Bill_McCrary

The only example I can think of that might fit your criteria is Buddy Clark's dubbing of William Holden in Father Was a Bachelor? Right. It was shown yesterday morning. I hadn't bothered to IMDB-it, so didn't realize it was in production WAY before Sunset Boulevard. That explains a LOT! Buddy died in early 1949, in a plane crash - travelling between the two coasts for radio shows (and movies, I guess) in NYC and Hollywood; two years after Grace Moore died on tour in Stockholm in a plane that never quite got airborne.

the legendary, and seldom seen, slightly disreputable Murder at the Vanities(1934)? I may (or may not) have gotten it to VHS years ago; but recently I made a swap with someone and it was one of the very good DVDs he sent me. WOW! The leering at the girls' bottoms (as they ascend a backstage ladder), a main production number titled "Marihuana!" And it goes on...... I got the laserdisc box of about 8 Jolson movies (MGM and WB) years ago, plus Hallelujah, I'm a Bum on VHS two years ago on eBay. Finally got every one of the Mae West movies, in one form or another (not tv copies, except for Myra) about two years ago. Now, I can't find "Sextette"; it's here, I just can't find it purloined in everything. I've had a spot just the right length waiting on my MB disc, ready to boost and sharpen it (is there a really good copy anywhere?) - but the tape is MIA. Drat!

March usually sucks because of all the same Oscar films.... Except that now it's February and the first 3 (two in leap year!) days of March, since the Oscars are earlier than they used to be.

Now Mr. flub, please tell us about Lisa Kirk. She created the role of Bianca in Cole Porter's Kiss Me Kate on Broadway. What's her connection to the movie version of Gypsy? I know I'm not Mr Flub, but.... Didn't Lisa do large portions of Rosalind Russell's singing in at least one version of Gypsy? AMC (the late, great, lamented one...) showed the "alternate" version a couple of times, with either all or most of RR singing her own role. There was something about "Little Lamb," too; Natalie recorded it, but did Marni get into the actual (usual) soundtrack? That's been close to 10 years ago, and I'm relying on memory only. India Adams, anyone? Joan Crawford in Torch Song - story in whichever volume of "That's Entertainment." And now - my own, fueled by discussion in another thread. And unusual, to say the least. What deceased singer dubbed for an actor who achieved superstardom, for just a minute or so, in a movie (shown very recently) made the same year as one of his biggest hits but little known today (I never heard of it till now). I was listening and, not really expecting the actor to sing, started getting goosepimples at the voice. Who IS that? I know the voice almost as well as my own (probably 50 or so records - mostly 78s), but.... Just as it hit me, it must have hit the person who beat me to the post. Quite an accomplishment, getting a dead man to dub for you! (And not in an opera film) Bill

The Stork Club?

Relax - things run in cycles. Final three days of Oscars, then a fine schedule, lots of detective series films (continuing a beginning in January), musicals, horror, a little for everybody....

Is it my imagination or does TCM hardly ever play The Jazz Singer? Mostly imagination. I don't think a year goes by without it. These things run in cycles. With all the Columbia and Paramount (among others) that are making their TCM debuts, some of the "usuals" will probably be given a rest. Please, TCM, consider showing this again at a reasonable hour (NOT 4am) along with Wonder Bar (1934) and Hallelujah, I'm a Bum (1933). Wonder Bar's finale, more than anything else, usually keeps it a late-night one - not one for the children to emulate; Hallelujah is about the only Jolon one I don't think TCM has shown. I have it on commercial VHS (and I think it may be in DVD now); it's unusual, everything rhyming, Rodgers-Hart score, Harry Langdon.....

One place where an incredible job of restoration has been done is for the box sets that WB has done of the Looney Tunes cartoons.... Yes, but...... Some of them have been "oversharpened," to the point where they don't look like movies anymore, rather video. They certainly have snapped the color to max, and one or two that looked (almost?) b/w on their most recent showings (the BBunny baseball one where he is up against the "bully," has to chase the ball all over NYC to catch it and get it back to the park to have the fellow "out") now have color back like I saw them (and taped) back in the '80s. So far, a LARGE percentage of the ones on Laserdisc have not been in the new boxes -- good for those of us who invested in the lasers. There was nothing on those after 1948-49, and the new boxes have lots of the newer ones.

If it was on after Buck Privates it was Let's Do Things. Thanks for this. I only got about 1/2 of it that night on my hard-drive machine; I must have switched over from something else I was watching. Thought I had only missed a couple of minutes, but missed almost 15 minutes (I know now). Their first short, 3 reels instead of 2. Had guessed (from a list) at a title, but was way off. Now I know, at least (and can wait till the next round of Pitts shorts - sometime in the 40-year lease period!). BTW, that was 2 days before MGMWBRKO started his wonderful service (and about 2 weeks before I discovered it - darn!).

By the way it was singer Buddy Clark who dubbed the crooning for Holden in "Father Is a Bachelor". It was driving me "fool" hearing him (as WH) singing "Love's Old Sweet Song" -- "I KNOW that voice! Who, who...." And just before I saw your post it had come to me - but I'm thinking - 1951? Buddy Clark died in a plane crash in '48, didn't he? Travelling coast to coast for radio broadcasts, etc. (Knew about it from an old LP cover, but checked again just now.) Obviously they had some (unused?) soundtracks. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0163739/ Message was edited by: Bill_McCrary because "soundtrack" DOES have a "d." (And travelling has 2 L's, despite what spellcheck and others say these days!)

just my damn luck. the trailer on the TCM EOO site doesnt work, lol http://www.tcm.com/2006/edgeofoutside/multimedia.jsp That one plays for me, but there are no lyrics, just narration of what's to come. On the other hand I can't get the "On Dangerous Ground" one to play, so.... I don't think it was for a specific movie. I think it was for the month of maverick filmmakers (or whatever it was called). It may have survived on one disc I recorded where I forgot(slept through) to turn it off and it went too far for me to use the rest of the disc. If I find it, I'll get back. But try these (I didn't open them): MUSE LYRICS - Time Is Running Out www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/muse/timeisrunningout.html ----- YouTube - Muse - Time Is Running Out Muse - 14 - Time Is Running Out - Palacio de los Deportes ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIcr_KWiPwA null

Good News(1930), and Chasing Rainbows (1930) both have a color finale, but sadly, the color elements did not survive, so TCM has not shown either since 1995. I'm pretty certain they've been shown a good deal more recently than that. I may have GN, at least, straight to DVD. I know (without checking, though) that both have been shown since I got my dish in Sept '96. Both are completely b/w these days, though. LOTS of movies (musicals, mostly) were at least part-Technicolor (two-strip) in the early sound era. McFarland publishers has a wonderfully informative book about early musicals (up to about 1933 - nicely dovetails with pre-code movies!). For sepia - one fantastic (in several senses) movie is "Bad Man," with Lionel Barrymore and Wallace Beery (and Ronald Reagan and.......). Wonderful, deep sepia throughout; you've NEVER seen a Lionel Barrymore like THIS LB!

I was watching tmc... I'm guessing you meant TCM... Black-and-white? Color? More about the dancer? Can you remember more closely the date you were watching? What time of day (time zone?)? They're not that many with split-screen, so if you can give just a little more help, like those things.....

Almost always shows around Fathers' Day. (Surprise!)

How about "Melody for Two," for which Warren wrote "September in the Rain," sung most memorably by James Melton. Is that ever shown? You bet'cha! Check the monthly schedules (not just the current one); do a CTRL+F and type in names (movies, performers) you're looking for. (Careful with spelling!) Some of us routinely download and print these, but we're also learning that if we print them too far in advance we need to double-check, since changes get made (and not just when someone dies). This morning was a good example; it was right (almost) in the "Now Playing" magazine, but not three months ago when I printed it out. Bill

But Gone with the Wind (seems to me) has always had less color saturation (i.e. less vivid color) than "Showboat", and GWTW color seems more natural. And I remember a discussion "somewhere" several years ago (maybe it was on NPR) about one of the newest restorations (to film) of GWTW - something to the effect that Selznick wanted a very particular look to the film. Not the "Technicolor Standard," but darker, etc. Supposedly (I think I remember hearing), they got out "his" print to make a match; possibly this was even after having printed it up and the heirs saying something like, "No, No, NO!!!" Anybody remember that? Am I close? Speaking of "Show Boat" and its history on video (not in the theater): What we see now of that one and MMIStL (and Camelot, too) is light-years ahead of early VHS issues from what one presumes were the best prints MGM/UA could provide at the time for transfer! ' My "Wizard" is from 5 or so years ago; don't know if the newest one out is a new transfer (sounds like) or just repackaging. Comment? Bill

Elegance - Astaire. Everyday guy - Kelly. Together (like "Ziegfeld Follies") - nitro!

Seeing the wind blow Kong's fur is simply awesome. What we view as one of the "coolest" things today bothered Willis O'Brien (sp?) no end. The model had to be handled and at least some part of it moved for each frame of film. All that handling made impressions on its fur, and when the film was projected there was a rippling/"wind blowing" effect. He was quite upset (today it would have been digitally removed; well, actually it would have been a CGI), but there was just nothing to be done about it back then. Now, maybe I missed something (I have never really "studied" the film), but the fur is quite obvious. The info above was from at least one documentary about its making; plus, Ray Harryhausen may have mentioned it in one of his talks. If there's a particular "wind blowing" sequence, I just don't recall it right now. Another case of something wonderful coming from something that just couldn't be helped!

The original Alien. SPOILER ALERT!!!!!************%%%%%%%%%!!!!!!!!!! If you've never seen the movie! Most of us know about and are prepared for it now, but sitting in that theater (with a bunch of friends, late-20s or so..... When that "thing" burst forth - I'm glad I was in full command of my bodily functions! NEVER has anything stayed with me like that - and, yes, The Exorcist profoundly "got to" me - but not like that "thing" - the alien - and, then, of course all that came afterwards. Watching the sequels, one is prepared, and it's just gross, but...... Whew!

There was a scene where black actors were performing a dance scene on stage. There were 3 woman singing on a balcony. In my original post I thought you were describing the short that came right afterwards (I didn't watch/DVD "Irene" this time around). I was wrong, of course. But about the short - about Stephen Foster, Melodies and Memories (or similar title). Beautiful color from 1935, made by the same fellow who did the "Travel Talks." No comment as to its political correctness [and I'd thought THAT was the part that brought up DD], but beautiful early color work. The "Shorts" forum further down the page has a thread, "Upcoming Shorts," provided as a service (it is NOT part of his job, just a labor of love for us) by an employee of TCM, naming himself MGMWBRKO - it is hugely helpful in allowing us to know what shorts are coming when. Check that out and be amazed! A new list should be up in the next two days, I'd think. Message was edited by Bill: because I was off-track with what you were describing! Bill_McCrary

Top Hat DVD has a bonus cartoon titled, "Page Miss Glory," Some places, including the Laserdisc set of Looney Tunes, Vol I, call this one "Miss Glory." One of the 'toons sites (at least) has it listed that way. On the title card the "Page" is in MUCH smaller typeface than the other two words - all in glorious "moderne" lettering. It's easy to miss, as did apparently the people who put the set together. But, yes, the real title is the same as the movie.

...only a few piano bars to accompany her. I'd love to have accompanied her to a few piano bars! (Sorry, I just had to......) My DVD is at my mother's, or I would check the number she's singing.

I'd have to go with the following changes (see below) the first set is their list. The second is my revamp. Decent list(s), but where are "Flying Down to Rio" and "Dames"????? And almost all the rest of the similar early WB musicals? No Nelson/Jeanette? "Chacun a son gout," I guess. (Sorry about the missing French diacritical markings!) Bill

But "Who Will Buy This Wonderful Feeling" gets heavy handed, dull and cliche, I keep thinking I was still a child when this movie came out; but, given its year, I had to have been out of high school. The "Who Will Buy" had me (and a lot of others in the theater) just stunned. Starting with that incredible vocal by Mark Lester, the beauties just kept piling on. The different fruit and flower sellers were incredibly affecting on my sensibilities. On the huge screen, I just couldn't get enough. For years they kept issuing it (and TCM was showing it) with the mono soundtrack. FINALLY it got the proper remastering! Yes, I can hear some vocal edits I never noticed before, but..... Woo-woo!!!, as Hugh Herbert (and Andy Hardy) would say... And before all that, Harry Secombe in "Boy for Sale." I knew the musical from the Broadway show album (and loved it), but the movie impressed me beyond belief. Now, the (original) soundtrack LP was good, but it couldn't quite duplicate the thrill(s) of the movie. Several bonuses on the DVD, too. Bill

Got one, Bill? Nope - feel free, anyone. And I'm ashamed of myself to admit - I COMPLETELY forgot about M.A.S.H. when I started searching! War? Hyphenated-Americans? Oh, duh! Well, it was a late night....