MissGoddess

GM: "Double Vision" We get two Lana's for the price of one! Who could ask for anything more. I have to say, with all these threads devoted to beautiful dolls, the guys on this board are spoiled rotten. CM: I like Lana always but I agree her youth was her peak for beauty---to me she looks like a fluffy white rabbit or a clawless kitten. No one quite like her, though Marilyn would come along and take that concept a step further. I was watching her in *Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde* the other night and I think the idea for her and Ingrid to switch roles (If that was true) was brilliant. Ingrid had the acting ability to handle the more demanding part but Lana had the kind of soft innocence that made the final scenes more harrowing. And Lana always brought out a sweet, lusty protectiveness in Tracy. I hope to have more pictures soon.

I'll leave you, my lovelies, with one more image. Can you tell me what's wrong with it? (Nothing is what it seems, in Dark City)

Wow, you guys have to check out this artist: *Guy Budziak* . He does woodcuts with Film Noir images! Here's his site ( http://www.filmnoirwoodcuts.com/artpage.html ) and below are some samples of his work. William Conrad, *The Killers* Marlene, in *Touch of Evil* Dana Andrews, in *Where The Sidewalk Ends* Mitchum and Jane Greer, *Out of the Past*

ChiO---the only "flaw" if you can call it that, which I notice in *Woman on the Beach* is the kind of anti-climactic confrontation between Ryan and Charles Bickford at sea. It seemed to be over before it began. However, I Iove it still.

Well now, you've given me the surprise of the day, Frank darlin'. 4:28 PM EST is early for you, what a treat. I won't post them all here but will provide this link to a webpage that contains some cool screencaps from Robert Ryan's pugilistic noir, The Set-Up: http://wesclark.com/ubn/the_set_up.html

Ryan, with *The Set-Up* director, Robert Wise, and crew.

Taking a hard look at himself, in *The Set-Up*

Another clinch with Barbara Stanwyck from *Clash By Night* Seeking comfort, Ryan shows a momentary weakness with actress Shelly Winters in *Odds Against Tomorrow* With the wonderful Myrna Loy in one of his most charismatic roles, as the super cynical newspaper editor in *Lonleyhearts*

Robert Ryan and Joan Bennett from *Woman on the Beach* It has its flaws, but I believe this movie provides a marvelous showcase for Ryan's exquisite ability to show the troubled humanity struggling underneath the tough facade.

Normandie---thank you so much for your contribution of the still from *Brute Force* . Who knew sweet little Hume Cronyn could be such a tough hombre? I haven't seen *Desert Fury* since I don't remember when and like you, I blanked out Kirk Douglas' part so he may have just been turning in a supporting role. What I remember are Lancaster and Mary Astor (and the beautiful colors). I hope it gets some kind of release or airing because it's been M.I.A. for a long time now. Chio---Ryan keeps me coming on and coming on. I am working up an idea for a thread devoted to him, but I'm not sure if I'll put it here or in Favorites.

i don't remember the exact dollar values, but the most I paid for and think that it was worth every penny has been for these two Criterion releases: My Man Godfrey and Young Mr. Lincoln. They are both beautifully presented and almost worthy of being considered collector's items. I know they cost more than some box sets I've purchased. Will the Ford at Fox set be worth every scandalous penny it costs? Now that is a question I will have to ponder after December 4th. I'm sorry--you did say five, right? Three more, then: *The John Wayne/John Ford Box Set, Gone With The Wind Special Edition and All That Heaven Allows* (Criterion). Message was edited by: MissGoddess

>>>It's a fun tale --- don't know that I really buy it, but when's the last time you even THOUGHT of Alice Brady? <<< I think of her quite often because she's one of my favorite actresses. I just adore her comedic characters.

I am building up my collection of dvds which I watch quite often, but sometimes it's fun to watch the same movie on TCM because it's like it's "live" and being enjoyed by other fans. P.S. Regarding VHS, I still use it to record because I don't yet have a dvd recorder, but I also will purchase a vhs copy of a rare OOP movie. I feel it's better to have it on tape than not at all, if it's a rare gem. Message was edited by: MissGoddess

OK, fellow noir aficianados, bear with me while I indulge myself in some Ryanesque picture postings---as in Robert Ryanesque. He is *mi amoroso* in Dark City, maybe even more so than Robert Mitchum (gasp!). Ken, simmer down, I'll post more dames later---and at least he was of Irish descent. In the Dark City, only Lawrence Tierney was tougher---though never half so smart and almost never sympatico. Ryan is mean as can be to Sam Levene in *Crossfire* Not even Big Bad Bob Mitchum can convince Ryan he's wrong, in *Crossfire* Ryan takes a beating but wins his self-respect, in *The Set-Up* Ryan shows his softer side to Marilyn....or does he? *Clash by Night* Ryan manhandles Stanwyck...and boy does she like it (so would I!)

Meeeeow. Why do you think *To Catch a Thief* is my favorite Hitchcock movie? Cary Grant: "I can just read the headlines now..." Grace Kelly: "The Cat has a new kitten. When do we start?"

Thank you, Moira, for that article. I've been reading a couple of similar articles lately about movie downloading and I think it's the trend of the future. I especially am happy if, as that paragraph you selected say, this will open the door to more obscure (pre-codes???) titles.

Oooh, thanks GM for finding those lovely color pictures of our little Lana! The middle one in furs is one of my all time favorites. Frank---I'm glad Lana tempted you in here for a peek-a-boo.

I didn't see that picture of Greer before where she's seated, in profile. I like that one alot, Theresa.

Yes, Grace was nothing compared to Katy Jurado's character, poor thing. Maybe that's why it was so easy for Will Kane to wait for Frank Miller instead of going on his honeymoon.

OK, in case any are interested, here are a couple more articles on that New Zealand play that's popped up, called "My Name is Gary Cooper". One of them includes a mention about the girl who played Gary's daughter in *Return to Paradise* . (Warning: the first article contains a rather surprising picture) http://www.nzherald.co.nz/category/story.cfm?c_id=18&objectid=10464693 http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/1318241/1365263

[Angie] , I don't see how you'll fail to love Random Harvest---it's a magical movie, one of those perfect ones that practically defines "classic movie". [Kim] Frank is too modest---he really does know more about noir than I so he's the best guide---I just know what I like (and I like *Laura* so if you have that one it's a good place to start). [John] You peeked in and then we lost you! Was it this Twilight Zone board that sucked you away? Hopefully you'll find your way back to us; maybe we should leave a trail of breadcrumbs.... [Dan] I love *Spellbound* ! It has a beautiful score by Miklos Rosza and it's really very romantic. Gregory Peck is very young and vulnerable and the story keeps you guessing. I'm sure you won't be disappointed. BTW, all this week AMC is playing Hitchcock movies in the evenings. It's a good way to sample his movies if any are unfamiliar with them, though be warned there are annoying commercial breaks.

>>>It wasn't what you said (although I did read what you said), it was the 8:00 P.M. appearance. It was like Grace Kelly dropped in for a surprise visit.<<< Now I really do believe you have both a wife and a girlfriend, with expert compliments like that. >>>So do you think I like Kane because the characters are unhappy? I hope not. Believe it or not, I attempt to avoid films that I find to be too depressing. I don't find Kane to be depressing, though. I think it's a story of power and greed and the loss of one's way. It's a story that continues to play out today, over and over and over.<<< No, I don't think that at all, I was just generalizing about the rather scary trend for people to equate morbid and confusing with greatness in almost any kind of art. You I believe are among those who appreciate the film's genuine merits, and as I said, I can understand why it's so highly regarded, even if I don't feel that way myself. And for my money, Touch of Evil deals with those topics of greed and power and losing one's way more effectively. But at least it gives me two very positive characters to root for, in Heston's Mexican detective (he's good, can you believe it? Now that is acting) and Janet Leigh as his wife. I won't say anything more about 2001:A Space Odyssey or I'll get into trouble. Back to Coop----Frank, you teased us about giving us your thoughts on the Coop/Kelly pairing in *High Noon* . Don't hold out any longer, my inner Pandora is dying of curiosity.

>>>Thanks for the "chicken soup." I was actually feeling much better yesterday. For, you see, my Monday sickness was due to a severe case of Miss G withdrawal. I take pills for the weekend, but I don't have a thing to fight off Mondays.<<< Oh, flatterer! But it's nice to be missed! I am starting to explore pictures of the supporting or lesser known noir actors and movies; that way I don't run dry (yet).