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> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}*I don't like it.*
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> That's a very good thing!
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Why?! Soames is a sad, sad, character. He's like so many successful, educated men, actually. His possessions...and everything is a possession...hold more life in them than he does.
> That's interesting. So she's kind of an ideal for you.
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I wouldn't say ideal but I admire her style and her ease and natural smile. She's confident without being boringly edgy and angry. She's a lot like Miss Kitty, come to think of it.
> Linda Lavin could be on the irritating side, that's for sure. But I mostly like her.
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I liked the show a lot. It's one of those shows that was such a hit but you never see anymore. I remember liking One Day at a Time, too, mostly because of Valerie Bertinelli, I thought she was so pretty and I wanted hair like hers...I still do!
> *The movies I like him a lot in are Compulsion and* *Sweet Smell of Success. And I love him in that Twilight Zone episode with Vera Miles. He was so sweet to her.*
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> Those are some good ones!
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And The Long Gray Line.
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> You need to move to a television town!
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I wish I could move to 148 Bonny Meadow Road!
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> No, no, no. *That Forsyte Woman*.
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No, I don't like how his character is at the end, but that's the story.
> I didn't know about any of that. I just didn't feel any of the danger and desperation after the start of the film. The outset did feature this.
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I was okay in suspense until he met with the town "boss".
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He sounds like you!>
Except that I am living in a haven of vice.
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> So you like his turn at the end?
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Who's? Errol's in Cry Wolf? I didn't see much change. I prefer my Flynn roguish and laughing and fun, or mocking and sad as in some of his later characters, including *The Sun Also Rises*, a movie I like more than you.
> *They don't bother me as long as what goes on entertains, and I liked it. I think it must have been somewhat daring for the time.*
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> How so?
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My history is very hazy about this period,but I believe Kefauver was prominently behind blowing the lid off of big league organized crime to the public on television in the early fifties and this movie of course takes from those issues. It seems he really knew how to use the media, at least for some apparently good aims for a change. Business and politics and even the police are depicted as very corrupt...not in the big city where you're used to seeing it, but as I said, in a small town.
I'm reminded of Barney's (Don Knotts) hysterical reactions whenever some petty crime was committed in Mayberry. He's swear the town was going to the dogs and that it was going to turn into a haven of vice.
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> Wow! That's very complex. Lots of characteristics that I don't like with the exception of repressed.
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I don't like any of them.
> *I agree, she looks great. She's also beautiful in Rope of Sand.*
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> That's one I haven't seen. The cast is great.
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It's a sort of homage to *Casablanca*.
> I was very disappointed in the film. The best part of the film was the very beginning. That was good. After that, the film starts to slowly go downhill. I don't like "PSA" kind of films.
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They don't bother me as long as what goes on entertains, and I liked it. I think it must have been somewhat daring for the time.
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Ahhhhhh, Bogie. It was interesting to see him so crazed.>
He's almost as nutty in *The Caine Mutiny*, but about strawberries, not dames.
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> And you say guys only like women who are mean!
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I don't mean I found Flynn's "Soames" to be attractive, just fascinating. The idea of Errol Flynn is so fixed in people's minds, the devil-may-care rogue, and here is the opposite: repressed, moralistic, materialistic and a prig. Yet somewhere inside he shows there is a small glimpse of humanity.
> When Corinne shows up, the film definitely picked up steam with me. She looks fantastic!
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I agree, she looks great. She's also beautiful in *Rope of Sand*.
You liked nothing about *Captive City* or was it the ending that ruined it? I really enjoyed it in spite of a rather disappointing finale.
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> I just haven't watched television shows since the early-90s. Many of my favorites are from my youth. Many are male-dominated shows because of that. All I watch today is sports and classic film.
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The only modern shows I've watched are "The Nanny", "Frasier", and "Inspector Morse". I've seen parts of others but nothing I cared for all that much.
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> It's no surprise that The Dick Van Dyke Show tops your charts. Three's Company is that show for me. One thing that did surprise me is that you like Jerry more than Buddy.
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When I was little I liked Buddy better, but Jerry really breaks me up. I like his energy.
> Police Woman has really made an impact on you! I would have never guessed that. I was a wee one when that show was on and I do remember being turned on by Angie.
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I've enjoyed Angie and Earl Holliman's rapport.
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> I'm very surprised to see we share quite a few favorites with the ladies. It's great to see "Flo" on your list. Alice was a fun show. I liked "Dingbat." "Vera!" I really wanted to include Mel (Vic Tayback) on my list.
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I haven't seen the show since I was small, but I remember Flo very much.
> Lots of western characters on your male list. That doesn't surprise me. Who did surprise me was Martin Milner. I never knew you liked him.
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I think he's adorable. I had a crush on Officer Malloy when I was really little.
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> The Dukes of Hazzard is my "Mayberry."
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Andy Griffith Show. I can't stand Mayberry R.F.D. And I only like the AGS with Don Knotts (the black and white episodes). The first season is remarkable. I think Griffith was one of the most talented men in show business, and so unique. His "Sheriff Andy" reminds me a lot of a young Will Rogers.
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Oh wow! Love the caps from A Personal Journey...and Jackie, I had a couple of books as "guides" too and like Marty, I had to look at them in the Library only and like him, I was tempted to take some of the pictures out. I don't remember if I did...maybe not, I was boringly ethical at that tender age.
I now wish I had that dvd. Was it expensive, Frank?
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> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}*Eew! You are!*
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Don't you dare try to clean me up!>
I don't attempt the impossible.
> *The Hammonds are like the Clantons and Cleggs.*
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> Minus the father. Elsa is suffocated by her father while the Hammonds run wild without any kind of parental guidance. Again, the extremes are shown.
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That's a good point. I was thinking that both families suffer because of the lack of a mother/wife. Interesting that Hester was 40 when she died. How did she die? I forget. Did he kill her?
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> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}*It is. I wish it were a "theme" for more than just westerns.*
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> I can't help it that I'm a Hammond!
Eew! You are!
The Hammonds are like the Clantons and Cleggs.
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> It's annoying! Even more so than me!
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I wouldn't go that far.
> And that's a big reason why I felt the film ends on a disappointing note. But, for some reason, this is a time where it didn't bother me much. I really enjoyed the ride up until that point. I just loved the entire mood and the stars delivered.
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You loved it?? That's interesting. I have my own predilictions for movies I know are not first rate yet I prefer them to some that are.
> That's a great question. I'm not sure if I really know the answer. I suppose it was something to do with mental health.
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At least with Bogie we got to see what kind of "art" he was interested in.
> A Greer Garson film?! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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Ha! No worries, I'm not recommending you watch it. I saw it once and that was enough. Flynn kept me interested, his character is a puzzle. so much to despise about him, yet....
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> *I like The Whole Town's Talking ! I also like two of the Will Rogers flicks.*
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> *Alright.*
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> You don't sound convinced!
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I'm not, much.
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> The entire Sturges vibe rather fascinated me. I'm not sure if Jackie has seen the film or not, but I think she'd enjoy it. Corinne Calvet is excellent.
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I'm not sure she would. I prefer Corinne in *The Far Country*, but I figured if this movie hit with you at all it was going to be because of her. She's very minxy.
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> That's an astute observation. I would have never picked that up. The film certainly doesn't feel "Fordian."
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Many agree. I'm not familiar enough with it to say. I think he wanted to do it, but then again it was a Zanuck assignment.
I thought this was interesting, about When Willie Comes Marching Home:
Those back home can only make believe, and so paranoia steadily increases. The elder Kluggs (William Demarest) assumes the Germans would go to the trouble of spying on his kitchen. And the gruff MPs who show up clubbing and pounding their way into his home resemble the Nazis seen earlier. That scary suggestion culminates Ford?s satire...Ford presents the platitude that today we name ?Middle America,? how those who live within this platitude are uncritically conditioned by it, how innocent they are, and how dangerous. Despite humor, the portrait is distinctly melancholic and would be overtly cynical, were the characters less affectionately drawn.
I also think it's interesting that the name Cluggs sounds so much like Cleggs (the sadistic father and sons in Wagon Master)
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> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}*That is one of the great lines of western film. Love it.*
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> It's all about self-respect. That's definitely a strong westerns theme.
It is. I wish it were a "theme" for more than just westerns.
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That is one of the great lines of western film. Love it.
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*Rey*,
I really like your list of suggested films. I've seen many of them, and a few are unknown to me. Thank you for your mini synopses, it helps a lot with the unfamiliar titles. One thing I might venture a different opinion upon is Heston in *Will Penny*. I think it's a great film for non-Heston fans. It's almost impossible to dislike him or this movie. Sure, Douglas or Burt could have played it, or any of the great western stars in an earlier era, but somehow I'm glad Heston did it. He's very good.
*Frank*,
I agree with Rey that the 007 films should be in your sights when you consider more 1960s films. Your love of "superheroes" ought to endear them, as well as the beautiful women. *From Russia With Love* and *Goldfinger*, on Rey's list, both feature blondes and Connery at his most comfortable not to mention wonderful villains. Happily, they've finally released Connery's films together in packages, so if you don't get the complete collection, you can at least procure them in some semblance of order.
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> No, but everyone's name is being shown in the middle of their post.
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You're right! I didn't notice it before.
> Barbara starred in two other "woman in danger" films during this period: *The Two Mrs. Carrolls* and *Sorry, Wrong Number*. I suppose *Jeopardy* could also be classified as such a film.
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I thought about *The Two Mrs Carrolls* and of *Witness to Murder*.
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> And that's exactly what I loved about the film. I loved all the distrust. It really kept me guessing as to who was on the level and what was going to happen next.
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I still feel unsure whether he did all he did out of love for his neice and nephew or to save the family (and the senator) from disgrace. And what kind of scientist was he? They were kind of vague about that.
> Interestingly enough, I've only seen two of his films now, with the other being *The Sun Also Rises*. I have liked him in both. I prefer him in *Cry Wolf*, though.
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His character in *Cry Wolf* reminds me a lot of his character in *That Forsythe Woman*.
> I like *The Whole Town's Talking* ! I also like two of the Will Rogers flicks.
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Alright.
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> *I'm not an expert on what makes Sturges unique, so I can't really say whether or not I agree about the comparison.*
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> The idea of a goofball getting caught up in something way bigger than he reminded me a lot of Sturges. Plus the entire community rallying around his cause and then starting to turn on him is very "Sturges." Also the presence of William Demarest as the father was a big factor.
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Demarest sends a big signal there. You're not the only one who compared this to Sturges, though I forget who else did. It was some critic or biographer. The most "Fordian" thing about it I've gleaned is that it is about people's perceptions, especially their perceptions of "heroes".
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Your ranking of *Brief Encounter* after *Cry Wolf* doesn't bode well for Jackie's favorite. Because in no way is CW in the same league. So what sank it for you? You can answer this when you respond to Jackie's eloquent post, I don't mean to interrupt.
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> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}Whoever is in change of the design and functionality of the board is doing a bang-up job.
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Are you having trouble posting?
> The first number in parentheses is how you guessed I'd like the film and the second is how you liked it.
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Thank you for the explanation.
> Franchot Tone plays Gary's "thorn in the side" comrade. He's sensational. The film is somewhat similar to *Wee Willie Winkie* and a little similar to the father/son story in *Rio Grande*. It's about the son of a colonel (Richard Cromwell) joining the base despite his father's (Guy Standing) disapproval. The son wishes to do right by his father but his father is afraid to show any feeling towards his son. That part of the story is okay. What I really liked was the pairing of Coop and Tone, as both ended up being "bigger brothers" to the colonel's son. This is a " 'brothers' in arms" kind of film (ala *Beau Geste* ) that I liked. For me, Tone is the best part, but I also enjoyed Coop.
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Boy, I have no recollection of any of that. I'll try to rewatch it soon. Jackie will be delighted you liked Tone so much.
> I enjoyed them both. I thought they proved to be great adversaries. It seems like the mid-to-late-40s featured many of these "don't go in that room!" films with women in the lead. I know of *Jane Eyre*, *Dragonwyck*, *Secret Beyond the Door*, *The Red House*, and *The Spiral Staircase*. Even *Notorious* features this.
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I really enjoy those movies, too especially as they are done at this time. The emphasis is often on setting a mood, and that is something I respond to.
I thought Barbara was especially pretty in this movie, too. What was interesting to me was that just as each of them was unsure of the motives of the other, we are kind of unsure too, at least to begin with in Barbara's case. Her explanation of her marriage was rather unconventional.
You're right that they are well matched. Even the characters are both brainy types, it's like they are excited by each other's grey matter. One of the things I like about Flynn is he could play intelligent characters as well as men of action.
> I've liked some Ford comedies! It felt like Ford was playing Preston Sturges. At first I was annoyed by it, but then I started to enjoy it and I ultimately came to like it.
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Liar! You don't like any of this comedies! I'm not an expert on what makes Sturges unique, so I can't really say whether or not I agree about the comparison.
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I don't even remember what the young guy looked like at all, and I saw this movie twice this year. But that's my memory more than on him.
Each time I watch this movie it does get better for me.
I like the moment when Joel (was it Joel?) excuses himself to read the telegram privately...with his glasses. There's definitely older generation vs. younger commentary in many scenes, like the saloon scene when Joel and Randolph are with the kid. Will he measure up, etc.
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I'll have to disagree about Hartley's skills as an actress, though she's personable enough. I don't know why she was in so many westerns on TV, too.
Reading a brief bio at IMDb.com about Marriette, it seems she may have had a similar background to her character in real life, with a controlling patriarch.
I seem to remember from a Peckinpah documentary that his parents were very religious...maybe he was commenting on that via Armstrong's character. I too thought his relationship with Marriette unhealthy. There's a similar episode of "Gunsmoke" with Katherine Ross and George Kennedy. In each case the men are widowers or their wife left them, and they seemed to project all their anger and frustration on their daughters. Funny how good women seldom make much apparent impact on men but let a woman hurt them or die on them and they never recover or forgive them for it.
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> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}*I didn't think you were such a fan of "Jennifer Hart".*
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> Oh, yes. I still have a bit of crush on her. She's very affectionate.
My brother got me the first season of the show for my birthday. It had long been on my list.>
She's a lovely woman, I should have had her on my list, too. And I would have included Lionel Stander as "Max" as well. I wouldn't mind having season one on DVD, too. I actually visited a resort in Palm Springs that's featured in one of the episodes (I'm not sure what season). I thought it looked so cool so I looked it up and booked a trip there a few years ago. It was very "old Hollywood" in feel.
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> *And where is "Rowdy"?*
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> He just missed my list. I barely had 40 names for the women but I had about 60 for the men.
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I know, I had to think hard on the ladies after ten, whereas I could still keep going with the men (Kojak, Jim Rockford, etc).
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> {quote:title=FrankGrimes wrote:}{quote}It looks like we think completely differently about these films! That's rare for us.
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> Here is how I liked them:
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> *1*. Ride the High Country (3/8)
> *2*. The Lives of a Bengal Lancer (10/9)
> *3*. Cry Wolf (5/5)
> *4*. Brief Encounter (1/7)
> *5.* Soldier of Fortune (9/1)
> *6*. Flying Leathernecks (4/10)
> *7*. When Willie Comes Marching Home (11/11)
> *8*. The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (8/3)
> *9*. The Captive City (6/4)
> *10*. The Killer That Stalked New York (2/6)
> *11*. Sherlock Holmes and the Voice of Terror (7/2)
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> The closest we come to liking something is *Cry Wolf*. And, yet again, I like a Ford film more than you! And I like Coop way more than you!
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I don't understand those parentheses. Anything that has to do with math has to be explained as if to a two year old child because my brain doesn't compute.
--I thought you hated Bengal Lancer or is this a list of movies you hated in general? I remember liking it better when I first saw it long ago. This time I felt it dragged on too long but I loved Brian Donlevy, he's one of the best villains I've ever seen.-- I just realized we're talking about two different movies. I am thinking of *Beau Geste*. I haven't seen *Lives of a Bengal Lancer* recently enough to even rank it, so you can just remove it from my list altogether. What did you like about it so much? Who's in it, besides Gary? See, it's a complete blank for me.
Conversely, I enjoyed *Cry Wolf* more after seeing it again than I did the first couple of times. Errol is bit too muted and the twinkle in his eye is missing, but Barbara is great and it's a fun mystery. Light.
As for *When Willie Comes Marching Home*, I've only seen it once and I'm not a fan of Dan Dailey or service comedies in general. I'm surprised you didn't bottom list it since Ford + Comedy usually sinks for you.
Edited by: MissGoddess on Oct 27, 2011 11:28 AM
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The one thing that seems to prevent me from rating *Ride the High Country* higher is Marriette and her story. I would like to watch it again to see if there's a purpose (beyond plot) for them. Maybe Peckinpah was trying to say something about the generations? I have no idea. I get the feeling he hadn't much use for "kids", since most of his movies seem to focus on mature characters, ones with life experience. I get the impression in movies like this, young people serve as foils, emphasizing the competence of the experienced, older characters.
Or maybe the studio that financed the picture wanted to guarantee some younger audience participation, like so many pictures in the 1960s, Insisting on scripts that accomodated young actors, etc.
I like the way Scott and McCrea play off of one another, it's one of the most interesting screen partnerships in westerns and makes me wish they'd done another movie together, perhaps sooner.
Edited by: MissGoddess on Oct 27, 2011 8:41 AM
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The one thing that seems to prevent me from rating *Ride the High Country* higher is Marriette and her story. I would like to watch it again to see if there's a purpose (beyond plot) for them. Maybe Peckinpah was trying to say something about the generations? I have no idea. I get the feeling he hadn't much use for "kids", since most of his movies seem to focus on mature characters, ones with life experience. I get the impression in movies like this, young people serve as foils, emphasizing the competence of the experienced, older characters.
Or maybe the studio that financed the picture wanted to guarantee some younger audience participation, like so many pictures in the 1960s, Insisting on scripts that accomodated young actors, etc.
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I didn't think you were such a fan of "Jennifer Hart". And where is "Rowdy"?
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> You're mixing your drinks, Champoozy! I was saying it's good that you don't like The Simpsons !
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Ha! I goofed that up. Well, I still say I'm right about Soames.