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*Vilma Banky and Ronald Colman-"Open Window"-From THE NIGHT OF LOVE (1927)*

*Colleen Moore from SO BIG (1924)*

*Sally O' Neil-1927 Portrait*

*William Haines and Anita Page-"Dreams Of A Sailor"*

*Norma Talmadge and Eugene O' Brien in GRAUSTARK (1925)*

*Renee Adoree and John Gilbert from LA BOHEME*

Joanna, Did you ever pick up *LUCREZIA BORGIA?* *Conrad Veidt and Olga Baclanova-The Man Who Laughs*

*Dorothy Gish as Nell Gwen*

THE FRESHMAN (1925) Harold Lloyd, Jobyna Ralston. THE FRESHMAN (1990) Mathew Broderick, Marlon Brando. SALLY (1925) Colleen Moore SALLY (1929) Marilyn Miller. BEAU GESTE (1926) Ronald Colman. BEAU GESTE (1939) Gary Cooper. THE GREAT GATSBY (1926) Warner Baxter THE GREAT GATSBY (1949) Alan Ladd THE GREAT GATSBY (1974) Robert Redford

johnbabe, *Renee Adoree and John Gilbert*

Paramount Silent films made between 1923 and 1929 are even harder to come by because Paramount has retained the copyrights. Better than 95% of surviving titles have never been released on DVD. They seem to have no interest in releasing even the biggest titles such as THE COVERED WAGON, STAGE STRUCK, A KISS FOR CINDERELLA, BARBED WIRE, CHILDREN OF DIVORCE, and WINGS. It's a shame because Paramount has numerous great classics in it's library that few people ever get to see.

Hey, anybody see the extra they just ran? Holy Smokes TOM MIX on TCM! I wish we could get about 7 or 8 of his Silent Fox features in nice prints shown. I'm not sure what the story is on *TIDE OF EMPIRE?* Allot of this may have actually been taken from a foreign release print? Obviously the majority of the titles were Flash cards, and undoubtedly they didn't have the same font's as the originals did. Suggesting that the existing print did not contain English title-cards. And we do know that the final reel is missing. So it's unclear if Josephita ever got to see her Brother again. As I said, I'd love to know how the film once ended. Wouldn't have been as excited about this film, if it were Crawford. Give me Renee Adoree. The only other Silent that TCM runs with Tom Keene or George Duryea is Demille's spectacular *THE GODLESS GIRL.*

TheLoneProspector, Could it be Carl Theodore Dyrer's *MASTER OF THE HOUSE* perhaps? I haven't seen this film in a long time, but that is about all I can think of. The movie was on DVD in Region 2 awhile back. I don't know if it is still in print or not?

It's amazing that Betty Bronson, Mary Brian, and Anita Page all made their movie debuts in the same film. This of course being Herbert Brenon's 1924 Production of *PETER PAN.* Bronson and Brian became celebrated Stars overnight. Anita would have to wait a few more years. Speaking of which, we really need to get *PETER PAN (1924)* on TCM. It's a terrific film and a chance to see Esther Ralston and Anna May Wong as well. And how about Ernest Torrence as Captain Hook? Has TCM ever run *TOL'ABLE DAVID?* Do you know? These are two very big silents that never seem to be shown. At least I haven't seen either on TCM before. I will have had the channel for a full 12 years on May 1st. That's quite awhile. Besides Anita Page, the survival rate of Renee Adoree's films is quite good as well. I've counted at least 8 or 9 more films that Warner's has that have not been shown on TCM. And they have run about 10 or 12 of them. Not sure if *REDEMPTION* or her final film, a talkie I have forgotten the title of with Ramon Novarro have been broadcast before?

And Anita Page's career was derailed by Louie B. Mayer, when she resisted his unwelcome advances. In 1929 and 30 Anita was receiving more fan letters than any other player on the MGM lot. Ahead of Joan, Marion, Garbo, Shearer, anybody. Over 10, 000 per week. Sadly, her Star dimmed very quickly. She went from good roles in high-tier projects, to supporting ones in B pictures pretty fast. Colleen Moore and Richard Barthelmess were both very expensive acquisitions by Warner Brothers following the First National merger. Warner's probably wasn't real interested in either continuing on at their hefty salaries.

Well, I'm certainly not knocking Renee like you are. Nor do I profess to know everything either. In 1928 She Starred opposite John Gilbert in *THE COSSACKS,* and Ramon Novarro in *FORBIDDEN HOURS.* The former is a favorite of mine, while I have yet to see the latter. But hope to someday. Might also add that in the 1928 year ending October issue of Exhibitors Herald, John Gilbert and Renee Adoree were voted as the 5th most popular on-screen couple in the movies. Gilbert and Garbo were not even listed. Also Marion Davies was your highest rated MGM female Star in the EH poll. Ahead of both Shearer and Garbo. Greta rated a disappointing 12th most popular female Star in films. At least according to Exhibitors Herald. In their poll Clara Bow, (three times as many votes as any other Star be it Man or Woman) was a runaway number 1. The Highest rated Male was Lon Chaney. The 2nd highest rated Woman was Colleen Moore, with better than twice as many votes as number 3 Billie Dove. I'm not really a big Crawford fan, so I could kind of care less to be honest. Joan kicked around for years and never really made much of a splash until *OUR DANCING DAUGHTERS.* And even than in my opinion, Anita Page outshines her something terrible in both that film and the follow up *OUR MODERN MAIDENS.* Joan's hair style in the second picture is just plain God-awful looking. Not really sure what *ROSE MARIE* did, but the film is apparently lost today, where *TIDE OF EMPIRE* survives, except for the still missing final reel. I don't see anything strange about Renee having been in *THE MATING CALL.* After all she had made *TIN GODS* at Paramount with Thomas Meighan and Aileen Pringle in 1926. She also Starred in two Universal films in '27 *BACK TO GOD'S COUNTRY,* and *THE MICHIGAN KID* the latter with Conrad Nagel both away from their home studio of MGM.

Just another quick reminder, this very rarely seen Silent Western Starring Renee Adoree and Tom Keene, is airing for the first time on TCM in well over a decade this evening. If you miss the broadcast, it may not be shown again for another 12 years, so be sure to tune in and record this one. My thanks to TCM Programmer Chuck Tabesh for finally getting the picture back on the schedule.

This seldom seen late Silent Western is being shown for the first time in some 12 years! Very good movie, even if the final reel is missing. People don't want to miss out on the broadcast. Who knows if or when, it might be aired again? The picture was released a year ago this month on DVD-R by Warner Archive. George Duryea was Tom Keene's real name. It's interesting that Joan Crawford was scheduled to Star as *"Josephita"* in *TIDE OF EMPIRE,* but instead ended up swapping places with Renee Adoree, who had been scheduled to Star in *ROSE MARIE.* I'm not exactly sure what the story on this is? There are production stills of Joan for *TIDE,* and Renee for *ROSE MARIE,* but for what ever reason they ended up trading assignments. To me it seems like Renee would have been the better choice for *ROSE MARIE* since she was really French. But she is great in *TIDE OF EMPIRE* nevertheless, and I don't think Crawford would have been as good personally. The print of *TIDE* is beautiful for the most part with vintage scoring track, but the final reel is still considered lost. I would like to know how the movie once ended. My Thanks to Chuck Tabesh for his scheduling this picture.

Scottman, Wait I'm sorry, I think I might be getting this film confused with *BLIND HUSBANDS?* I'll check and see. However, Edition Film Museum might have both of them. I'm not sure about that either.

Scottman, The Image version is rather truncated. The most complete print on DVD is from Edition Film Museum in Region 2.

> {quote:title=mateo107 wrote:}{quote} > > This is about the 5th home video release (VHS, DVD, special edition DVD, 50th anniversary DVD, Blu-ray) of the same movie, i wish Paramount would give us something new, like Wings. Actually, make that the 6th Home Video release. You forgot about the Laser-disc format. Which would have been before the first DVD issue. If there were a big sound remake of *WINGS* 30 years later, than the Silent version probably would have been included as a DVD extra. *BEAU GESTE (1926)* is another victim of circumstance. Universal owns the rights to the 1939 sound remake, Paramount the Silent. If Universal had the rights to the Silent as well, than we would have probably had the 1926 Original on DVD with the 1939 version. On the other hand, if Paramount had owned the rights to both, neither would probably have ever made it to DVD. The '39 version has been issued twice. Although I don't think it's nearly as good of a film.

The 1956 version of THE TEN COMMANDMENTS is just about the only classic film currently still airing annually on Network Television. Even THE WIZARD OF OZ no longer is shown anymore on Network TV. GONE WITH THE WIND either. ABC has kept TTC alive, if not for the yearly broadcast for the past 40 some years few people would still care at all about this movie. But it has been strongly ingrained into the public's memory and consciousness down through the decades. A Holiday tradition around Easter time. 98% of other classic films have not been so lucky. To bad most people don't follow the guidelines of the title.

I couldn't agree more. Tell them that we want *WINGS* and to top screwing around re-releasing the same stuff over and over again. *WINGS* should have been out several years ago. Here's a couple clips for you: http://fan.tcm.com/_The-Departure-From-WINGS-1927/video/1077415/66470.html http://fan.tcm.com/_Clara-Bow-Parisian-Folies-Sequence-from-WINGS-1927/video/1104094/66470.html

> {quote:title=filmlover wrote:}{quote} > Gift set: > > Apparently, you have to buy this giant expensive gift set deluxe release in order to get the 1923 version at all? It isn't included in the smaller sets? Is that correct? If so, what a Joke that is! I'm hoping that TCM runs the 1923 film, as they have never shown it before. This kind of surprises me. Also it should come with more than just one score. And why isn't it the Eastman House restoration??? That would have been ideal for Blu-ray, and spectacular looking. Instead plain Monochrome. The original release was not shown in naked Black and White.

traceyk65, Hey! Don't forget about *TIDE OF EMPIRE* the week before.