Did you see that list? I posted it here a few weeks ago. Here it is again.I put this together narrowing down some of the rarer stuff. Most of these films in the Gosfilmofond collection probably exist no place else in the world. *Eye For Eye (1918) Alla Nazimova* *Red Hot Dollars (1918) Charles Ray* *Wolves Of The Rail (1918) Starring and Direted by William S. Hart* *Riddle Gwan (1918) William S. Hart, Lon Chaney* *Behind The Door (1919) Hobart Bosworth, Jane Novak* *Bill Henry (1919) Charles Ray, Edith Roberts* *His Majesty, the American (1919) Douglas Fairbanks* *Egg Crate Wallop (1919) Charles Ray, Colleen Moore* *The Red Lantern (1919) Alla Nazimova, Frank Currier* *The Market of Souls (1919) Dorothy Dalton* *John Petticoats (1919) William S. Hart* *Told In The Hills (1919) Wanda Hawley, Monte Blue, Aileen Percy* *Civilian Clothes (1920) Thomas Meighan, Martha Mansfield* *The Restless Sex (1920)-Marion Davies (Possibly her oldest survivng film?)* *Down On The Farm (1920) Ben Turpin, Marie Prevost, Louise Fazenda, Teddy The Dog* *HUCKLEBERRY FINN (1920) Lewis Sargent, Esther Ralston. Directed by William Desmond Taylor* *Idols Of Clay (1920) Mae Murray, Dorothy Cumming* *The Woman Gives (1920) Norma Talmadge, Edmund Lowe* *The Village Sleuth-(1920) Charles Ray* *What's Your Hurry? (1920) Wallace Reid, Lois Wilson* *The Life of the Party- (1920) Roscoe Arbuckle* *Crazy To Marry (1921) Roscoe Arbuckle, Lila Lee* *Li Ting Lang (1920) Sessue Haykawa* *Old Fashioned Boy (1920) Charles Ray* *The Little Clown (1921) Mary Miles Minter, Jack Mulhall* *The Swamp (1921) Sessue Hayakawa, Bessie Love* *A Small Town Idol (1921) Ben Turpin, Phyllis Haver, Marie Prevost* *Forbidden Fruit (1921) Cecel B. De Mille-Agnes Ayres* *Molly 'O (1921)-Mabel Normand* *At The End of The World (1921) Betty Compson, Milton Sills* *Her Husband's Trademark (1922)-Gloria Swanson* *Suzanna (1922)-Mabel Normand (May contain missing footage.)* *Trouble (1922) Jackie Coogan* *The Bonded Woman (1922) Betty Compson, John Bowers, Richard Dix* *Broadway Rose (1922) Mae Murray, Monte Blue* *Siren Call (1922) Dorothy Dalton* *The Woman Who Walked Alone (1922) Dorothy Dalton, Milton Sills, Wanda Hawley* *Tailor Made Man (1922) Charles Ray* *Three Live Ghosts (1922) Anna Q. Nilsson, Norman Kerry* *Anna Christie (1923)-Blanche Sweet* *The Iron Trail (1923)-Reginald Denny* *Little Robinson Crusoe (1923)-Jackie Coogan* *Grumpy (1923)-Theodore Roberts. May McAvoy, Conrad Nagel* *Condemned (1923) Mildred Davis* *Three Weeks (1923)-Aileen Pringle, Conrad Nagel. Directed by Alan Crossland* *The Spanish Dancer (1923) Pola Negri, Antonio Moreno, Adolphe Menjou. Directed by Herbert Brenon* *The Spoilers (1923)-Milton Sills, Anna Q. Nilsson, Barbara Bedford* *The French Doll (1923) Mae Murray, Rod La Rocque* *The Dangerous Maid (1923) Constance Talmadge, Conway Tearle* *To The Last Man (1923) Richard Dix, Lois Wilson* *Black Oxen (1923) Corinne Griffith, Clara Bow. (May contain missing footage.)* *Drifting (1923)-Priscilla Dean, Matt Moore, Wallace Beery. Early appearance by Anna May Wong* *Garrison's Finish (1923) Jack Pickford, Madge Bellamy* *The Girl I Loved (1923)-Charles Ray, Patsy Ruth Miller* *Long Live The King (1923) Jackie Coogan* *In Search of a Thrill (1923) -Viola Dana, Warner Baxter* *What a Wife Learned (1923)-Milton Sills, John Bowers, Maguerite De La Motte* *The Witching Hour (1923) Eliot Dexter. Directed by William Desmond Taylor* *Happiness (1924)-Laurette Taylor, Hedda Hopper. Directed by King Vidor* *The Shooting of Dan McGrew (1924) Barbara La Marr, Lew Cody* *The Mine with The Iron Door (1924) Dorothy Mackaill, Pat O'Mally* *The Mask Of Lopez (1924) Fred Thomson* *Mademoiselle Midnight - (1924) Mae Murray, Monte Blue* *One Night In Rome (1924) Laurette Taylor, Tom Moore, Warner Oland* *A Boy Of Flanders (1924) Jackie Coogan* *Black Lightning (1924) Clara Bow, Thunder The Dog* *Pided Piper Malone (1924)-Thomas Meighan, Lois Wilson* *Singer Jim McKee (1924) William S. Hart, Phyllis Haver, Patsy Ruth Miller* *Women Who Give (1924)-Renee Adoree, Babara Bedford* *The White Moth (1924)-Barbara La Marr, Conway Tearle* *Secrets (1924) Norma Talmadge, Conrad Nagel. Directed by Frank Borzage* *Racing Luck (1924) Monty Banks* *The Heritage of the Desert (1924) Bebe Daniels, Lloyd Hughes* *Side Show of Life (1924) Anna Q. Nilsson. Neil Hamilton* *Captain January (1924)-Baby Peggy Montgomery, Hobart Bosworth, Irene Rich* *Nellie, The Beautiful Cloak Model (1924) -Clarie Windsor, Edmund Lowe, Mae Busch, Raymond Griffith, Hobart Bosworth* *The Fighting Coward (1924)-Mary Astor, Phyllis Haver, Ernest Torrence. Directed by James Cruze.* *Speed (1925) Betty Blythe, Pauline Garon* *Name The Man (1925)-Aileen Pringle, Patsy Ruth Miller Conrad Nagel-Directed by Victor Seastrom* *Wild Horse Stampede (1926) Jack Hoxie, Fay Wray* *Horse Shoes (1927) Monty Banks, Jean Arthur* *Sal of Singapore (1928) Phyllis Haver, Alan Hale* The various discs of Rex Ingram's *THE THREE PASSIONS (1928)* that have been floating around for the past three years were made from a print in this archive, and the film isn't even listed here at all. Kevin Brownlow reportedly found the in-complete print which had long been considered lost, buried among the collection. So I am still holding out for some additional Colleen Moore and Corinne Griffith stuff among others. Here is hoping that is a complete 35 Millimeter print of Rowland V. Lee's *BARBED WIRE* with Pola Negri and Clive Brook.. Because for years it only was known to survive from 16 millimeter elements. The film is listed among their holdings as well. Likewise It would also be wonderful if they had a 35 Millimeter print of Pickford's *TESS OF THE STORM COUNTRY (1922).* The Milestone DVD release is from 16 Millimeter stock. *BLACK OXEN* with Corinne Griffith, and Clara Bow has for decades been missing a couple reels. I think there must be at least 10 or 12 Charles Ray movies in here. Also 5 Jackie Coogan pictures that haven't been seen since they were first released. We could also use a good and complete print of the original 1923 version of *ANNA CHRISTIE* Starring Blanche Sweet. All and all, it's a very impressive collection. We have to remember though that some of these movies may have only a reel or two surviving, while others are full-length and intact. We will probably find out more later in the year. Also it was said that an additional 75 Silent films were to be exported from New-Zealand, on top of the 75 that were shipped to the States last May. Hopefully, those didn't bite the dust in the recent Quake. Hey, I desperately want to see "EGG CRATE WALLOP" and "GRUMPY!!!!"

SansFin, I want De Mille's 1923 version of *THE TEN COMMANDMENTS* on TCM badly. Especially, in the gorgeous new Eastman House restoration reinstating all the original tints, tones and Stencil color. But your cast list doesn't give insight into who Stars in the picture. The real Star is Richard Dix and probably Mrs. John Gilbert Leatrice Joy. Estelle Taylor and Nita Naldi are also in the film. Rod La Rocque was actually a very big Silent Star but is all but forgotten. Theodore Roberts is Moses. Also want to put in a plug for *CHICAGO (1927)* one of the most perfectly preserved Silent films that you will ever see. The movie which Starrs Phyllis Haver and Victor Varconi was transferred from flawless Nitrate found in De Mille's vault.Thanks for mentioning this one. Flicker Alley released the picture on DVD last July. But as you mentioned it has yet to be shown on TCM. Boy, *LOVES OF CARMEN,* how I would love to see that! can I get you to sub *SEVEN CHANCES* instead of COLLEGE? it has never been shown on TCM, *COLLEGE* has run a bunch of times. *SEVEN CHANCES* is far and away my favorite Buster Keaton feature. Why it hasn't aired I am not sure?

Kevin actually received his Oscar in November. Now maybe these Hypocrites will actually rake over the funds to get some of his best restorations on DVD and Blu-ray. But there has been no sign of it happening thus far.

This long unseen film the first motion picture adaption of the famous Mark Twain Novel, apparently marked the movie debut of the lovely Esther Ralston one of the most beautiful actresses of the Silent Era, and Classic Hollywood in general for that matter.Not sure if this was once considered lost, but I do know that it hasn't been publicly screened since it's original release some 91 years ago! Anytime a new restoration is completed of a big budget Silent film it is noteworthy. And here you have the vision of legendary director William Desmond Taylor showcased. Certainly much better known for his Murder, than his movies are today. Great to see some of his work actually surface and see the light of day again. The newly restored version of this film will have it's re-premiere on June 24, 2011 at the George Eastman House. Paolo Cherchi Usai will head a panel discussion on the music and restoration of the picture. Here is a link to the brand new restoration trailer! http://fan.tcm.com/_HUCKLEBERRY-FINN-1920-official-restoration-trailer/video/1537802/66470.html

This long unseen film, the first motion picture adaption of the famous Mark Twain Novel, apparently marked the movie debut of the lovely "American Venus" Esther Ralston. One of the most beautiful actresses of the Silent Era, and Classic Hollywood in general for that matter.Not sure if this was once considered lost, but I do know that it hasn't been publicly screened since it's original release some 91 years ago! Anytime a new restoration is completed of a big budget Silent film it is noteworthy. And here you have the vision of legendary director William Desmond Taylor showcased. Certainly much better known for his Murder, than his movies are today. Great to see some of his work actually surface and see the light of day again. The newly restored version of this film will have it's re-premiere on June 24, 2011 at the George Eastman House. Paolo Cherchi Usai will head a panel discussion on the music and restoration of the picture. Here is a link to the brand new restoration trailer! http://fan.tcm.com/_HUCKLEBERRY-FINN-1920-official-restoration-trailer/video/1537802/66470.html

VP19, This is a brand new 35 Millimeter restoration of *THE GOOSE WOMAN* just completed by UCLA. A project that took 3 years. One of Kevin Brownlow's favorite Silent films I might add. Directed by Clarence Brown, and also Starring Jack Pickford. It's great that they are having a Baby Peggy Montgomery Tribute, and the early Rex Ingram features as well. *EVE'S LEAVES* with Mrs. John Gilbert Leatrice Joy is a terrific film, and that too is a brand new 35 millimeter restoration.

Well, I just watched the Pre-code *SMILIN' THROUGH (1932)* which TCM ran in the wee small hours of the morning the other day. I was completely bowled over by this movie! What a tremendous film. Fabulous performances by the entire cast. One of the best pictures I have ever seen. The story was so compelling the music so hauntingly beautiful. I sure hope that they reschedule this film at a half way decent hour. Can't believe this is not on DVD. Norma Shearer was just amazing. Maybe her best portrayal as Kathleen. Fredric March looked so skinny, but he and Leslie Howard both were terrific. Not ashamed to say that I was moved to tears, over and over. Interestingly, this was actually a remake of the 1922 Silent with Norma Talmadge based on the Stage Play, which was also a monster success. I believe one of her most popular films. Have never seen the original, but would love to. Sure would be wonderful to see both versions on TCM and DVD back to back. Better yet, for them release all three versions on a three disc set. I haven't seen the 1941 version either. But it can't possibly be as good as the 1932 one is I don't think. Apart from *SMILIN' THROUGH* where is the re-mastered version of Ernst Lubitsch masterful *OLD HEIDELBERG (1927),* or *THE STUDENT PRINCE* if you prefer? The film is never mentioned when people talk about the great MGM Silents not yet on DVD.

OK, But it looks like there hasn't been any updates on either *THE PHANTOM CHARIOT* or *THE WEDDING MARCH* in at least and year an a half? So are these still considered in the works? *SJOSTROM, Victor - THE PHANTOM CHARIOT (Last Update: 10/09)* *STROHEIM, Erich von - THE WEDDING MARCH (Last Update: 08/09)* Here is a quote from a guy at *AMPAS* where *THE WEDDING MARCH* is being screened this evening. As part of the Silent Treatment Series. *TSTNews said,* *"Thank you for your comments,* *We really don't know anything about what is in the works for a Criterion release of THE WEDDING MARCH and what version or score will be used. As for the trailer, excerpts from the Photoplay restoration were used because it is very similar to the LOC restored print that is screening tomorrow night. LOC unfortunately did not have a screener available when a loan was requested.* *There are no plans to exhibit HER WILD OAT in the immediate future, but if we do, we'll do our best to get access to clips to assemble a trailer to promote the exhibition.* *Best,* *TST"* *3/2 @ 8:00pm* *Erich von Stroheim's* *"The Wedding March"* ?The public claim that they were sickened by the stark reality of Greed...They want fairy tales...This time I am going to give them illusion with all the pretty trimmings, a fragile play of love.?-- Erich von Stroheim In an art form celebrated for its larger-than-life personalities, the iron-willed Eric von Stroheim still remains one of filmmaking?s most mythical iconoclasts. Even though almost every one of his features was recut or otherwise mangled by the powers that be, his filmography is still more wildly vibrant and emotionally gripping than almost any of his contemporaries. 1928?s The Wedding March finds Fay Wray and von Stroheim as a commoner and an Austrian prince who fall madly in love after meeting by chance. The couple?s path to happiness is (of course) destined to become a deeply pothole-ridden road, however, if their respective arranged fianc? and fianc?e have anything to say about it! Taken out of von Stroheim?s hands and reduced from an epic nearly-five-hour two-parter into a single two-hour film, The Wedding March magically still retains every bit of both the lyrical beauty and biting cultural critique its creator originally intended. Tonight?s presentation is screened from a restored Library of Congress 35mm print, which includes the film?s original Technicolor sequences! As well, the evening starts with the riotous short The Pride of Pikeville, starring our favorite silent cross-eyed clown, Ben Turpin! The Wedding March Dir. Erich von Stroheim, 1928, 35mm, 113 min. (Archival 35mm print courtesy of the Library of Congress Motion Picture Collection) The Pride Of Pikeville Dir. Alfred J. Goulding, 1927, 35mm. (Archival 35mm print courtesy of the Library of Congress Motion Picture Collection) Trailer available here: Website: www.cinefamily.org

I can't find the old thread, but I believe the composers name is Glen Daum. Wish I could provide some additional information.

> {quote:title=JonasEB wrote:}{quote} > It's listed as a "Distinct Certainty" on Criterionforum.org among other known Criterion properties like The Wedding March and I think it was confirmed on one of their facebook replies. Haven't heard much lately but surely Kino would have jumped at it if the rights were still up in the air. It sure is slow going for Criterion and silents. Jonas, The version TCM runs of Victor Seastrom's *THE PHANTOM CARRIAGE* is the same as the Swedish DVD release, which I believe is now out of print. An amazing film. Also distributed in some countries under the title of "*THE STROKE OF MIDNIGHT".* and in still others as *"THE PHANTOM CHARIOT."* Glad to hear that they haven't forgotten about *THE WEDDING MARCH* either. It was supposed to have been out by the end of last year, or so I was told. Jonas, Can't find this information on the forum, do you have a direct link? Thanks.

JonasEB, I wasn't aware that Criterion had any plans to release *THE PHANTOM CARRIAGE?* Where did you hear this? I sure wish that they would get moving on Von Stroheim's *THE WEDDING MARCH* though, which they did license from Paramount in 2007. Speaking of which, this picture is screening in 35 Millimeter at AMPAS on the 2nd. Here is a restoration trailer that The Academy put out promoting the event. I was amazed to hear snippet's from the Carl Davis score used. Apparently they are screening it this way. Amazing considering the Photoplay version has never been broadcast on American Television. http://fan.tcm.com/_The-Wedding-March-1928-Restoration-Trailer/video/1527045/66470.html By the way, a few weeks ago, I got a recording of *THE WEDDING MARCH* with it's original 1928 Movie-Tone scoring track by J. S. Zamecnik. It is so incredibly different from the Davis one that I am used to. And when the gorgeous melody of "*WHAT MY LIPS CAN'T SAY FOR ME"* plays, I just can't help but in-vision Corinne Griffith's *THE GARDEN OF EDEN.* So it is difficult to get past that. I wonder if and when the DVD or Blu-ray of *THE WEDDING MARCH* is finally issued, if either of these scores will be included? Hopefully, both of them. I wish I could get some sort of update on the project.

You mean there are no actual comments about the movie? I think this is Marilyn's best performance in any film she ever made. Her character is so completely different here. I've had this picture on DVD for nearly a decade. Kind of surprised this did not air in Prime-time. For people who don't think that Monroe was much of an actress they apparently have not seen BUS STOP?

Unfortunately, *THE GREAT GATSBY (Paramount, 1926),* Starring Warner Baxter as Jay Gatsby and Lois Wilson as Daisy Buchanan, with Neil Hamilton as Nick Carraway, Georgia Hale as Myrtle Wilson, William Powell as George Wilson, and Hale Hamilton as Tom Buchanan is considered Lost. However, rumor has it that this film does indeed exist in a European Archive. I'm just not sure which one? Supposedly, there are another 75 Silent films in New Zealand that the Library of Congress wants, in addition to the 75 that were shipped back to the States last May. We can only hope this is one of them. It would be wonderful to see a version of the story that was actually made during the 20's. Lois Wilson received high praise for her portrayal of Daisy.

Wow! This is really a long awaited and in demand title isn't it? I'm sure everyone is chomping at the bit to see GRAND PRIX on Blu-Ray! Ho, Hum.

NIGHT FLIGHT? Finally, a trace of something on a regular pressed disc, instead of the same burned on demand stuff again.

This was one of my Sister's favorite movies when she was a kid. I myself have never seen the picture. Only a trailer. This film has eluded me somehow all my life. Released the year I was born. So it must not be seen very often.

*Movie Weekly-February 17th 1923* *Anne Pennington-Movie Weekly-June 9th-1923* *Alice Joyce-Movie Weekly-July 21st 1923* *Rudolph Valentino-Movie Weekly-August 11th 1923* *Movie Weekly September 29th-1923* *Agnes Ayres-Movie Weekly October 6th 1923* *Movie Weekly-November 10th 1923* *Gilda Gray-Movie Weekly-December 22-1923* *Mae Murray-Movie Weekly-December 23rd 1922* *Clara Bow-December 29th 1923 Cover of Movie Weekly*