PrinceSaliano
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> I'm wondering how many bluenoses caught VENUS IN FURS on TCM last month, and did they write frenzied letters to the programming department?
> In reference to DeMille, his entertaining excesses cannot compare to the sex and violence in the Bible.
So am I the only one who saw VENUS IN FURS?
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I found A SOUTHERN YANKEE pretty entertaining. Frankly, I'm surprised at the harsh reaction to him.
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> My one gripe with Bette's day was only one film before 1939, that being the great MARKED WOMAN. None of her pre-code or early 30's films at all. Some of those sprinkled in would have made the day much better in my opinion.
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> I like Gene Hackman, but don't feel he should be featured on a channel like TCM. His films are found all over the place. Where else do you see Marion Davies, Thelma Todd, or Wheeler and Woolsey?
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> I am enjoying Sterling Hayden today.
No Davis pre-Codes? Unforgivable. And as far as Gene Hackman goes, it gave me a chance to catch up on Marion Davies and Joe E. Brown.
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During his intro to TROUBLE IN PARADISE, Robert Osborne stated that the film was virtually unseen for over 30 years because it violated the Code. Sheer lunacy, reminiscent of the Taliban.
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It was MGM after all. That studio made the least interesting films during the 40s.
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THE MAN WHO RECLAIMED HIS HEAD was not tied up legally, only the remake and that seems to have been resolved since STRANGE CONFESSION is now available on DVD.
TMWRHH is essential. It stars Claude Rains, Joan Bennett and Lionel Atwill. It is an anti-war drama, not a horror film as many presume (the title is symbolic).
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Missing his Universal pics...THE INVISIBLE MAN; THE MAN WHO RECLAIMED HIS READ; MYSTERY OF EDWIN DROOD; THE WOLF MAN; PHANTOM OF THE OPERA.
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What happened to BABY FACE? It was replaced with THE GREEN BERETS!
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This subject comes up every year...people complaining that their holiday favorites aren't being shown on TCM. It's as predictable as turkey on Thanksgiving.
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I'm wondering how many bluenoses caught VENUS IN FURS on TCM last month, and did they write frenzied letters to the programming department?
In reference to DeMille, his entertaining excesses cannot compare to the sex and violence in the Bible.
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> thanks to the motion picture code and hays, we have mangled and ruined pics such as MataHari (when it was reissued in 1936), and Two Faced Woman, plus many others, what hypocrits these code people were!
Thanks for a voice of reason, johnbabe. Some seem to actually think filmmakers like Victor Fleming and Michael Curtiz would have produced pornography if not for the Code. Ninnies. What the Code did was prevent producers, directors and screenwriters from dealing with adult themes in a serious manner.
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> I already wrote previously I considered most precodes tame by comparison to today. So I'll leave it up to you, Prince, to obsess about sex scenes, and to change the thread title of this forum to "****", the last word of which is a filthy curse word, which is something I would never do.
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> To each his / her own.
I don't buy the argument that the Code is responsible for no explicit sex in GWTW or CASABLANCA. That makes no sense at all.
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Hopkins is an excellent choice.
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A day of Elvis movies is like a day of hitting yourself in the head with a hammer.
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Classic is a tricky word.
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American culture is obsessed with violence and sex...violence is way to resolve conflict and sex is dirty. Until we get passed that, what you described on Showtime is what will make money (another American obsession).
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I don't recall any explicit sex scenes in pre-Code films. Can you give us some examples?
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Irene Dunne and Mae Clarke made filthy movies?
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I'm waiting for the Broadway musical.
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Film attendance was falling because of the Depression. However, there were noisy right-wing nut jobs then as there are today. Acquiescing to them was a mistake. You're naive to think that talented directors and screenwriters were happy with the draconian restrictions imposed on them. Don't you think William Wellman and Alfred Hitchcock resented their inability to explore adult themes and situations more realistically? Classic films were not made because of the Code but despite it. The repressive 1950s gave birth to the permissive 1960s.
Of course we were a more conservative society back then. But abortion, prostitution, drug abuse, homosexuality, mixed marriages, infidelity and crude language did exist. And husbands and wives did sleep together. The stork didn't deliver all those baby boomers. William Haines was gay but couldn't play a gay character. Marion Davies was Hearst's mistress. Prohibition was a complete failure. And the Beatles didn't introduce drugs to America.
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The choice of Hackman was a monumental dud.
BILLIE DOVE EXPERTS
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How many of Billie Dove's silents survive? Some of her talkies are lost too, no?