Swithin

This may have already been said, so apologies, but to get back to the talented Eleanor Parker, I've often thought, when people endlessly argue about whether Bette Davis or Gloria Swanson should have won the 1950 Best Actress Oscar (instead of Judy Holiday), that the winner should really have been Eleanor Parker for Caged, with Holiday a close second. Parker's role of Marie Allen, the young innocent who is hardened by prison, is one of the screen's great performances.

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Since I switched from IE8 to IE 10, I have had similar problems. I have to used plain text. If I want to make something bold, I can't use the B icon; I have to enter brackets and b, etc. I can't post pictures from this computer. I do have an older computer with IE8 on which I can still do all the things I used to be able to do on this computer, but I can no longer do them on my main computer. I have just downloaded *Google Chrome* and can do the things I used to be able to do again, on my main computer. So the issue for me must have had to do with IE10. Edited by: Swithin on Mar 29, 2013 6:25 PM

*Richard Griffiths* has died in Coventry, England at the age of 65. Although he has made many movies (Harry Potter, Withnail and I), I will remember him as a great stage actor. I believe the first time I saw him was in the Royal Shakespeare Company's production of A Midsummer Night's Dream, in which he played Bottom (Patrick Stewart was Oberon). The last time I saw him on stage was in The History Boys. R.I.P.

When Ladies Meet ?

Lavendar, I think we need another clue. I was (in jest) going to guess TWELVE O'CLOCK HIGH, if the ladies were drinking, that is! I've gone through every socialite title I can think of!

Speaking of KK, one never hears of The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea. I saw it when it came out, it's riveting, and disturbing.

I would not accept the veracity of that story unless several independent authentications are found.

Lady Lou (Ha! Two L's!) -- Mae West in She Done Him Wrong

My cable box has DVR capabilities. Though I assume we are still in the minority, maybe it is assumed that an increasing number of people have or will soon have that feature, hence it doesn't matter what time the movies are shown.

I didn't say Groton was the most prestigious -- although it certainly is in the top few. I equated it with Eton, which in England is actually one of many schools considered top -- with Winchester, Harrow, etc. Like Eton, Groton has one of the most impressive list of alumni, particularly in public service, as well as other old Yankees -- Roosevelts, from TR's son and brother to FDR and his son; Sumner Wells, the Payne Whitney family; Hugh, James, and Louis Auchincloss, Newbold Morris, McGeorge Bundy, Francis Biddle, Dean Acheson, C. Douglas Dillon, etc.

Chick Clark -- Owen Moore in She Done Him Wrong

Hi Lavender, you are correct. The school the elder Peabody founded was Groton. (Btw, Kyra Sedgwick is his great-granddaughter, I believe).

Another hint: this man (whose name is the first part of the title) officiated at FDR and Eleanor's wedding. His son was governor, senator; important MA family, and not the Lodges, Cabots, or Lowells!

Well Fred was correct. I was just reacting with delight, as I do when anyone mentions that crazy and wonderful movie, "the hottest thing in old Klopstokia!"

The great and crazy Million Dollar Legs (1932), which itself has an homage to One Hour with You. Here's the reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4PnLFoJuMk

An homage which I thought very apt was near the end of the film Sideways. As I recall, the two guys are in a hotel room; the tv is on. We hear the film that's being shown, barely glimpse it. It's The Grapes of Wrath. What could be more appropriate?

Time for a hint: Boston Brahmin, founder of a famous boys (now co-ed) prep school, meets a mythical creature.

I've seen two productions of Shakespeare's Pericles, one at the Royal Shakespeare Company, the other at the National Theatre (London). Both superb, but they dealt with the incest between Antiochus and his daughter differently. Antiochus daughter doesn't even have a name, in order to emphasize the incest, she's just called "Antiochus' daughter". In the first production, the relationship was totally consensual, which is how it is written in the play. In the second, directed brilliantly by Phyllida Lloyd, there was a hint -- because of her demeanor, not in the language -- that the daughter is being abused. In fact, the first production was more terrifying, because frank incest (enjoyed by both parties) is more horrifying in some ways than abuse, for better or worse. Shakespeare makes the point that, if you do something wrong and keep repeating the act over and over, it becomes normal for you. Creepy stuff, but there is truth in it. I read the Times of India, which has a great iPad app. There are so many stories of abuse incest in that paper.

Interesting! It's been a very very long time since I've seen the film. There is also the brother/sister incest -- very much consensual -- in Angels and Insects (1995).

You can't have an incest thread without a reference to one of incest's greatest dramas, *Tis Pity She's a ****,* by John Ford (not the film director). Here's the friar's remarks to poor Annabella, who has been fooling around with her brother Giovanni: {font:'Times New Roman', 'serif'}Friar: {font} {font:'Times New Roman', 'serif'}There stand these wretched things, Who have dream’d out whole years in lawless sheets, And secret incests, cursing one another: Then you will wish each kiss your brother gave, Had been a dagger’s point; then you shall hear How he will cry, “Oh, would my wicked sister Had first been damn’d, when she did yield to lust!”— Of course a big difference between Chinatown and some of the incests depicted in Jacobean drama is that in Chinatown, it's abuse; in the Jacobean drama, it was generally consensual!{font}

The riddle given by King Antiochus to Pericles to solve in Shakespeare late play, *Pericles, Prince of Tyre*, comes to mind: "I am no viper, yet I feed On mother's flesh which did me breed. I sought a husband, in which labour I found that kindness in a father: He's father, son, and husband mild; I mother, wife, and yet his child. How they may be, and yet in two.." If Pericles gets it wrong, he loses his head. He got it right, but the King, angry that his incest with his daughter has been found out, wants to kill Pericles anyway, so Pericles flees. It's a fascinating, little known play (at least partly) by the Bard.

The founder of America's Eton meets a mythical creature.

Beautiful voice, famous Carmen. I remember her from my childhood, on some early television shows. She was born in the Bronx. At least two other Bronx-born opera divas are still with us: Regina Resnik and Roberta Peters.Here she is in perhaps her most famous aria:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCYHALudt1k

Boy on a Dolphin