gagman66

With respect, I'm getting pretty tired of this thread. Can't we talk about *THE HOODLUM* or *POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL?* How about *THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALYPSE* which is on in the morning. I like *THE IRON HORSE,* but it would not have been my first choice among John Ford Silents to be showcased this evening. On the plus side the print is beautiful. So that is a good thing. Would have liked to seen *IT* shown earlier in the evening on Wednesday. Especially, given this hasn't been scheduled in years, and I hope this will still be the Thames/Photoplay version that TCM used to broadcast.

To bad, you are missing out on some great films. It's your loss pal.The marathons are being run because of the MOGULS AND MOVIE STARS festival. Many of the greatest films ever made are Silents. THE BIG PARADE belongs on every top 10 list of the best movies ever made. And makes most movies that are in the top 10 look like garbage. If you haven't seen THE BIG PARADE you don't know what great film-making is all about. What's more today's movies turn my stomach.Sick disgusting and tasteless trash that wraps the human mind.

I don't think that Mary actually ever destroyed anything of her work. She had thought about it and was talked out of the notion by Lillian Gish and some other people.Thank heaven. Colleen Moore did give many of her Silent films to The Museum Of Modern Art, including *FLAMING YOUTH* and it ended up being lost anyway. On a related note, here is a video of Kevin Brownlow's Honorary Oscar exception speech from Saturday evening. http://www.oscars.org/video/watch/ga_2010_18_brownlow.html

Ed, Thanks for posting this here. You beat me to it. Can you place it in the Silents forum as well? I was just going to put the link in one of the threads.

*THE HOODLUM* was terrific! I didn't like it quite as well as *POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL,* but it was still very good. Thank you TCM for the great debut! Hopefully, we will see more Pickford's in the coming year. TCM has yet to premier the newly restored and scored *SPARROWS (1926).* Just re-mastered by the Library of Congress in 2006, with a new score by the talented Jeffrey Mark Silverman. We are still awaiting the long delayed DVD release. TCM used to run the old KIlliam version of this film. But in addition it also would be nice to see debuts of features such as *HEART O' THE HILLS, M'LISS, TROUGH THE BACK DOOR,* and *LITTLE LORD FAUNTLEROY.* All have been on DVD for several years now from Milestone, but have not been shown on TCM. The latter titles are two of my favorite Pickford movies. Both boasting fantastic musical scores.

Wendy, Actually, *THE POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL* was Number 3 on the TCM Movie Data Base yesterday. So allot of people saw the broadcast and really enjoyed the film. Overall, the print was pretty good, it just had allot of artifacts. It was certainly in much better shape than *YANKEE DOODLE IN BERLIN* was. That was really disappointing. Looked about the same as my Grapevine copy. Some of Mary's films are in very good condition. For instance *MY BEST GIRL* looks virtually pristine.

Wendy, I give the print of *THE POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL* about a B-. A nice tinted print with varying degrees of sharpness. Again probably from 16 Millimeter elements though. I'm not sure any 35 Millimeter materials survive. Though still probably much better than the Public Domain version that you have. And Philip Carli's new score was emotionally involving. I loved the film. *THE HOODLUM* should look a little better pictorially speaking I believe. Will soon find out.

ugaarte, Yes, I love the photo with the Finch. I think it is from *DADDY LONG LEGS,* because I seem to remember a sequence like that? I haven't seen it in a number of years though and do not recall for sure? There doesn't seem to be much similarity between the Pickford and Temple films. They are essentially two completely different stories with the same title. I believe Shirley's movie was released in 1939 and was filmed in Technicolor. Interesting about your father. My dad loved his Finch's, and had feeders in both the front and back yards when I was a kid. So many different colors. My Father wasn't born until 1932, but He's been gone now for 13 years, and my Mother passed on 8 years ago this past October. I added several photos to the old HOLLYWOOD REVUE of 1929 Thread that you might not have seen yet.

ugaarte, Hope you got to see *THE POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL* last Wednesday? It was really wonderful. Here is another enchanting photo. *Pickford-"Bird Talk"*

It's great the TCM is finally airing STREET ANGEL just released on Blu-ray in France, but I was also anticipating SEVENTH HEAVEN to at last premier. UNDERWORLD, and THE LAST COMMAND I felt had a pretty good chance of being included too. I sure hope this is the Photoplay Productions edition of WINGS, though it didn't sound to likely a few months ago. With any luck Paramount is providing a fresh transfer if nothing else. Chuck has done his best, but obtaining the rights to the Photoplay version and permission from Paramount to run it have been a huge problem. I'm not sure why? You would think Paramount would want the best print and version to be seen. Apparently, not?

Another Television debut of a long unseen *Mary Pickford* feature from 1919 *THE HOODLUM* is being unveiled this evening on Silent Sundays. As with *THE POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL,* I have never seen this movie before. New orchestral score composed by *Bonnie Ruth Janofsky,* a composer who I am not familiar with. Hope that it is good. The film has been restored by *AMPAS,* and unlike the debut the other night, I believe there should be 35 materials of *THE HOODLUM* to draw from. Here's hoping for a crisp new print. Don't forget to tune in or record the broadcast! This picture has not yet been released on DVD.

Another Television debut of a long unseen *Mary Pickford* feature from 1919 *THE HOODLUM* is being showcased this evening on Silent Sundays. As with *THE POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL,* I have never seen this movie before. New orchestral score composed by *Bonnie Ruth Janofsky,* a composer who I am not familiar with. Hope that it is good. The film has been restored by *AMPAS,* and unlike the debut the other night, I believe there should be 35 materials of *THE HOODLUM* to draw from. Here's hoping for a crisp new print. Don't forget to tune in or record the broadcast! This picture has not yet been released on DVD.

*"Bird Talk"*

Hey Scottman, your recordings of *THE WHITE SISTER* and *THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS* were also missing the last 20 minutes or so. You might want to check those and see if you have complete copies? I managed to get all of *POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL* without any trouble. Send me an E-mail. Thanks. *Little Annie Rooney-"Knock Your Block Off!"*

The ending of *THE COWARD* is rather unsettling. Just like with *TO'LABLE DAVID* it is unclear rather the hero dies at the end. I though this film was terrific. Obviously, it was pieced together from several different surviving prints, with some footage of lesser quality, but overall a poignant and enjoyable picture. Charles Ray gives a heartfelt and emotion packed performance. The whole cast was superb.

*POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL (1917)* is noteworthy and historic for several reasons. But first and far most it is the initial appearance of the "Little Mary" character. Prior to *POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL,* Pickford had always played a Teen or Adult young woman. So the "Little Mary" the childhood roles so heavily associated with her had not really been a part of her career prior to this film. Perhaps this is why it is one of the few Pickford films that has been voted into the National Film Registry at the Library of Congress. Pickford was indeed the greatest actress. She introduced a more subtle and realistic method of Silent film acting. which prior to Mary had been more based on stage acting with it's inherit grande gestures of the 19th century. Mary changed all that performances by other Stars soon became much more nuanced and sophisticated under her strong influence. Though I have well over a dozen of Mary's features, I had never seen *POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL* before this evening. I found the film utterly delightful. Every Pickford feature is special and well worth seeing. Engaging score by the great Philip Carli. It's wonderful to see TCM giving some attention to the woman who truly made Hollywood. Now I can't wait to see the premier of *THE HOODLUM* on Sunday evening! I also enjoyed *THE COWARD* greatly. One can see the how this film clearly helped to inspire Harold Lloyd's *GRANDMA'S BOY,* as well as Buster Keaton's *OUR HOSPITALITY* and *THE GENERAL.* And indeed Charles Ray had been one of H L's favorites, along with Richard Barthelmess. *Poor Little Rich Darling with Curls"* *Pickford With Puppies Galore*

Well, I was sure hoping for a really nice print of *YANKEE DOODLE IN BERLIN,* but obviously one doesn't exist anymore. Still some very funny moments, even though the material was in rough shape with lots of deterioration. The Pickford's will be a different story. *POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL* should be struck from the best 35 Millimeter material. I have not seen the Charles Ray film *THE COWARD.* So that will be new to me too.

Wendy, Well, Marie isn't in the film very much. Not unless more footage has been found. The guys Theda Berra impression is positively hilarious! Apparently, he is spoofing Thea's provocative Dance sequence from *CLEOPATRA.*

Hey, don't forget the TCM premier of the new Milestone version of Mary Pickford's *POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL* is on tonight! A fresh Orchestral score from the renowned Philip Carli. To the best of my knowledge this is a Television premier in any form. In addition, TCM is premiering *THE HOODLUM* later in the month during the AMPAS showcase. I have never seen either film, so I am pretty excited about these broadcast's.Not sure why they are not running the newly restored *SPARROWS* though. Hopefully, it will be shown sometime early next year. The Milestone DVD set with all three is forth-coming, but I don't know how soon. By the way, TCM is also running *YANKEE DOODLE IN BERLIN* this evening. I'm assuming this is a new transfer and another debut? A young Marie Prevost appears. This is quite a funny film.

I'm not sure if it will be the Thames Silents version from the 80's, or the new David Shepard restoration which premiered in Arte Network in 2007? Both of these are much better than the Kino or Image DVD releases. Hey, don't forget the TCM premier of the new Milestone version of Pickford's *POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL* is on tonight! A fresh Orchestral score from the renowned Philip Carli. In addition, TCM is premiering *THE HOODLUM* later in the month during the AMPAS showcase. I have never seen either film, so I am pretty excited about these broadcast's.Nor sure why they are not running the newly restored *SPARROWS* though. Hopefully, it will be shown sometime early next year. By the way, TCM is also running *YANKEE DOODLE IN BERLIN* this evening. I'm assuming this is a new transfer and another debut? A young Marie Prevost appears. This is quite a funny film.

> {quote:title=MyFavoriteFilms wrote:}{quote} > Thanks gagman for explaining Griffy's use of the title. That does make sense. But in a way it's ironic, because the south did not stay a separate nation, except in thought. > > Do you know what my greatest thought was while watching this film??? > > What would ole Griffy do if he lived now and he witnessed Obama becoming president? Those scenes with the black characters in congress being told to put their shoes on was extremely stereotypical...it was the director's argument that they were not qualified for high office. And now we have an African-descended president leading our country. Yeah, and he's doing a bang up job just like all politicians. The color of their skin doesn't matter one bit. They all stink! Sorry for being so curt. But I can't help it. If they aren't corrupt before being elected they are by the end of the first month in office. So what difference does it make who one votes for? The people can't win. As long as you have two idiot parties that are bound to oppose each other on every conceivable issue, you can't get anything significant accomplished.

No, the title THE BIRTH OF NATION refers to the South as an Independent Union of States. It has no reference to the slaves, or freed slaves at all. Griffith wasn't bold enough to stick with the title THE KLANSMAN. Here is the simple truth of the matter, the wealthy Southerner's were a very lazy, pampered, and extremely cocky people in that day, who basically made the black slaves do all their work for them. Or most of it anyway. Once that was taken away from them many couldn't handle it. So they formed the Klan. I find it hard to sympathize with these folks. A shameful mark on American history all around. But don't forget the Klan didn't limit hatred to just African American's people, but rather to Catholic's and Irish settlers as well, who had the same color skin. Not to mention Yankee's. There credo is basically, "We are better than you!" so get out of our way!" In other words, Jerks!

Lynn, Opinion of the series thus far has definitely been rather mixed. Read this thread from Nitrateville. http://nitrateville.com/viewtopic.php?t=7630&sid=dd56a9fed2684cfd9d53625333d32e1b The prevailing feeling is that they should have expanded each episode to 90 minutes. An hour just doesn't cut it. Chapter 3 in particular promises to be a real hodgepodge, and allot of it will probably be about the coming of sound. Not much on the art of the Silent film at it's greatest during the 20's at all.

While the series is good, it really could have benefited substantially from the involvement of Kevin Brownlow and Patrick Stanbury. At least for the first three chapters. I'm gratified that they have spent three chapters in the Silent era, but the clips are so brief, and not always the best quality either.

Lo, *THE BIRTH OF A NATION* is the Photoplay version after-all ! I can't wait to see Mary Pickford's *POOR LITTLE RICH GIRL* in a couple nights. Don't forget about that. A TCM Premier, and the brand new restoration from the LOC and Milestone. I have never seen the movie, and it isn't on DVD yet either.