MissGoddess
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The romantic in me used to insist that Scarlett and Rhett did get back together but now I am leaning to the other camp. I sometimes even wish Rhett found someone like Melanie who appreciated him and gave him peace.
Lol! How "real" these characters are to us (me, anyway)!
Miss G
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Cooper and Bogart in anything together would have been glorious, and a story about the O.K. Corral would have been that much better. Too bad! (Though nothing beats My Darling Clementine, for my money!)
It's kind of like the dream combination John Huston had originally in mind for The Man Who Would be King: Bogart and Clark Gable.
Miss G
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> I can
> tell you it's about a man who takes a job as a mall
> Santa who lacks certain social graces. Being drunk
> and cussing at kids and customers are his gift. I
> heard there's something similar coming from him next.
Oh, that's funny. You know, there was actually an "Alfred Hitchcock Presents" episode called "Santa and the 10th Avenue Kid" which is the same premise. Barry Fitzgerald plays a con on parole and the job his parole officer gets him on Christmas Eve is to be the store santa in a Gimbells/Macy's but he hates kids and is just generally disreputable. It has a nice twist and Barry is delightful in it. I wonder if they based Bad Santa on it?
Miss G
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I haven't read the Arce book---if you really like it and recommend it, I might get a copy online.
I "googled" images of Brad and you are right---he's a cutie.
I think baseball probably has the best looking atheletes of any of the big sports in America. Maybe because I am always paying attention to mens' hands and arms and they usually have large, well developed ones. I had a boyfriend once who very nearly became a pro ball player but his family wanted him in their business. But he never lost his muscle tone (plays lots of golf) and he was cute. How nice you get to chat with them! And it's always a pleasure to read about people who practice faithfulness to their spouses, especially if they are in the way of lots of temptations. Ironically, a man faithful to his wife can become even more attractive in the eyes of women.
Miss G
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I must admit Errol and Tyrone Power's movies are my exception to the "swashie" genre. However, I thought Errol was also excellent in his westerns, like They Died with Their Boots On and even more I like Dodge City (beautiful photography). But then, I just love westerns period.
It just occurred to me that a movie with Errol and Gary would have been interesting---maybe a western. It might have been even better than Vera Cruz, which pits the similarly tempered Lancaster against laconic Coop.
Miss G
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The cast is great all around and it's a genuinely charming movie. I'm really looking forward to it.
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I'm not sure I understand about the comparison, because I haven't seen Bad Santa. Would his style in it remind me of Cooper?
As to your P.S.---I am always happy to discover an exception!
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I vaguely remember seeing it but would like to again (love RR and Burl) so I'll be happy to request it, too.
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No, I don't have any premium channels. I even had to pay extra to get The Fox Movie Channel, in a batch with several other networks I never watch. TW is very greedy and it is a disappointment, but I really am spoiled. I have Netflix and TCM and should be dern well grateful!
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I like the documentary with Clint, too.
Have you seen The Insider? That and A Beautiful Mind are superb Crowe performances. However, I must admit to preferring Gladiator, L.A. Confidential and Cinderella Man above all the others, because they are more heroic (if flawed) roles he plays, as opposed to the "character" parts which display the depth of his talents.
I'm not a fan of sword-and-sandal movies per se, either, and the violence in Gladiator is unwatchable. I always FF those scenes.
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Is that book the one by Jeffrey Meyers? I read that one, too. Some of the reviews on Amazon.com were scathing. It's the only bio on him I've read (other than Maria's) but I do think a really solid analysis of his acting and career is needed.
Those stories you shared a funny.
I'm releived, I guess is the best word, over-all that he married "Rocky". She at least seemed to be devoted to him and her family and so they shared some basic values. That Lupe Velez was a rather vulgar and screwed-up woman. Even Errol Flynn thought she was pretty crazy, and he was pretty tolerant of those things, as you might guess. 
After he became a star (or even before) I wonder if he ever even once had to actually make an obvious move on a woman because they all chased him.
Miss G
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>>>I'd have to choose the forgotten song from Rodgers and Hammerstein's South Pacific, a hymn to regret, "This Nearly Was Mine". <<<
Hi Moira,
South Pacific is not my favorite musical (because of Mitzi Gaynor mostly---I like her, just not in this role) but the songs---especially "This Nearly Was Mine" are wonderful. I agree it is not nearly remembered so well as "Some Enchanted Evening" or the "Happy Happy" song---I wonder if it's because it isn't "set up" as well. It seems somewhat "buried" in the movie and when Brazzi presents it I am always surprised by it, enjoy it immensely, and then it's gone suddenly. I think it deserved a little bit more build-up and lingering and would be better remembered for it. Wonderful, wonderful tune and you've made me curious to listen to the Mitchell and Pinza versions.
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Thanks, to both Arkadin and Cinemascope---I have to start making use of my Library card!
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It's on Tonight???? Yippee! I have been wanting to get this movie recorded forever. It's my favorite Heston film---he's actually adorable in it and if no one believes that then see this movie.
Thanks, Mrsl!!
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> Overall - Fort Apache - Comedy, Drama, Romance,
> Music, and for it's portrayal of " Anglo - Saxon
> Superiority "
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> ken123
Ha ha ha!! Ken, you started my day with a laugh and I thank you!!
P.S. Wouldn't Jack Ford bridle at "Anglo-Saxon"---leaving out the Celts?
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Hi!
You're certainly right about Crowe's temper, he has to learn to control it. But, alas, none of the last couple of generations of men seem to know anything about being a gentleman. *sigh*
If you get The Fox Movie Channel, I think they air It Happens Every Spring fairly regularly.
I will think about what you wrote next time I see Gary "pitch" in Meet John Doe. I'd rather watch him "pitch woo" anyway. Sorry, a very bad pun indeed!
I read an interview with Billy Bob Thornton which made me livid. He said "Gary Cooper is always Gary Cooper" and went on to brag that you don't who he (BBT) is when he's playing a role because he disappears into the character. I don't want to be too hard on him because a lot of people have understandably made the mistake of thinking that the "aw shucks", bumbling but heroic and shy-around-girls man on the screen is exactly the same man in reality. After all, I'm sure studio publicists wanted it that way. If their audience ever found out he was quite the devil with the women they might have lost them.
But isn't it interesting that the myth still survives, and the sad part about it is just that it denigrates his skills as an actor. He must have been an amazing actor to convince the world he didn't know how to talk about art, the world---or to a woman.
So, in conclusion, I would urge BBT to do a little research about his "colleague" before he judges him as being an inferior actor to himself.
Now I'm off my soapbox! lol!
Miss G
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> I thought Orson was sexy!
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Me too!!
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>>>it's just that, unlike Scarlett, who obviously never learned anything from her parents, Melanie's parents taught her to share her toys. <<<<
Scarlett did learn the importance of family and keeping it together no matter what---everyone else could go to you-know-where but nobody was going to touch Tara or her people. That's a pretty strong lesson to learn, which few ever do.
Miss G
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> True, subtlety in most things is an under-rated and
> unappreciated quality these days, and integrity is
> often considered a weakness, if not down-right
> foolishness. People are so afraid of others mistaking
> "kindness for weakness"-the ultimate sin nowadays is
> to be considered weak, not to be considered unkind.
I think you're both right about that, Cinemascope and Melanie.
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She was kind of
> plebeian in that sense-the book makes it more clear,
> the difference between Gerald O'Hara, and Scarlett,
> and the southern aristocrats, such as her mother
> Ellen, and the Hamiltons and Wilkses.
Yes, one of the books strongest points is its deep understanding of human nature and the strictness of the social structure and hierarchy of the times. I love the way the O'Hara's called one another "Mr." and "Mrs." in public. Old fashioned grace notes like that are what makes a movie like this (and the movies of John Ford, too) very special.
Scarlett was definitely her father's daughter---and represented the new world in many ways. A grasping, tough yet vital world.
Miss G
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> I love the music in this movie! I especially
> love the harp and organ in the intermission music,
> and the old songs-I love "Beautiful Dreamer" and
> "Swanee River". The music is so gentle and
> evocative.
In a career full of brilliance, I think GWTW is by far Max Steiner's finest work. His cues for the characters, the interludes, the incorporation of folk tunes----and that rousing main theme combine to make a genuine film score masterpiece. Can you tell I just love everthing about this movie?
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> One of my most favorite "debates" re: GWTW is the
> question of Melanie Hamilton Wilkes. So many people
> dismiss her as being weak compared to Scarlett, and I
> love to argue that she had a deep and quiet courage,
> a consistent unyielding inner strength, that Scarlett
> lacked. It always rather surprises me that people can
> watch this movie (or read the book) and come away
> with the impression that Melanie was weak. Her style
> of courage was subtlety, not bravado, but it was
> certainly present.
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Oh I couldn't agree more! The dynamics of the two women are very central to the story and in many ways, like Mammy and her mother before her, Scarlett needed Melanie in her life to ground her. People like Scarlett are often deeply attracted to people who are their opposite in temperment and values, who represent what they'd like to be and Melanie was almost a carbon copy of Scarlett's mother. I could go on and on about this but I think you know what I mean.
Miss G
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Hi Daddysprimadonna----I agree 100% This is my favorite movie and always has been, always will be, most likely. If anything has changed over all the years of viewing it, it is simply that my appreciation has grown---especially of the performance of Clark Gable. He won the place in my heart as the Best Actor by far that year. That's Rhett Butler up there, not Clark Gable and that's acting.
Miss G
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Great post, Lzcutter!
I think baseball probably has the best looking atheletes of any of the big sports in America. Maybe because I am always paying attention to mens' hands and arms and they usually have large, well developed ones. I had a boyfriend once who very nearly became a pro ball player but his family wanted him in their business. But he never lost his muscle tone (plays lots of golf) and he was 
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I've never seen Tozzi---I will try to "google" his picture. Brazzi is my favorite player in the movie, that's for sure. He's excellent. I didn't know he sang---that's nice to know. At least the studio let him sing part of it---they often completely dubbed even the best of singers. I don't mind dubbing, so long as the song is put over convincingly.
Miss G